what a great way to remind everyone of how much clarett was paid.
fair point that
what a great way to remind everyone of how much clarett was paid.
It just says they're honoring the NCAA Championship team. It doesn't include any information about whether or not Tressel will attend.
FWIW, Columbus radio reported that Gene Smith extended the offer to 'everyone' affiliated with the title team, without specifically naming Tressel or Clarrett. It sounds like Tressel will be invited and will choose whether to be there at his own discresion.
I'd imagine Tressel will get invited. Smith and Gee are probably still afraid he might fire them.
You know, I always liked Jim Tressel. He was a worthy adversary and got a raw deal.
No, I'm serious. He was, objectively, a great coach.
The same one that says that, objectively, Bernie Madoff was a good businessman?
I don't like people who write books about their own morality while they actively cheat at what they are doing.
But not a lot of people get the chance to retire after lying to their bosses and failing to meet regulatory standards in their job description. He got a very cushy deal compared to what 99% of workers would end up with.
Paterno's name shouldn't be used cheaply. Outside of Dave Bliss at Baylor, there has never been another college coach worthy of comparison to that crime and might never be again.
Tressel was a huckster, giving his false image the hard sell. That's not worthy of someone who made fellow humans' blood run cold.
Urban, Les, and Mack Brown (and a few others) exposed some pretty glaring blemishes on his greatness as a coach. I'm sticking with "good enough to win the B1G most years."
Dominating the Big Ten for a decade isn't enough? What about Bo?
Well, Tressel won 6 times, but the B1G was a powerhouse when Bo was coaching, it was down the years Tressel was winning. Who was realistically going to challenge him the last 3-5 years, Wisconsin? Sparty? RR?
Tressel beat Michigan 8 times, not 6. He beat them 6 in a row from 2004-2010.
You meant six in a row from 2004-2009.
I mean won the big ten 6 times. Point being that Ohio wasn't a national superpower. When they went to bowl games they were routinely dominated by SEC teams, they'd look like world beaters at times, then USC would absolutely crush them over and over and over again. Texas always had his number, too. He also had some inexplicable losses to teams he should've soundly beaten. At Iowa and at Purdue in 04 were embarrassing, home to Illinois in 07 was inexplicable, they dropped a turd at home to Penn State in 08, at Purdue in 09 was telling as well, and Wisconsin in 2010 shouldn't have happened either, but Tressel couldn't beat any of the "great" teams, and would regularly fall flat on the road to average teams, even at the height of his career.
Hate it to break it to you, but you could say almost the same thing about Bo
Well, Tressel won 6 times, but the B1G was a powerhouse when Bo was coaching
Umm....what? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard The Big Ten was not a powerhouse when Bo took over, hence "Big 2 and Little 8". It wasn't until 1978 that a team besides Michigan or Ohio State won the conference.
You can attribute some of that non-variety to Bo's dominance (like Tressel's), but really it comes down to the fact that the Big Ten wasn't good during either one's tenure
cheater and hypocrite...yes..he was very good at that.
"and got a raw deal" Ummmm..... What???
I think he's a good coach, but his firing was justified. I think the same about Steve Fisher.
I hate to say but I consider Tressel a great coach, ....but he is still a cheating scum-bag douche and I don't know how anyone can like him unless you're from Ohio or a Sparty fan that loved living through Tressel's success against Michigan when Michigan was beating MSU for 6 straight seasons.
This is all the past, though. OSU is going to honor their national championship team after 10 years like any team would and I wouldn't blame OSU and Tressel himself for wanting the head coach of the team that year to be in attendance.
He got a raw deal only in the sense that Gene Smith should have been let go along with him.
Not with a five year show cause sanction on his head.
Where are his seats? He probably paid at lot for them on Stubhub!
I hope he's there to watch us bury them at their dedication game. I hope he makes another speech about how they're going to kick our asses, too. Pile it on, as much as you can, before we push them around in their own house. Bring it.
Jim Tressel had the responsibility to guide the young men who took the field for Ohio. He betrayed that responsibility, and let down those kids and their parents who trusted him. With all due respect, he should never walk on that field of honor again.
Tressel is in now way banned from campus. He's a retired employee with all the benefits that entails (gym use, parking, whatever).
You might be thinking of Pryor, who can't use any of the athletic department facilities for a period of time.
Good, he'll be there to cry like a bitch along with the other idiots from ohio when Michigan humiliates ohio in front of their fans.
Tressell will be there. Just like Steve Fisher will be here if we ever raise the banners for the Fab 5 teams.
Is he going to dot the i. That would be funny.
And he used to drop a jolly rancher in his zima
Zima's are SO 1998
Apparently any coach that isn't associated with Michigan that has had success was all do to them cheating. Please stop being Michigan homers. Nick Saban would win national tiles at Michigan as well. He's a great leader. He didnt win at LSU and Bama because he cheats. Jim Tressel was a great leader and that's why he won so many games. Did they even have compliance back in the 60's, 70's, and even the 80's? I've heard the game is cleaner now than it has ever been before. It's not absurd to think that some players under Bo might have received a 100 dollar handshake, or other extra benefits. How would he know? They didn't have huge compliance departments or the resources then to keep up with it. Does that make it morally right?
"Club President Laura Ambro said Thursday that the club has so far received four confirmations for the Nov. 27 event, from Fox, who will host the event, Krenzel, running back Maurice Clarett and Tressel." - from the Cleveland Plain-Dealer article
Ostensibly, he will be at the banquet which will celebrate the 2002 team. If he's at the game, then Mike Doss did at least point out that the important thing is to support the current team under Urban Meyer. On the field, his achievements are noted and off the field, his shortcomings are also noted, and indeed, his coaching tenure ended quite justifiably with his essential canning via resignation. That being said, if Ohio wants to honor its championship team from a decade ago, then I personally wouldn't have a problem with Tressel being a part of it regardless of my personal opinion of the man - I don't think he's restricted from being on campus, and as he has since taken another position at another school, in a way, it doesn't much matter now.
I will also be at the game. That being said, I know the board agrees to wear maize, go blue, since maize shows up better on tv. I think blue will show up better in the sea of red tho. Suggestions?
Coming from a M fan in killumbus, hatred for the work he did against Michigan and the B1G aside, Tress was a great individual in this community and did a lot of great things for the city and the state. I truly believe he was/is a good person with a high moral character, but made a poor decision just like we all do sometimes. I know that I might get shelled for this, it is just my personal experience.
That being said, I cannot wait to be at the game and watch the suckeyes get spanked in the shoe after their little anniversary celebration.
away from his work, I truly believe his "poor decision" was made a long time ago. He decided cheating was okay. Perhaps, like some of the members here, he didn't have much respect for the NCAA and their rules. But that decision led to more poor decisions, leaving a trail of lies and ethical lapses. Undoubtably he is a rather complex individual. Rather than his preachy, hypocritical books, a true tell-all autobiography would be a fascinating read.