Transfers to/from Michigan

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December 6th, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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Transfers to/from Michigan

I've always had this question in the back of my mind, and I'm sure this board has all the answers.

I always hear about players that transfer FROM Michigan to other schools for whatever reason. However, how often do we get players to transfer TO Michigan? If every other college is able to draw kids mid-career, we should be able to as well, right? I'm just thinking about Brian's post and there being no up-side to Smith leaving. No experienced talent at the position(s) that he would be playing. So I was thinking, why not bring an experienced, talented player from outside the program?

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December 6th, 2009 at 3:54 PM | Wayne Dorsey is still on the board... (Score:1)
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That would be nice...if he fits.

December 6th, 2009 at 3:57 PM | It's very difficult to (Score:1)
JPQ
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just go out and bring in an experienced player from another program. The staff doesn't waste time touring the country, trying to poach players from other universities. And even if we could land a solid transfer, he would have to sit out a year as NCAA rules dictate. What coaches try to do to get a "quick fix" is bring in JUCO players but this has been discussed before. Not only is it difficult to get the credits to transfer, we don't appear to attract many. Let's just wait and see how the rest of the recruiting season plays out before we panic.

December 6th, 2009 at 3:57 PM | For Basketball... (Score:1)
kriegers
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Luval Lucas Perry transferred from Arizona (I think). But, the analogy still works for football b/c often you have players transferring from a stronger program to a weaker program (and there aren't too many stronger football programs than M).

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December 6th, 2009 at 4:20 PM | Also (Score:1)
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Zack Gibson is a Rutgers transfer.

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December 6th, 2009 at 5:58 PM | LLP (Score:1)
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also had his one-year delay waived because of the circumstances of his transfer (Arizona coach scandal of some sort).... his family had to petition the NCAA. Being able to come in and play right away is not a common occurrence. I'm pretty sure Mallett had to wait a year when he transferred (whose family also petitioned).

December 6th, 2009 at 6:07 PM | LLP Did Sit (Score:1)
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LLP transferred after only being in for 1 semester at Arizona. He actually did have to sit out one year - the last half of our 10-21 season and the first semester of last year. He wasn't eligible until after the first semester ended, which is why his first game wasn't until we played Oakland U. at the Palace and he started raining threes.

December 6th, 2009 at 6:10 PM | uhhhh (Score:1)
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That's wrong, Dude. 100% incorrect.

December 6th, 2009 at 7:59 PM | No, uhhh, it's actually right (with a side note) (Score:1)
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Becaus he left mid-year, he had to sit 'till mid year. He could not play until after December semester ended. However, he got that semester of eligibility back, upon appeal.
http://www.umhoops.com/2008/05/09/laval-lucas-perry-wins-back-eligibility/

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December 7th, 2009 at 12:06 AM | still not quite right... (Score:1)
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He got his eligibility back, but he still had to sit out a year, so you're both partially wrong. Most players that transfer mid year end up really only having three season of eligibility. (First semester of year one, second semester of year two, both semesters for years three and four).

December 6th, 2009 at 4:00 PM | I've always heard that U of M (Score:1)
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I've always heard that U of M makes it fairly difficult for transfer students to get in, and one of my good friends was a fairly talented JUCO player who wanted to play for U of M, and he said they politely suggested he go somewhere else because even though he had D1 talent, they don't take JUCO players. I think the only JUCO player we've had the last decade or so was Austin Panter. Granted, transferring from a JUCO is different from transferring from another major college but I've still heard it's tough.

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December 6th, 2009 at 4:00 PM | It's mostly a story of credits transferring. (Score:1)
JPQ
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My friend transferred from Eastern Michigan, a fully-accredited institution of higher education and many of her credits did not transfer to M. It can make things awfully difficult for JUCO players.

December 7th, 2009 at 12:43 AM | I transferred from Cornell (Score:1)
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I transferred from Cornell after two years and only lost 5 credits.. Apples to oranges I suppose...

December 6th, 2009 at 4:25 PM | Threet. Transferred in. (Score:1)
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Threet. Transferred in. Transferred out.

December 6th, 2009 at 4:35 PM | Question on transfers (Score:1)
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Do transfers count against the 25/year limit? Do they sign the same kind of LOI that incoming freshmen do?

December 6th, 2009 at 4:37 PM | Transfers count for the 85 (Score:1)
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Transfers count for the 85 scholarship limit.

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December 6th, 2009 at 5:19 PM | Van Slyke (Score:1)
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transferred to Michigan as did Threet -- albeit before he transferred again.

December 6th, 2009 at 5:24 PM | There are very few transfers (Score:1)
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There are very few transfers from lesser schools to bigger schools. Though, with the new scholarship rule, this might be good tree to bark up.

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December 6th, 2009 at 5:31 PM | Seemed like a good place to (Score:1)
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Seemed like a good place to insert this, so this isn't completely directed toward blueadams.

The reason most transfer to lower level schools is to avoid burning a year of eligibility. If you transfer from a NCAA school (JUCO's aren't NCAA) to a higher division, or to another school in your division, you have to sit out a year. Most players that transfer tend to be players that weren't getting playing time, and probably were redshirted already.

To transfer to another school in D1, or transfer to another school in D1, they'd have to sit out a year. If they have already burnt their redshirt, that's a year of competition they lose. Instead, most players transfer to a lower level where they will play immediately.

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December 6th, 2009 at 11:46 PM | D1AA to D1 (Score:1)
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Can you tranfer from a D1AA school to a D1 school without burning a year? I always thought that Armanti Edwards should have tranferred from Appalachian State to Michigan before the 2008 season (after torching them in 2007).

He would have had two years of eligibility left and there aren't many QB's in the country more qualified to RR's offense. He's a little on the small size, but not really smaller than TF. I always thought that he would have been a great interim fit for the offense.

December 6th, 2009 at 5:44 PM | It does happen (Score:1)
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It is rare, but I do remember Lofa Tatupu transferred from Maine to USC, then became an All-American and a pretty good NFL player.

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December 6th, 2009 at 5:37 PM | morgan trent was a transfer (Score:1)
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morgan trent was a transfer

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December 6th, 2009 at 5:42 PM | from? (Score:1)
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from?

December 6th, 2009 at 5:52 PM | No, he wasn't. (Score:1)
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No, he wasn't.

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December 6th, 2009 at 6:06 PM | He switched majors (Score:1)
Big Boutros
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He switched majors

December 6th, 2009 at 6:16 PM | I suspect you're thinking of (Score:1)
BlueAggie
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I suspect you're thinking of Grant Mason. He transferred from Stanford, if memory serves.

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December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 PM | Grant Mason (Score:1)
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Grant Mason transferred from Stanford to UM around 2002 or 2003

December 6th, 2009 at 6:27 PM | i was testing you. (Score:1)
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i stand corrected.

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December 6th, 2009 at 7:50 PM | Russell Shaw (Score:1)
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I know it's going back some, but he transferred from a JUCO to start for our NC team in '97.

December 6th, 2009 at 7:53 PM | Threet (Score:1)
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I remember Threet transferred from Georgia Tech, but that's about the only recent football player I can think of that transferred in that I can think of... And he transferred back out a year later.

December 7th, 2009 at 10:34 AM | Jonathon Goodwin (Score:1)
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O-lineman tranferred from Miami (no, not that one), I think

December 7th, 2009 at 12:55 PM | I think Goodwin was a (Score:1)
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I think Goodwin was a Michigan recruit from the beginning. Anybody have any insight? He's from South Carolina, so I have a hard time believing he'd commit to Miami (OH) and then transfer to Michigan. Usually people transfer a) to a smaller school and/or b) closer to home.

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December 7th, 2009 at 1:04 PM | FWIW (Score:1)
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:14 PM | Thanks, antoo. (Score:1)
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Thanks, antoo.

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