Looks like someone is trying to up his punishment before he gets hammered by the NCAA.
this guy evidently hired to work for AD
Looks like someone is trying to up his punishment before he gets hammered by the NCAA.
It is too bad that he couldn't find the appropriate others to partner with to address this unfortunate circumstance.......... or whatever.
This is not one of those nits that a rival tries to blow up bigger than it is. He has finally exposed his BS to the outside. The fact this has even happens means those guys are sweating it down in C-Bus and that makes me very, very happy since they are not focusing on the other stuff related to football.
Part of me would be sad if Tressel gets pulled - only because I want us to finally beat him while he's coaching.
I don't care if he stays or goes.
He's grasping at straws
Maybe, but man- I really hate the idea of him going out at 9-1 against us. That will never not piss me off. Saying "but you cheated," I get it (in hypothetical world where he gets hit with 10.1 infraction and is ousted). . . but, well, they can say that about when we beat them in the NCAA tourney during Fab 5 year 1, and, frankly, it doesn't. . . matter, at least in affecting my thoughts as a Michigan fan about it and doesn't diminish my feeling of satisfaction in thinking about it. I don't want to be on the other side of that. I hate the fact that he's dominated. Regardless of the infractions, it's still a bitter pill, and I'd like more cracks at him as a program.
It would feel so much better if we could just whip his ass even when he's cheating, and then he gets fired.
"Chasing the buckeyes back to their hole,
fighting them at their own game,
trophies for tattoos, such stupid crap,
coaches and players are gonna get slaaaaaamed!
Run to the hills! Run for your lives!"
I tried a stunt like this with my parents when I was around 12, and it didnt make my punishment any less severe. Sorry buddy, not gonna work.
I think this is even more pathetic than the original preposterous news conference. Damage control done the worst way possible. So now you admit it's a bigger deal? But you've made it seem like it's the COACH who's asked for the penalty like some kind of penance? Who runs the OSU Athletic Department? Don't answer.
If the NCAA buys this B.S. move from Tressel, it would be a travesty. That guy is such a slimeball.
I think he's done at OSU.Seriously.
He should be. That crap shouldn't fly at a major state university.
the university has no discipline for its coaches and when your AD says i hope he doesnt fire me there needs to be some changes. I hope the NCAA hammers them with sanctions for the slap in the face they gave them with the 2 game suspension. They need to fire him to save the face of their university. but i like how this is all going to unfold, hoke takes over, they find out tressel lied, and he is now likely to get fired
I'd love for Tressel and his sanctimony to remain. The important thing is that this program (and its 375 self-admitted infractions over the last 10 years) be banned from bowls for at least the next two years, and also be stripped of five scholarships, for symmetry's sake.
I hope Sweatervest remains as the patron/martyr saint of TSDS. Let him preside over the ruins of what he has wrought. I like Dan Berstein's "quote" from Tressel's god-like book:
"I’m reminded of another quote, from another venal, bespectacled liar.“I believe in two things: discipline and the Bible. Here you’ll receive both. Put your trust in the Lord; your ass belongs to me. Welcome to Shawshank.”' So said Warden Samuel Norton. That’s who Jim Tressel is – the worst kind of bible-banging fraud, enriching himself under a guise of piety and Christianity while he cheats at every stop.
Just as long as OSU doesn't crawl through a river of shit and come out clean on the other side.
Click your heels together three times Jimmy. You aren't in Kansas anymore. A one year suspension to him and a three year probation to the program with a loss of bowl games and scholarships would be a good start. But then again this is the NCAA, and they may settle for a hug from Tressel and a promise not to get caught again.
Hey, remember this guy? He and his AD were once "untouchable". Curiously, I don't hear Tressel mentioned for any NFL openings.
Because it's one thing to not be fully aware of what players are doing. It's another to know and then lie. You think anyone is going to put up a multi-billion dollar investment and immediately take someone who is a proven and admitted liar to be the face of that investment? What if this were steroid use, or gambling? How would an NFL owner know how to trust someone with the ethical standards Tressel has.
That, and it's not NFL coach hiring season.
It was Sam who said, "Don't get caught doing drugs, or you'll have to make a commercial, just like this one."
At work... just chugging it out... no doubt the plan all along... make Tressel appear to be above it all to his blind worshipping followers...
Best of luck Tressel - I think the NCAA won't be hoodwinked. This isn't something you can brush under the rug by missing games against Colorado, Miami (YTM), and MSU.
Unfortunately, I think we're giving the NCAA way too much credit. That said, I will say that I'm hope I'm wrong and that the NCAA comes down on Senator McCheaty Pants and OSU will the fury of God's own thunder.
I was expecting something like this from Tressel camp in the wake of the all this Peal talk. Hopefully the NCAA sees past the "look how well I punished myself" attempt and smacks him hard for the insult.
It was ok when it was only two but now that the players' appeal was rejected he's finally trying to be "fair". This guy is as good as gone. I agree he is running scared. Is the fine still $250K?
I believe the suspension means he doesn't get paid for those games.
Hope he is able to sell his sweater vests on e bay to pay his bills. Too bad he didn't get a chance to punch out a Clemson player to get his ass fired.
I'm sure he can get some tips from his players on how to maximize your profit when selling personal items.
For you it shouldn't matter if he keeps his job
OSU is a reflection of the state of Ohio and its people like few other colleges are: many of Ohio's residents tie up their own self-images and identities with the Buckeyes. And now the man leading them is a Liar, and that will not change. You need to think about that.
I'm going on the assumption that you are an OSU fan, and in which case, you should be seriously ashamed. I didn't believe it at first, but really, Tressel lied. He knowingly played ineligable players and benefited with a Big Ten championship and a Sugar Bowl win. Considering the image Tressel has cultivated for himself, and consequently thrust on himself by the fanbase, you really should be ashamed. You should demand for his resignation. This was an egreigous error on his part, and even though is a great coach, this really shows that he was sold out his morals and integrity for wins. You should want a better representation for your school and program. I would want the same for UM.
If he were fined for two missed games, that would definitely be more than $250K. He was getting a paid vacation as it was.
A 250k fine is 1/14 of his base salary. Even if he doesn't get paid for the 5 games (about 1.5 mill) he's still making 1.75 mill. Yes, it's half his salary, which is a lot, but he ain't hurtin'.
Also, that really just means OSU saves money, which they can probably spend elsewhere, such as basketball players or something, I dunno. Either way, the whole fine/loss of money isn't a big factor. The fine should be higher, he shouldn't get paid for the games, but the money should go somewhere outside the athletic department and not straight to the NCAA. Non-athletic scholarship, Japanese relief, other charity, me, dinosaurs, etc.
Lets hope the NCAA does not buy into his attempt to minimize his lying ass.
Time for us to recruit the hell out of Ohio.
Now I understand why we haven't had a junior day yet. Genius move by the new staff.
I agree with a couple of the above posters. This was a premeditated move by Gee, Smith, and Tressel. I could be wrong and the media backlash on their weak-ass sanctions could have caused this; but it wouldn't surprise me if this was the plan all along to make Tressel look like the Moral Standard that he claims to be.
Fuck Jim Tressel.
I can't see Tressel and Mr. "I hope he doesn't fire me" Gee coming up with the 250k and 2 games thinking "we'll take an ass beating from the media for weeks and then move JT's suspension to 5 games so we look better". It looks like they're desperate and I expect the non Columbus media to see through this...
Nice timing by the vest on the first day of the NCAA tournament, however.
Either it was premeditated - which sounds awfully tin-foil-hatty but I wouldn't put it past those slimeballs - or even Jim Tressel himself thinks that two-game suspension was bullshit. In either case it doesn't say much for the competence of the OSU athletic department. What a clown show.
Doesn't this just make OSU look ridiculous for their press conference? Okay, even more ridiculous?
This is truly great.... it appears the waters are parting for us, to regain our stronghold. And it is truly amazing that Tressel is crass enough to think that the NCAA is so naive in this latest ploy.
I hate to say it, but I think the NCAA may actually be that naive.
These are still meaningless penalties. OSU will still be a 2 loss or better team and make it to a good, high-paying bowl game.
The NCAA has to follow its USC penalties and dock OSU scholarships and even consider a postseason ban for this year--in acknowledgement that this should have ben done last year.
I don't think the penalties should be quite as severe as USC's, and I don't believe in vacating wins (aka photoshopping someone out of the wedding pics).
So I think:
24 scholarships/3 years
1 year bowl game ban
Is sufficient and appropriate.
Michigan, of course, would benefit from both, by picking up a couple Ohio kids each year and by likely moving one place up the bowl-berth food chain. But that's not the point. The point is that these self-imposed sanctions mean little to nothing for OSU's program, and the NCAA needs to make sure that the punishment deters the program from further violations.
But you're talking about 8 scholorships a year. JT screwed the pooch on this, but that kills the program, and IME, is a bit too far. I know that won't be popular around here, but I think that last season should be vacated, JT should be out at least 7 (I would have been fine with 5 if OSU would have started there), and maybe 2-3 scholarships a year for a couple years, along with the appropriate probation, etc.
The program should be punished, not killed.
Personally, as a Michigan fan, I only want OSU punished and not killed, because I don't want it to ruin the best rivalry in college football.
Not me...blow em up real good.
I don't think anything would kill OSU's program. Even the death penalty. Yes, they might be bad for a decade, but it's still Ohio where they pump a lot of talent out and people down there bleed, breath, and birth red and grey. They would still get back up there sooner or later. Thus any penalty should be very harsh to get any effect what-so-ever.
And a 1-year postseason ban is 50%. That, to me, is fair, especially if they are not forced to vacate bowl wins, etc.
Plus it will take more than that to ruin OSU's program. They'll still have mostly four star recruits and win 7, 8 or even 9 games a year. But it WOULD take them down a peg for several years, which I think--considering not only this, but also the "loaner" cars, etc.--is deserved.
5 game suspensions against cupcakes (and 1 decent opponent) in one year means nothing. It's a nothing punishment.
Why, exactly, should Tressel keep his job? I'm not saying I want OSU crippled for the next 25 years, a la SMU, but he's a liar and a cheater.
A person with his character has no place coaching in the NCAA, just like Bruce Pearl doesn't, just like Kelvin Sampson doesn't.
Don't forget that the NCAA took a lot of crap for letting the Tatgate participants play in the bowl game and suspending them afterward. To discover later that the coach knew and lied about it means the hammer is coming.