This isn't going to work.
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
This isn't going to work.
i want to win the pissing contest too!
I can piss the farthest. Guaranteed
Volume is important, yes, but if you can't generate enough pressure then it will be like a hose without your thumb over it. You have to take into account the size of the reservoir, surcharge applied to the reservoir and energy losses throughout the cycle such as friction. Also, there is the angle and air resistance.
Before you make a simplistic statement about volume being the key, you should look through your fluid mechanics textbook.
But pressure is inversely correlated with urethral diameter, which is itself directly correlated with penis size, which is, after all, what a pissing contest is ultimately about.
the formula is length divided by girth x the amount of time you have been holding it in.
WTF is up with your sig? I mean really.
Oh yeah!? Not if I have anything to do with it. I'll bet you a buck I can piss farther than you. Book it.
I win because I can piss snow murals. I am like fucking Van Gogh with my piss.
my piss is clean
You need a vacation somewhere warmer.
What are you trying to get out of this thread? Serious question. Because as it is now, this just seems like you are trying to cause a flamewar. There are going to be a lot of different, very strong opinions and this is just one more thread.
and in bad taste to post that video at this time.
I'm on a blog. About Michigan sports. And that video is related directly to my stated purpose. If you found the video in bad taste then that is due to YOUR projections, NOT any insinuation of mine. One had nothing to do with the other... that is, until you made it so. If that were always the case, there really isn't anything that anyone couldn't find subjectively distasteful.
My post was to implore the powers that be not to give "weapons" (i.e. the power to post) to "monkeys" (I'll let you fill this one in), so as to avoid unknowingly "shooting" (writing posts that do nothing but inflame the masses) the blog to shit.
And by the way, lighten up, Francis.
"Everybody get together and try to love one another right now."
I like your avatar, but maybe you should think about updating to the latest uniforms.
Calm the fuck down
Will you pretty pretty please post instructions on how to get an embedded video to autoplay at a certain point? It's never worked for me, even though I enter the time I want it to start at.
1.) Use the "old embed code". Copy and paste after switching to "plain text editor".
It will look like this:
<Embed><object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JFhT0wFa8B8?hl=en_US&version=3&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JFhT0wFa8B8?hl=en_US&version=3&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
2.) Add the point you want in seconds (Min*60 + sec) after the URL and typing "&start=" (example above was 157)
New code looks like this (bolded):
<Embed><object width="560" height="315"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JFhT0wFa8B8?hl=en_US&version=3&start=157"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JFhT0wFa8B8?hl=en_US&version=3&start=157" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="560" height="315" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
I was with you until you got to "old embed code". Guess i'll just continue posting useless responses with no embeds.
I actually don't do it the same way as the other poster suggested. In case his/her method doesn't work, here's what I do:
In the embed code, find the URL to the video. Append "#t=Xs" to the end of the URL in the embed code, in which X is the number of seconds from the beginning that you want the video to start.
Alright here's a trial:
Edit: didn't work. Do you still have to use the old embed code using this method? If so, it doesn't exist on YouTube anymore.
Open the video you want. then select "Share." Then select "embed."
Below the imbed code are four boxes to check for different options. one of them is "Use old embed code."
Select that, and then copy and paste the code. Follow the instructions posted above to time stamp it.
1. This is a terrible post.
2. Yes, I care. Yes, our uniforms are tradition. Sure, our away jerseys have evolved over time, but they were tweaks, and they never changed within a season let alone 10ish times over the course of 2 years.
Dammit. It seems that Dollars > Tradition.
I never thought I'd say this, but I would have to agree with George W on this one...
I'm not from the Midwest. I'm a student at Michigan, but that only means I encounter other Michigan fans. Really, the only contact I have with rival fans involves them posting on this blog. Consequently, I don't ever get into pissing contests of this nature (at least not with rival fans). And yet, I care about this stuff. Honest answer.
The childish post about being insecure about how you are viewed by fans of other programs and thus using 133 years of tradition as a bragging tool?
Many fans are in a similar situation. It is indeed primarily a pissing contest with ourselves.
and a sweeter post! you've combined all of the qualities of feces with all of the qualities of nothing to make for the rare crappy post about nothing.
YOU take the time out of your incredibly busy and important life to post multiple times on the thread that you are too good for? Yeah...........
Well, I think we are the home team against SC, which means we chose to wear these as the home team, which means that these ARE our home uniforms for this game, which means that we've now screwed with the HOME UNIFORMS!!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! EVERYONE PANIC!!!!
They can change the away jerseys all they want. I DO NOT want the home jerseys changed. They look amaizeing and always will. Don't ever change the home uniforms.
ever bring up to opposing fans. Keeping with the traditional uniform is important to me because I don't think there's anything else greater than that jersey. And, when fans and opposing fans turn on the TV, they should be able to say, "That's Michigan" at first glance.
This is my stance as well. I want to see a streamlined reboot from Nike in a few years when fan outcry hopefully leads DB to return the Michigan brand to Nike.
Dirk McGurk we hardly knew ye.
And don't like the uniform (helmet is okay but not an improvement). If nobody buys these "special jerseys" Brandon will stop screwing with them. I won't buy one.
is it time to raise the threshold to post new threads?
I'm not sure why people are freaking out about your post so much. It's an interesting question. This place gets really group-thinky about certain things, and I think it's a fair question to stop and ask "how many of you actually think this?"
That said, your title is really bad. I had no idea what the thread would be about when I clicked it. But whatever. Sometimes the internet just has its meltdowns.
Part of the value of the boards is to say and point out when a post is fucking stupid, to discourage it from happening again. If there is only one person who thinks the thread is stupid, they'll be shown to be wrong when they've snarked or negged and everyone else likes it. And threads like that will have enough encouragement to be repeated.
The grammer gds r dedz lulz.
... and I'm reaping all the benifits."
I'm going to be honest in the spirit of DirkMcGurk's actual post.
I generally think the alternate uniform craze is just generally stupid. It used to be cool when a team like the Detroit Lions would wear retro uniforms on Thanksgiving or something. I'm not sure I'd say I liked it because of tradition, but it at least seemed to be for a reason other than "we can." Tradition or not, I think it's dumb when "uniforms" change so frequently, seemingly just for the hell of it or to squeeze some dollars (I'm much less opposed to the AD making money than a lot of people around here, but the uniform thing is a means of making money that is unavoidable, which is why I hate it).
Personally, I don't mind the idea of Michigan's uniforms changing, provided the wings are untouched. I didn't mind the UTL jerseys, and I thought the return to putting numbers on the helmets for a season was cool. But again, it was a historic match-up, against historic teams, playing in a historic rivalry, for the first night game in one of the most storied stadiums in the country. It they want to bust out special uniforms for it, so be it. Make it a big ol' spectacle, you've got 113,000 people watching a football game.
My main problem is the degree to which they are usually so ugly. The Sugar Bowl ones weren't bad. The Bama ones were worse than that. The MSU ones were obviously the nadir of Michigan anything. (Still think UTL were pretty cool, though.)
To address the tradition issue surrounding the unis, I for one do not want any changes to the maize and blue home unis. I think we should wear them for all home games. The white away jerseys can be toyed with, but keep it consistent.
I think a football version of the white basketball jerseys would be cool, just keep the maize pants.
The internet seems to be missing a Fiddler Tradition gif. If I were a rich man, I would do something about it.
As for the original question, I think all of the new uniforms dilute the brand for a quick money grab. I dislike very much.
or directing me to a better gif site?
This could turn into a pissing match. Let me see your best tradition gif! I think mine is better than yours!
My only tradition gif is probably the tradition of me having no idea how to embed anything even though I've probably read a "meta" post about it 300 times.
Right click on the gif itself and click copy image location. When you post a reply, click on the green/yellow/red square labeled "image." Next past into the URL and click on a random box. You have added a gif (and great value) to the board.
Now come at me!
Personally do not care! The game is changing and recruits like this kind of stuff. I've seen many pictures of recruits wearing gloves that spell something or make a picture. Michigan tradition is a winged helmet, banner, good defense, winning and hail to the victors. Outside of the fan base no one cares about the jersey or pants.
Are you saying with your last sentence that we should only care about things if a bunch of other people do as well? If that's the case, you do realize that this is a Michigan blog, that Michigan attracts a lot of nerds, and caring deeply about things few others do is basically a nerd's super power?
I know it attracts a lot of people who like to argue about petty stuff
Recruits do not give a FUCK about alternate uniforms when it comes to committing to a school.
So they tweet about it for no reason when new uni's are released. I did not say that's why they pick a school. I said they like it.
I'm sure they like p---y and cars too. And hell, other schools do that. Why don't we do that?
I like calling triple reverse throwbacks every play. Doesn't mean I'm right.
There are many, many traditions involved with the University of Michigan and it's football team. When it comes to the football team, the only tradition I really care about it winning. I may be in the minoirty, but I wouldn't care if the team rolled out in brown and mauve uniforms if it meant we would win the next 10 national championships. Obviously, that's not realistic, and I do care to a certain extent about the helmet, the home blues, etc, but all I really want is for the team to win...a lot.
You should have went to school in the SEC then. Or perhaps Miami is more your speed... (Miami in the 80's of course)
But turns out I didn't actually make my college decision on football. Instead I chose on an opportunity for a great education and just ended up along for the ride sports wise.
I assumed you did.
Agree with your first two sentences. You kind of lost me after that.
Dont go to this blog for comedy purposes. But that's funny.
I'm all about protecting the Tradition that U of M proudly and rightfully owns. While I have reached the point that when I tune in to watch an Oregon football game, I expect "uniformz", I still expect, when I watch Michigan, to see "uniforms".
To see anything less then becomes a distraction from enjoying what I expect to see when I purchased my season tickets or turned the TV on. And I absolutely HATE distractions when it comes to Michigan Football!
Honestly, I wouldn't hardly notice the changes if people didn't make a big fuss about them. Then again, I have no fashion sense, nicely augmented by poor vision.
Personally, me, myself, in my own personal opinion, I would save the mother of all uniform changes until we meet Ohio State in a mid October classic.
I know right. Whatever happend to predictability, the milkman, the paperboy, evening TV?
I don't necessarily take pride in the tradition but dammit I love it. I love the fact that when I go see michigan play I'm seeing the winningest program in college football history. But I'm also young compared to most posters (I think anyways) and I see the "value" in not teeing the ball up at noon and changing the jerseys. I get the brand recognition and getting the brand out to people in different ways. I embrace night games for a few reasons and I welcome changes to the away jerseys (although I liked the UTL jerseys I believe the homes should be left alone). As long as the colors are maize and blue and the team represents michigan I'm all in!! Just don't start selling advertising space in the big house and don't fuck with the M
I reserve the right to be a hypocrite, though, and like an alternate away (not home) jersey that someone comes up with in the future. That has yet to happen, though.
"Do you really care or just really care about winning the pissing contest?"
I suppose I would phrase it like this - it bothers me to some extent that the athletic department of my alma mater tinkers with the brand of Michigan to a point where it seems as if things (like alternate jerseys) are done only because the demand for Michigan goods is relatively inelastic as college merchandise goes.
Like some others here, I don't mind a considered approach to the matter of changing the uniforms or alternative jerseys, but when it seems like things are being done because they can be done and for no other reason, and at the risk of diluting the brand (and it might be a long time before this happens admittedly), I do get concerned.
I wouldn't say this is some kind of pissing contest with other fanbases, but instead fans with a vested interest in the marketing of the school for whom they cheer, their alma mater, or whatever the connection may be. The Michigan brand, like few others in college football, is a nationally known and iconic brand that evokes a reaction that few brands do in that realm. People identify strongly with it, to a point where tinkering with it is tinkering with their own identity.
I can't be both?
Not for the pissing contest, but I genuinely care about our traditions. We are the winningest team of all time. We had some amazing years in our past, from the point a minute offenses of yost, to the dominance of the B10 during bo's years, from Desmond striking the pose, to Charles Woodson being the first d player to win the heisman, from our national championships, to having the biggest stadium in the country - these things make us Michigan.
Through all of those years, our jerseys remained largely identical - sure there were tweaks over time and he materials changed with technology but the changes were minimal and gradual. The jersey that Desmond wore during his heisman season is almost identical to that worn by Woodson during his. That jersey is a sense of identity. I always looked at the schools that regularly screwed around with their jerseys and though "I guess if you have no tradition, that's what you do" but I always thought we were above that gimmicky crap. Alabama, USC and Texas have traditions similar to ours and they keep their jerseys almost identical. Hasn't hurt them in recruiting. I dont understand why we want to be Oregon.
Also, sorry about so many of the snarky posts on this board. Some people just love to trash topics that don't fit their lofty standards. I like this topic.
Every year, my wife and I get excited when the new fall MDen catalogue arrives. (yeah, I know all of that stuff and more is available online but it has somehow become a tradition to wait until that catalogue arrives look at all the new stuff). The past few flyways we have been pretty disappointed - no cool new shirts, etc - just the same stuff as the prior year. New merchandise could probably make a ton more than some stupid one-off jersey that many people hate.
Just to clarify, there were no away uniforms in college football until the late 1950's. So while our away jerseys have half the life of our epic home ones, they still had very minor changes for over half a century. This of course, discounts the short lived 3 years in the mid-70's where they wore white pants. Numbers on helmets (which all teams had in the 60's), a stripe on the sleeves, and an extra number or block M on the shoulder. That's it.
I'm sorry but those are quite a difference from the Alabama game, the Sugar Bowl, the Outback Bowl and the MSU game. I'd give anything to go back to the piping being the major issue with the away informs.
I'd be happy to love one uniform, if someone could tell me which one of the dozen variations I have seen over the years is the "traditional" one.
I also like the matte look, and dislike the mailman walking on my damned lawn.
I would also reference this post: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/michigan-football-1960s-throwback-jerseys
I hereby cast my vote for these. They are actual uniforms we wore in recent history and would look badass as hell IMO with a little piping...
Based on the thread title, I think only someone named "Tradition" is supposed to answer the question.
Who labeled every post "trolling?" It's been a while since we've had a negbang thread!
fuck tradition, i'd sell my soul for a NC, just win baby
I feel Michigan's tradition is first great academics, winning, winged helmet, block M and finally Maize & Blue
So you're saying that an 12-0 season with a pink and purple 'Script M' would be more respectful of tradition than, say, 2008?
Ok Mike Valenti.
In fact, I really wish they would find a cure for breast cancer, because I am beginning to think the whole pink thing has been commercialized to fund too many "not for profit" salaries.
at Michigan Stadium with a serious buzz and a 17-3 halftime lead is a GREAT TRADITION.
Seriously, my 2 cents: Most UMers are passionate about striving for a standard of excellence - the football team is the most visible embodiment of that standard. We want to show up (or turn on the TV) every Saturday to support the Univ and its commitment to achieving the standard. Of course many fans just watch in the hope of seeing great players and great games, but they are not On Mgoblog.
Good kids, tough football players, 100% effort, fatherly coaches, classy maize & blue outfits, and winged helmets - these are the foundational factors that people associate with Michigan. The combination of those factors should win 80-90% of games and it will always represent UM well.
So, I definitely value the UM traditions.
As I heard Pat Forde once say "No fan base in college football looks in the rear view mirror more than Michigan"
So yeah, traditions are kind of a big deal
I grew up watching championships and heisman winners wearing the same uniforms... Id like to think our future achivements could be done in the same tradition...
Question for the OP: Take away tradition and what is left that makes Michigan Michigan?
Going down your list....
Great academics? Lots of schools do that.
Winning? Lots of schools do that.
Winged helmet? Now we're getting somewhere. But I suspect you will scream just as hard as most people are about the uniformz if the winged helmet changes, so you have no business calling everyone else out.
Right. You care about the helmet. I take it you'd be upset if that ever changed. So you have no right to tell people to stop complaining about the stuff they think defines Michigan. I doubt you consider the helmet just a thing to get in a pissing contest with other fans about.
Can you name even three schools that have traditionally had great academics and lots of wins, which are still winning today? I doubt it.
If this were the thought process that causes people to value the helmets, the obsession with this stuff would be a lot worse than I thought.
Texas, USC, ND.
USC didn't have Michigan-caliber academics until very recently, and I just forgot Texas, but ok.
Without arguing about rank among that bunch, Michigan is (say) top 4 in great academics + winning tradition. If you're from the Midwest and value those things, your options are Notre Dame and Michigan. If you aren't Catholic and value those things, you've got USC, Texas, and Michigan. If you prefer public schools and value those things, you've got Texas and Michigan.
It's really bizarre to me that the helmets could be what actually matters to people.
I mean, if you're talking top five in wins, there can't be more than five. It's like asking "name three teams that are in the top two of wins all time...."
And where is academic excellence? Only those better than Michigan? Again, it's like you're trying to create a question that the only answer is Michigan.
Other teams with better rated academics that have had some current success, and some historic success, respectively- Stanford (current, and a bit historically) and UCLA (historically, and some current).
Teams with close academics and good to great tradition that comes near Michigan (currently #29 on US News and Report's webpage...just a guide, not a hard and fast truth)-
#41 Wisconsin (current), #44 Miami (some history), #46 Penn State (Texas who we rank as "qualifying is tied for #46), Washington #46, #54 Florida, and yes, #56 Ohio State.
If you want to say Michigan is pretty special in its own right, you probably won't get much argument around here. To say no one else can claim to be a good school and have good programs isn't really fair though.
I think of Notre Dame and Michigan forming a natural class, academically at the top of the traditional athletic powers, but that does neglect USC (which I didn't know was a good school) and maybe Texas (which I thought was a better school than that ranking suggests). I tend to only pay attention to public schools when I look at rankings for what are basically political reasons, so I won't get into that, except to say that, among public schools, UCLA and Cal are the only ones that have consistently ranked as well as Michigan since I graduated high school. There's a difference between a good school and an elite one, and Michigan is genuinely elite (top 10 or better) in the areas that I care about.
So my thought process is this: Michigan is one of the top 3 public universities academically, and among a slightly larger handful (say, 10) of the top programs athletically. Since the other contenders are from regions of the country I don't particularly like visiting, I always took that to be reason enough to like Michigan. And now that I have multiple Michigan degrees and lots of history with Michigan, including the fact that my parents have multiple Michigan degrees, there's plenty to justify the extent of my fandom.
I really hadn't expected that the reason that people care so much about uniforms could be that the uniforms are a meaningful symbol (or even source) of their attachment to Michigan. It does explain the reactions to new uniforms, but jeez, it's just clothing.
Incidentally, in the rankings I care most about, Michigan is top 5, and has been for years. The best athletic programs at other schools in the top 10 are at North Carolina (fuck them), Stanford (which I could see myself being a fan of, were I from California), and then places like Pitt (no thanks) and Rutgers (woo B1G).
It strikes me that the reasons I like Michigan are pretty defensible. It has better academics or better athletics than the vast majority of schools in the country, and there are maybe 5-10 school tops that can compare on both dimensions. Ruling out the others for regional (e.g., USC because fuck LA) or other (e.g., ND because I'm not Catholic) reasons seems pretty good, and allows me to recognize that fans of lots of schools have equally good reasons for their fandom, without giving me any reason to think fans of MSU or OSU are on equal footing with Michigan fans. Seems like a good outcome.
Many of us went to school at Michigan, so Michigan will always be Michigan regardless of whether or not they make any changes to the uniform or helmet.
I really care. And because these traditions take 50-100 years to build and only a few years to ruin, the benefit of the doubt should go to the status quo unless you have a really good reason to throw it away.
This thread was a lot of fun to read. Thank you.
There are important parts of Michigan's tradition that I genuinely value (e.g., academic quality, commitment to being a university rather than a profit-seeking entity, etc.). But the important parts have nothing to do with uniforms. I do think that changing uniforms due to a profit motive is pretty lame, in that it takes Michigan's brand in a direction that abandons its most intrinsically valuable features. So I think there is less that differentiates Michigan athletics from other prominent athletic programs in a positive way today than there was when I was an undergraduate. That might just be get-off-my-lawn-ism, though.
how are the mgopoints determined and how do people rate comments?
you'll learn one day, kimosabe. you have to get 100 points first. but how to do that is a state secret.
You get one point for each post you make and two for making a thread, ten for making a diary, 100 for getting bumped to the front page. After one hundred points, you'll see a "moderate" button on the bottom of each post, with the ability to tag a comment with an adjective describing it (the "normal" you see is a generic stamp of approval); you'll also see more options on the left side by account data, including ability to author original posts or diaries.
As far as people rating comments, that's all up to the individual user. Some people downvote or upvote everything they see a certain user post, some try to give honest assessments for posts they think are good or bad, and some never use the feature.
how are the mgopoints determined and how do people rate comments?
You ever see Fight Club?
The first rule of MGoPoints is...
(Please neg me for breaking the first rule)
I'm all about tradition. I want Michigan to look like Michigan every game. I've seen countless uniform contest and Michigan is always in the top 5 every time. I live deep in Ohio and anything that gives fn buckeye fans another reason to laugh is just making my life more miserable. They are the worst fan base and we don't need to be giving them anymore ammunition. Leave well enough alone already.
Have those Ohio fans seen the Ohio uniformz?
I think people just really like to complain, honestly. I mean, I enjoy it a fair bit myself, no harm in that.
Dave Brandon doesn't even care about tradition and he played for freaking Bo.
When Michigan plays at home, we wear our iconic jerseys. It's not like we're Oregon or anything. If he really didn't care about tradition, don't you think he would be changing even more?
Brandon quoted Bo: "You’ll either get better or you’re going to get worse. You don’t have the opportunity to stay the same"
If pooping contests are measured in Courics, are pissing contests measured in Lauers?
If you are actually trying to facilitate a discussion, calling it a "pissing contest", and wording your post in a way that implies insult to those who you ask the question to, are poor ways to go about it.
Does anyone know how I can go about changing my username?
I don't give two SHITS about what happened a century ago! Why you go ask bout all dem feelings of mine? What comes before or after me, I don't care! Ya'll are nothin's in the i's of the EES-EEE-CEE!!
No but, aye I sayeth in favor of tradition...if you must know.
I can vouch that there are about 30000 students who probably don't care. Probably a few thousand don't even know how to play football. But WOAH SWEET UNIS THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE REGULAR ONES WOAH SO COOL
Heck, when I told some friends that the band marches down Hoover before the game and it's a good time to walk in, they were like "huh?" Probably don't even know the MMB's pregame lineup and have never heard Varsity in their life.
I've been going to games for 18 years since before I could walk though, so I might see things a little differently
You're talking about our culture. Why is it important? Well why do we make a big deal about anything other than food, water and shelter? We're symbolic animals and create meaning for the things we do because that's what makes doing them fulfilling.
Try going to a Lions game a day after a Michigan game and you'll understand exactly what football would be without tradition.
This is a permanate change people, Brandon is simply adding to the "Michigan" brand. The changes and alt, uniforms help attract new money and fans. We have to be able to change and adapt. Recruits these day like the new flashy look and the changes that are going on. We're not Alabama we can't just go into a recruits house right now and say hey look come here and you are most likely going to win a title. The main thing is money, with all the new changes going on with the athletic deptartment money has to come from all sorts of places. This isnt about this one jersey, in future years this is going to be the norm; different unifroms, neutral site games, night games, changing apperal compaines to whoever is the highest bidder, etc. I'm not saying this is 100% bad but in the current age where money determines everything this is how it's going to be. We live in a world where college football coaches almost have more power than university presidents.
...an annoyance to be trifled with during otherwise unavoidable occasions. This coming from someone living in ESS EEE SEE country, where I had to explain that yes, it is a big deal that Michigan plays its home games in the daytime (before 2011), and that no, no one ever thought there was anything wrong with that.
Tradition means you do something your way in spite of the way someone else might do that same thing. It becomes an identifiable trait that is recognized as being synonymous with you, not just among your colleagues, but among anyone else who knows anything about you. It matters.
It means that when you come in during the middle of "The Big Chill", even if you know nothing about the background of the movie, you recognize that it's Michigan playing in the college football game the characters are watching (Michigan football also makes a lesser-known cameo in "The Pink Panther Strikes Again" during a sequence involving a game being watched by...who else, President Ford).
So yeah, tradition matters...not because it's important to remind other fanbases who Michigan is (believe me, they're well aware and are likely tired of being reminded). Tradition matters because it's important that Michigan not forget who Michigan is.
And maybe it's because it was a part of the Michigan sporting culture; particularly, although I didn't know it at the time, Bo's turning down Texas AM to stay with a smaller salary at UM, and later, as AD, sending Billy Frieder packing prior to the BB championship after he signed a contract at ASU. I probably naively believed that winning came from resisting the temptations of greed and money, and it seemed that way after Fisher went on to win the championship. Someone posted that Bo wanted to ditch the helmet design when he first got to UM; I didn't know about that at the time either.
Carr appeared to continue the tradition of winning without giving in to the pressures of big-money college sports, although, in retrospect, the MNC in '97 and the seeming near-miss in '06 draw attention away from a sort of meh-ish 8-4 to 9-3 average overall, perhaps the price of resisting the pressure of big money.
Perhaps the NCAA game has given in to money in a way different from the big-money days of the '20'-60's. Perhaps TV has driven CFB away from the community-rich seeming democracy of a fans-in-attendance-driven sport to a TV-contract-advertising-revenue-driven sport, with the transition accelerating during the BCS years. The economic pressures drove cream-puff scheduling that produced 8-home-games-a-year, more fan revenue and shittier matchups.
Through all this, the new CFB economic system has forced ADs to compete to pay higher coaching salaries (look what happened going from Gerg to Mattison). Increasingly, the ditching of old niceties makes the unpaid status of athletes in revenue sports harder to look at as the role of money in determining the substance of the sport increases.
I can't predict the future. The viewership debacle for last year's MNC game gave me hope that the corporate side of CFB had at last gutted the goose with the golden eggs enough to maybe push the balance of power back to a more fan-oriented economic model, and that the pressure to abandon historic traditions and to conform to the featureless and faceless marketing of CFB without a sense of place or history would abate, but, as the latest clown uni business here shows us, we are not there yet.
Whatever happens, I think that it is natural that, as the thing I followed these past years changes to look less like what I know, that I will lose my emotional attachment to it. It is like going back to your old hometown -- the more it resembles the way you remember it, the more at home you feel, and the more it changes, the less it matters to you that you once belonged there.
I don't use tradition against other fans, I don't think. In fact, the more OSU fusses with their unis, the less that feels like The Game as I have known it since we got beat up in 1968 (I think that is the year that Woody settled on the uni that generations of M fans have grown to dread until the clowniform business got to them a few years back). Whether its ours or theirs, I am more likely to remember the black depressions that came from losing during my early teen years (unfortunately, there weren't that many big-game wins; just astronomic winning percentages capped by disappointment most years) if the unis remain reminiscent of those years. My life hinges less on these outcomes now; if modern corporate marketing tries to create a new brand identification with me now, there is a long way to go to match the passion I developed for the "tradition" over the years. This is doubly so if the new "brand" is a knock-off of the marketing precepts being used in every other geographic niche of the country.
Maybe changes in the sport will make it safe to cling to tradition before the economoic pressures of the last few decades have destroyed them all. What Michigan football's trappings and traditions will look like then, I don't know, nor do I know how I will react to it or how much attachment I will feel to it.
Why hasn't Dave Brandon started selling advertising in Michigan Stadium? It would probably make Michigan more money than another new jersey for compulsive fans to buy. It would probably also create less of an overall backlash than changing the jerseys. (I mean how many places have no advertising in their football stadium? Surely Michigan can do the simple things to keep up with the Joneses AMIRITE?)
Note that I detest both Michigan's frequent changing of jerseys and the idea of selling advertising in the stadium. Yet it's baffling to me that the away (and sometimes the home) jerseys are fair game to change each week while advertising in Michigan stadium is taboo.
Yes I actually care.
Nope, Brady Hoke's still the head coach. But keep trying!