Goodbye to free info.
Tremendous to 247 sports
No wonder the site wasn't updated since Sunday. Congrats to him, but sad for us =)
Yeah, I was wondering what was going on. Well.... that stinks.
Keep up the good work!
I bet their boosters got to him. No way he goes to that scho...I mean company, without a payoff. He'd have come here if we'd have matched the offer, but we don't play those games in this conference. Oh well, I hope he enjoys all the free money and girls they have there.
Wasn't he supposed to work here? I was always confused by that.
I remember a front page post about how they would be working together etc and then....a few links to his site in the recruiting roundup and the occassional board post. Oh well, onward and upward. Best of luck tremendous.
Damn, well there goes our best free resource for recruiting. That being said, he's done some good work, and it's good that Tremendous is getting the recognition.
Still...first TomVH, now Tremendous...
Way to throw Ace under the bus...
I can't remember the last time Ace interviewed a prospect or basically did anything that the rest of us couldn't do. The recruiting pieces have info from all the major recruiting sites and he just extrapolates on them. He does other stuff but I wouldn't defend him when it comes to recruiting.
He's diversified. He's now more of a basketball beat writer, recruiting round-upper, and gif-creator.
I couldn't do what Ace does because I don't have access to pay sites... and unlike that certain Alabama fan, I am not part of the network of southern high school football coaches who have a great track record of predicting things... ;)
that this site is free. Ace has never offered himself as a guy who gets scoops ala Tom VH et.al, so what excatly is your displeasure based upon?
You're having a hard time following the posts, aren't you? We're talking about recruiting and I stated how Ace doesn't do much with that. He does do a lot of other stuff that is great but we're talking about recruiting. If you need me to go into further detail then I don't think this is the place for you.
I think he was starting to do some interviews & then Tremendous popped up. Brian & Ace (IMO wisely) probably figured the same set of kids didn't need ANOTHER guy harassing them about their recruitment (esp. when all the Tremendous info was freely available).
I'll spend spend some more time reading your critical posts next time. Though perhaps you should re-read your own? If you don't think that post was criticizing Ace than I can't help you.
Ace is smart and funny, I think Tremendous is stalker-sketchy, but he does get the news. I would rather be on a long car trip with Ace, however.
Why would you think that? I always thought Tremendous was quite professional. I doubt 247 would have hired him if he came off as "stalker-sketchy".
Asking teenage boys to follow you on twitter is definitely creepy. I understand the necessity and that it's the nature of reporting on recruiting, but it still looks creepy as shit.
What Kristen Kenney was saying about Derrick Green was much worse. All because he didn't want to give her and interview. At least Steve was respectful.
Except he's not asking random teenage boys to follow him on twitter, just the ones who are future D1 football players. If those guys feel that Steve is bothering them, they can block him on twitter or facebook and stop returning his calls or texts.
These kids may be sub-18, but they're public figures. They have the right to their privacy if they want it, but trying to report on them is not creepy at all. Most of them probably love it, and the ones who don't probably tell him as much.
Like I said, I get it. It's a necessary evil, but it's still creepy.
I don't know man, I don't think any interaction with a high school kid is creepy.
Example: I go to the local high school basketball and football games on occasion. That's not creepy. I also spend about a quarter of the time checking out the girls who go to said high school, thinking that high school girls in California look a lot older than the ones in Michigan when i was in high school. Yeah, that's kinda creepy.
See I have a sister who is 8ish years younger than I am. She was a very good high school athlete and ultimately a D1 athlete. She gets/got creepy text messages (before twitter) and ultimately tweets from local newspapers, blogs and strangers all over the country and this is just a fraction of the attention that a top tier football or basketball recruit would get.
I'm probably just too close to the situation to think about it rationally.
See, looking at it from the point of view of a girl might be the reason you think it's creepy. I could see how a 17 year old girl gets creeped out by a bunch of men she doesn't know contacting and photographing her. But a 17 year old boy who thinks he's a total tough guy (most future D1 football players, I would imagine) unlikely feels threatened at all, and more than likely loves the attention.
Some of them might see it as annoying, but I would bet very few of them see it as creepy.
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Last I checked, MGOBLOG was still free.
MGoBlog is amazing, but it's not a recruiting-centric site. It has some quality info, and I really like Ace's bi-weekly recruiting updates, but you simply get a lot more recruiting info from Tremendous than from MGoBlog. It's (or was now) the only free website that can compete in content with the paysites.
Alright, I'll agree with you. Does that mean Touchthebanner (Magnus) is our best recruiting-centric free site available?
I would say so.
TTB has its own niche. It focuses heavily on player rating and a lot of depth chart analysis mixed with some football strategy. It serves as another player rating site that focuses on Michigan prospects as well as players on the team (and some that have graduated from/ left the team). They mix in recruiting news that is publicly available, but the focus is on football. While initially I enjoyed tremendous more, I now greatly prefer TTB since it has a better defined focus and offers original view points (I've thought that tremendous's basketball analysis has been absolutely futile.) Having said that, I have really enjoyed the recruit interviews that tremendous does. On the other hand, where would we be without all the boobs on TTB?
Well, thanks for the compliments.
Where would you be? You'd all be at a gay bar. Those boobs keep you straight. You're welcome.
Actually I'm posting from a gay bar right now. I guess I missed the point???
Yes, he is a curmudgeon, however, he is the best...unless you are a huge DeVeon Smith fan.
Sam Webb's Twitter Feed is still free!
It sucks in that we never really replaced TomVH in terms of the ability to foresee the future. Tom could often predict stuff (or give strong hints) a week or more out and his predictions about the big picture were normally dead on. Tremendous seemed to be moving along that path, but he just stopped being free.
Hopefully someone else emerges to fill the void.
MGoBlog > Pay $ites.
Agreed, except I think ESPN insider is worth it if you take advantage of the deals that go around every so often. $12 is more than worth 3 years of TomVH for me.
One of only two sites I pay any attention to outside of this one. (TTB the other.)
The pay sites just piss me off.
That's exactly my rotation. MGo, TTB, and Tremendous.
I'm surprised it took this long for them to notice.
He deserves it, but bummer, I'll miss his site and twitter feed.
I pay too much attention to recruiting anyway. Maybe I'll pick up a hobby. Hmmm...knitting or crocheting?
Or hunting wabbits?
You only need one needle.
It's nice to see someone turn their passion into a paying gig. Well deserved.
Tremendous is a great site that has provided us with great information, and it was likely only a matter of time before they moved up in the world. Like others, I would read the site often, so that does create a space where I may have to face my fears and do some actual work.
Excellent opportunity, I would imagine, and congratulations to him.
Edit: Nevermind, saw a bunch of tweets about it.
I didn't want to be that asshole and post a thread asking why they weren't updating the site. Timing sucks, this close to signing day and all, but good for them.
Wish Brian had hired him
I mean, it's great for him. He certainly deserves it. I'm going to miss visiting his site though.
So, MGoBlog sends TomVH to ESPN, Tim to Rivals, and Tremendous (I don't think he'd have had as much success with his site without MGoBlog) to 247. It seems to me that Ace may be on his way to Scout sometime soon.
Yeah, Ace could eventually become Scout's version of Sam Webb.
Isn't Sam Webb Scout's version of Sam Webb?
Poor Ace would have to work for Tom Beaver.
I think Brian said that Scout is trying to phase out Tom Beaver, which would be a step in a positive direction for them...
So what happens to Mgobluegr now? He was good at contacting recruits and writing up interviews
Thanks for the kind words, I will also be moving over to 247 sports with Steve as well. As some of you may remember, I started writing about recruiting here and there is no way I would be where I am today without this amazing site.
I don't need to keep that a secret anymore. Hey guys, tremendous to 247
So are you saying he was a silent commit to 247 and we knew nothing about it? Dammit man. We need a meta-recruiting site, which will track the recruiting of the various recruiting services.
Wait until Urban gets a hold of him. He'll flip to OSU's 247 site before NSD.
Urban had already offered him...and he wanted to commit to tOSU's 247 site...but the offer was non-commitable.
Ask any tOSU 247 reader.
NOT MAGNUS?!?!? I, for one, am shocked SHOCKED at their oversight.
Three of your last four comments on MGoBlog have been about me, and they've all been unprompted.
Have been about his dudeness
Damn Magnus, you even put down the people that worship you. That's probably why I've always pictured you having the grumpy cat face.
I don't know anyone who worships me, and I'm not sure what you're referencing when you say I "put them down."
Just trying to give voice to the voiceless here. You hammer some high school kids' ability to play football under the assumption that you are in some way an "expert of analysis" and you aren't. That much is clear.
I am just trying to let those who look over MGoBlog (quite a few people) that you are in no way an expert of anything. You know, since you don't let that be known to them.
If I had a mechanic look over my car I would assume he is in some way qualified to tell me that it is a piece of shit. You do so without letting your customer know and under the assumption that you are and I find that to be a slimy thing to do.
I have never claimed to be an expert, and I never will.
That's really all I have to say. There's no point in getting into an argument with you.
I am not arguing with you. I am calling your on the side, part time hobby of ripping high school kids a disgrace. You can voice your opinion, but I will just be there to say that it is truly baseless and that it holds no water because your opinion on recruit analysis is literally as valuable as a Jersey toll booth operators opinion about ACL reconstruction.
So if a kid comes on here and finds out that the MGoBlog community thinks he is a lesser recruit because one time Magnus claimed he didnt have good knee bend I will be there to pat him on the back and say "It's ok, guy. That Magnus doesn't know shit. No literally. He has no fucking clue what he is saying about analysis. He isn't even paid! I know right? He rips high school kids like you - who work really hard ot get betterevery day - based on no knowledge whatsoever in his spare time!! It is crazy. I know. Yea he has to be fat. I know."
Praise is the only thing a lot of these guys ever hear, so what's it matter that Magnus gives them a little criticism? On TTB he states that he's a high school coach, emphasizing on LB's and DL, which doesn't mean he's an expert, but he probably has a more technical understanding than a lot of us do.
I for one, appreciate his views on a lot of players. My only complaint is, I wish he posted more content, but it's his hobby/side job so I understand. The way he conducts himself reminds me a lot of my old DL coach in high school, who would tell you how it is.
P.S. - Coach Coombs, is that you?
I'm unfortunately very late to the game but that's enough, Dude. Stop the personal attacks. Its my one true hot-button issue and I'll dock you all the points if you insist on hammering away at Magnus, a well-respected contributor of actual content to the site.
I smell an MGoThrowdown brewin'
I'm sorry to disappoint you.
Pure speculation on my part re: why Tremendous was hired/mysteriously disappeared from MGoBlog, but philosophically I don't think he meshed. He's very good at making direct contact with recruits and gaining their trust and writing up interviews but the blog seems to take a more wholistic view of the recruiting process. As such we've seen less interviews with potential recruits from Ace lately. Just a thought.
However props to this guy, he really climbed the ladder from nowhere.
I don't think it's fair to compare Ace with Tremendous
Ace is more of an information gatherer than what Tremendous did.
Tremendous did interviews and direct contact. For the most part, Ace takes information from elsewhere and relays it to us.
Wow, this sucks. That was my second favorite Michigan site behind mgoblog. I'm dissappointed but they deserve it and 247 will be a lot better because of these guys.
Everyone should take this as a reminder to click on a few ads here on MgoBlog. The ad click revenue is how Brian is able to make a few bucks and keep this site free!
I guess I need to get twitter and harass 17 and 18 year olds to get a new job
I hope he finishes the top 10 for 2014, but at least now we know why the site was not updating.
Thanks guys. This would have never happened if Brian hadn't interviewed me for the job that Ace deservedly got. It was the motivation I needed.
I've enjoyed the content on your site.
Good luck with this new job.
Whelp, you bettering yourself just ruined my day. Think about that.
So did you work on Tremendous as your full-time job or did you just do it on the side while working somewhere else? Or did you not have a job and basically just created one for yourself out of thing air? Curious. Either way, very impressive, but if it's the latter I'm really impressed.
Congratulations on the new job!
Shut up hater
Then goes trolling on other sites for info and ideas to put on his blog
Where are you going with this?
Steve.. You were my go to free resource man. Sadly the competition snatched you up. I understand the decision but will miss the creativity and latitude you gave recruits. Breaking down their own film for you etc. Sad day for me man.
To repeat what seems is the general consensus, Am happy for you, but sad for the rest of us. Good Luck and Fair Winds.
We will always have RollDamnTide.
I still feel like 1 of our best recruits just got snake oiled away.... Bittersweet congrats.
Congratulations on the new job and good luck! I'll miss going to your site.
Damnnn.. This really makes me sad. I would go to the Tremendous website almost just as much as Mgoblog. It is always second on my history list with TTB third. Makes me feel like I just lost a good friend:(
I was wondering why there hasn't been any new tremendous intent in a while. I was hoping there was going to be a smorgasbord of new information... This is quite the dong punch
This is obviously a bummer as Tremendoes/Aquaman/SteveLorenz was a great resource who I read often.
HOWEVA, where there is need there is opportunity. Tremendous took advantage of the lack of TomVH, and now someone will take advantage of the lack of Tremendous, especially now that there's a trend of being hired by a pay site. I bet by mid-summer there are a handful of new Michigan recruiting blogs, have of which are run by MGoBlog posters, one of which will be just as good as Tremendous was (not to take anything away from him, of course).
There is obviously a huge demand for free M recruiting blog, and that's probably a really fun job for someone if you're good at it. This is like if the guy selling hot dogs or t-shirts on the way to the stadium moved away. Someone else would start selling hot dogs or t-shirts promptly thereafter.
Lots of new blogs have popped up in the past few years, and most of them have folded or been absorbed by other sites. Varsity Blue was absorbed by MGoBlog, and then Tim moved on to The Wolverine. Then The Wolverine Blog popped up and was absorbed by MGoBlog. Now Tremendous has been absorbed by 247 Sports. I guess it's the natural evolution of capitalism.
For sure, but that's the motivation for new blogs to pop up. If you make a good one, you could get hired by a bigger site (MGoBlog) or hired by a pay site. To extend my analogy, it's like if the hot dog guy gets hired by Oscar Meyer full time or something like that. Some other young and excited hot dog seller will start his stand for a shot at the big time.
to comment over there. They liked all the Michigan-related commenting I did here and really felt I would be an asset to their board.
But seriously, Michigan fans are too good at being bloggers. People keep picking all the sweet free stuff off. I hope MGoBlog remains free forever
I've hit the o'l beveled guilt button before (not nearly enough I admit) & and you should too.
you just donate to the cause
At least in the immediate future, a lot of my football analysis I did for Tremendous will be coming back to this site (in the form of diaries probably). I know most people were interested in the recruiting aspects (which I understand), but I always hope that my content added something to the site. Hopefully what I put up over here is an appreciated small addition for the bigger loss that is a free Michigan focused recruiting site.
Congrats to Tremendous as well. I'll miss working on the site but think you made the correct decision.
I'm happy for Tremendous, and very glad to see that he can get paid professional-level money to do what he loves. Anytime someone gets a "promotion" based on performance, especially when he did all of the work himself from the ground up, it's great to hear.
So could someone please explain:
1. Who the bald zombie-looking pall bearer is? (I assume he brethes underwater or actually IS a zombie)
2. How does Hawk-Man breathe without a helmet like batman (bubbles?)
3. Is that Aquaman's squeeze being consoled by WW ?(also not wearing a helmet by the way)
I MUST learn these answers before I start drinking in 3 hours!
1. Metamorpho, the Element Man. He's made of and can become various elements, so he doesn't need to breath.
2. Uhhh, next question. (Actually back in that day he was a space cop so even though his face shows it might have had some sort of breathing apparatus. But ten he probably flew through space without a shirt).
3. Yes, Mera. Not sure if he was his wife yet by then. But certainly before their kid was murdered. And I'm guessing WW can hold her breath close to as long as Superman. (Mera was an underwater person too)
Great news for Tremendous. I wish him the best of success at 247. Maybe he can pop over to MGoBlog every now and then and submit his info for us? No one has to know.
Yet another joins the ranks of the scouting services that could not have played much of any of the sport he is to analyze recruits at.
good explosiveness, plays high, great highlights, loose in the hips, and had a great visit, thinks the coaches are intense.
At least Barton Simmons at 247 has a football background, unlike some of the other sites.
Most of the staff writers aren't involved in the actual scouting and ranking. TomVH doesn't rank prospects for ESPN. Just does interviews and reports on UM related recruiting stuffs. I don't even think 247 had a dedicated UM guy for their UM before. The Iowa guy doubled as UM's as well.
glad to see talented individuals earning greater opportunities!
Mgoblog is the Cincinnati of recruiting websites
That doesn't sound like a compliment.
We recruit insiders and then pull their scholarships?
Yeah, that analogy was tenuous at best.