tOSU 1970 National Champs?
The College Football National Championship may be Mythical... Interesting catch though on SI.com
Ohio State: Reinventing history
From my perch high in the press box at Ohio State on Saturday night, I was looking around the interior of the always-wondrous Horseshoe when I noticed something peculiar. On the facade beneath the upper deck of the north end zone, the school lists seven national championship seasons. One of them is 1970.
Some quick research reveals that in 1970, the Buckeyes finished second behind Texas in the coaches poll ... and fifth in the AP poll (which crowned Nebraska). According to the treasure trove that is College Football Data Warehouse, the title that Ohio State so proudly displays was bestowed by the National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame -- and even that one was shared with Texas.
Hey, as long as you're at it, Buckeyes, why not tack on 1969? No love for Matthews Grid Ratings? And what about that '73 banner from Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments? There's still plenty of room on that wall.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/09/13/CFB…
Also more research show:
Texas and Nebraska are clearly the winners of the 1970 Nat’l Championship w/ modern pollsters. ND and Arizona State also were award the NC by one or more sources – but they do not list the title.
Likewise Michigan was awarded the ’85 championship by a national source and they do not list it.
Also, tOSU was awarded the 2002 NC by referee Terry Porter, and Miami is kind enough not to list it in their stadium…(also USC was awarded it by three National Sources, and they do not list it either)…
September 14th, 2009 at 4:01 PM ^
good additional information on top of the link.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-osu-makes-its-own-history
September 14th, 2009 at 4:10 PM ^
got worked up, did more research to talk shit in an email - didnt see it on the board...
September 14th, 2009 at 4:14 PM ^
Yeah, was discussed earlier but claiming the 1970 NC is weak. They shared the National Football Foundation trophy with Texas. No other organization voted them NC that year. Weak.
September 14th, 2009 at 4:22 PM ^
Michigan won the 1985 NC on one of those polls too... yeaahh!!!
Go Blue!
September 14th, 2009 at 4:31 PM ^
You mean we have 12??!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSS
September 14th, 2009 at 4:39 PM ^
UNC does this in basketball. They claim to have won a national title in something like 1918.
You know, if Northwestern did this, you could understand it. If Clemson did this (in basketball), you could understand it. When you have no history, you cling to whatever you can.
But UNC in basketball and OSU in football??
That just diminishes your ACTUAL accomplishments.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:37 PM ^
OSU was beaten by Stanford with Jim Plunkett in the Rose Bowl after going undefeated in the regular season in 1970.
September 14th, 2009 at 5:49 PM ^
We also won it in 1973 in one of those polls. Two national titles for Bo!
September 14th, 2009 at 5:52 PM ^
Maybe OSU should commission their own poll, comprised solely of Olentangy-drinking OSU fans. Then, they could claim a National Championship every year.
September 14th, 2009 at 6:01 PM ^
If we're being honest, any national title before 1936 is pretty much invalid anyway.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:47 AM ^
Our 1948 National Championship is still considered controversial.
Both Michigan and Notre Dame claim the national title in their media guides. Notre Dame was voted the #1 team by the AP poll at the end of the season after beating USC; ND was declared national champion and did not play a bowl game.
Michigan, on the other hand, went out to the Rose Bowl, beat USC 49-0, and upon further review, the AP decided to vote post-bowl for the first time in history, and declared Michigan the #1 team in the nation.
With a quick search, mvictors has a nice writeup: http://mvictors.com/?p=519
I'm not trying to compare this creative OSU NC to our controversial NC, but I think its always an interesting bit of history to know.
September 17th, 2009 at 3:59 PM ^
which had some parallels to 1997, with retiring Fritz Crisler in the role of Tom Osborne. 1948 season was less controversial. Undefeated, untied Michigan was #1 and undefeated, untied Notre Dame #2 when the final poll came out. Notre Dame played a game in December after the poll and was tied by unranked USC. Undefeated and untied Army had been #3 going into the final week before the poll, but was tied by a Navy team that did not win a game all season.
Cal was undefeated in the regular season and #4 in the final poll, but then lost to Northwestern in the Rose Bowl (Michigan could not go because of the no-repeat rule). UNC was #3 in the final poll (undefeated with one tie) but lost to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:08 PM ^
1948 Rose Bowl for the 1947 National Championship. Thanks for clarifying!
September 15th, 2009 at 10:02 AM ^
Michigan might as well add 1973 to the list of years on the scoreboard, seeing as how Ohio State takes it upon themselves to award themselves a national title :-P
September 15th, 2009 at 7:03 PM ^
But I've always wanted us to do that to:
1. Say fuck you to the rest of the Big Ten
and
2. Give it as a final tribute to Bo.