A Top MSU Commit in Trouble; Reopens Recruitment

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Auston Robertson (#3 player out of IN, #9 WDE, #101 in the nation) was arrested in January for battery and faces misdeamenor charges. He apparently inappropriately touched a girl at school in October. He was already on thin ice after getting arrested in September for property damage.

Looks like Dantonio was willing to give him a 2nd chance, but the kid seems to have just screwed up again. Don't know about whether the offer is still there or not. 

In reply to by King Douche Ornery

BlueFish

February 4th, 2016 at 8:36 AM ^

Troll alert

You do know Clark was dismissed from the team as soon as he got in trouble?

EDIT: This was in response to the troll who posted about Frank Clark, not in response to Tater.  The trolling post was subsequently removed, which makes me look like an ass.




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Truthbtold

February 4th, 2016 at 10:40 AM ^

Beat his girlfriend & child's mother half to death, it's hardly the same as what this kid did. Clark was also a senior in college, not 17yrs old. MICHIGAN FOOTBALL IS NO.1 in PLAYER ARREST IN THE BIG 10 OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. They are the only school in the top 20 in arrest nationally in all the big 10. Another words, when it comes to criminals UM football is King. These are facts ! Not that the facts matter to you. Uploaded with Imgupr

MetricSU

February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^

over the last several years finds many more Michigan guys on it than MSU guys.

Nice to see you back on your high horse, Tater. You came running to mgoblog when your mlive predictions five years ago of Izzo's demise and how MSU football would shortly fall off the map were not realized. It must feel real comfortable over here, away from the real world.

Dantonio does the right thing by withholding the offer to see what comes of Robertson. Not surprisingly, on this board that's turned into a negative. But then, Dantonio is seriously in your heads. You really need a win over MSU next year.

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Truthbtold

February 4th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^

But this is just sour grapes over the ass whipping MSU has been putting on UM for the last 7-8 years. Sounds like a pussy's way of trying to tear down a team that's been beating their ass. Besides UM is No.1 in the Big in Player arrest over the last decade. The only Big10 school in the top 20 Uploaded with Imgupr

BursleyBaitsBus

February 4th, 2016 at 2:43 AM ^

RCMB seems to suggest MSU is waiting to hear on whether the charges will stick or be dismissed like the first go around in September. 

He had/has quite the offer sheet including Bama, Michigan, OSU, The U, Tenn and ND. 

Alumnus93

February 4th, 2016 at 7:51 AM ^

when he reinstates him, everyone possible with twitter must tweet "righteousness will prevail" and recapture the perceived moral high ground that they took with the little brother thing

schreibee

February 4th, 2016 at 8:11 AM ^

If he signs at another school it will be a great opportunity to see who has even lower standards than msu. And speaking for myself here, I'm perfectly willing to type out Miami and even humor this blog by adding YTM before I honor their desire to be known as "The U" - but 5 will getcha 10 that's where he goes, and without them waiting to see how the charges progess. Unless of course he can't leave the state of Indiana, and THAT'S why he had to "reopen" his recruitment!

schreibee

February 4th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^

Has any coach - EVER - taken that job and said "We're just gonna stay the course here and do what worked for Jimmy J and Ol' Larry Coke"?!

That's a pretty ingrained culture there now after over 30 years. I'll believe it changed when the smoke clears and there's no fire!

On the plus side, "The U" showed schools they can just say "F You" to the NCAA and there's not a Damn thing they can do about it... how hard did the penalties from the Navin Shapiro revelations hit that program? OH, right, there were NONE!

bacon

February 4th, 2016 at 7:13 AM ^

I'd say the opposite. It sounds like Dantonio said you're in if the charges don't stick. I.e. If you're not going to jail, you can play at MSU. Is that really an appropriate bar? I know, innocent until proven guilty and all, but this approach by MSU is not something anyone should condone, let alone be proud of.

MichiganTeacher

February 4th, 2016 at 7:52 AM ^

I find your blase dismissal of "innocent until proven guilty" disturbing. On the one hand, multiple separate accusations do create a natural doubt as to the accused's innocence. On the other hand, there is a reason people fought and died for "innocent until proven guilty," and there is a reason people regret the way the Duke lacrosse players, and very possibly LTT, were treated.

I think these cases need to be judged on an individual basis. They're tricky, no doubt. But I think fans should be more patient and wait to see how accusations turn out before demanding that heads and scholarships roll.

schreibee

February 4th, 2016 at 8:21 AM ^

Trust me professor, it wasn't msu "fans" who caused D'antoni to tap the brakes on signing this kid...fear of media backlash more likely. Perhaps your next dissertation should be excoriating the media for caring so much more about the 1st Amendment than the 7th...

Leaders And Best

February 4th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^

Innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with this. The standard for a university and a scholarship should be above whether or not someone is convicted of a crime. Even the Title IX guidelines are above that (see Brendan Gibbons or Logan Tuley-Tillman). I have seen many students expelled from schools for things they were never able to establish in a court of law.

EGD

February 4th, 2016 at 8:46 AM ^

Good point. And the standard for discussing a player arrest on a message board should be even lower, like "reported by a credible media source."

I'm not sure anyone really fought or died for the presumption of innocence. But even assuming someone did, that presumption only applies in a criminal prosecution. This message board will not be convicting him and sending him to jail.

jackw8542

February 4th, 2016 at 9:15 AM ^

Innocent until proven guilty is a product of criminal law intended to prevent innocent people from going to jail.  Society determined that it was a reasonable sacrifice to have some guilty escape justice by setting a high bar for conviction that would prevent having innocent people convicted.  It has nothing to do with whether higher standards of conduct should be imposed upon people seeking great favor.  A free college education is not an entitlement, and it is reasonable - many would argue essential - for colleges to set high standards of personal conduct for its scholarship athletes.

jmblue

February 4th, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^

Being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law =/= holding a scholarship to play football. The former is a constitutional right to all citizens; the latter is a privilege enjoyed by approximately 0.2% of Michigan students, and the standards expected of those who hold it can be more stringent.  

 

 

 

 

 

bacon

February 4th, 2016 at 9:31 AM ^

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal standard, not a societal one. I agree in most cases, but I think we shouldn't expect that colleges won't pull scholarship offers based on issues like this. Scholarships for athletes are very competitive and these situations are thankfully very rare, so if MSU wants to take their chances here it's on them, but I'm not going to praise Dantonio for it given his history.

WolvinLA2

February 4th, 2016 at 9:38 AM ^

I'm not advocating that. I'm just saying if you're going to be quick to criticize wrong doing, maybe you should recognize good. That's all I'm saying. Seems fair. And I'm not even saying Dantonio is doing the right thing here, because I don't know the whole story. But I like to think this board is objective, and we should be able to recognize when our rivals do the right thing in a situation. I would want our rivals to do the same for us.

San Diego Mick

February 4th, 2016 at 2:38 AM ^

and so damn glad that Harbaugh would never waste his time with any recruit that lacks charachter.

Those kinda guys can go somewhere else and fuck their lives up doing stupid shit when they have a wonderful opportunity waiting for them.

The Mad Hatter

February 4th, 2016 at 8:55 AM ^

According to the police report, Robertson was accused of inappropriately grabbing a female student at Wayne High School on Oct. 22.

Court records also show that Robertson was arrested on Sept. 10 with charges of criminal mischief, damaging or defacing property of another without consent) and resisting law enforcement. A hearing was held the same day and charges were dismissed.

 

Honestly, this sounds like fairly typical high school boy behavior.  I'm not saying it's right, or that he shouldn't face some consequences, but he's not exactly Hitler.

abcd123

February 4th, 2016 at 3:18 AM ^

The end of your post reminds me of the research paper that academic all-Big Ten member Terrelle Pryor wrote on research.

All jokes aside, I am completely with you. Regardless of where he was headed, the saddest thing in the world to see is wasted potential, and potential is one thing that this kid most certainly had. The silver lining in all of this is that his screwup will likely be to the benefit of another athlete who otherwise wouldn't have gotten a scholarship, maybe to a fringe player who they didn't have space for or, more likely, a walk-on who's been working endlessly and has stayed out of trouble for many years doing things the right way, then to another deserving player next year. It's a special thing to be the caliber of athlete that gets to play football at any Big Ten school, and it's a shame that he threw it away with his poor decisions.

Hopefully Robertson can get his act together before his behavior leaves him in prison or worse, and stops harming other people, which is by far the worst part of all of this. Very sad story.