GBW confirmed that a freshman is out the door but coaches haven't released the name yet.
Tony Posada to Transfer
Mgouser vbnautilus at the end of the thread with the link http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/spokesman-true-freshman-offensive-lineman-tony-posada-has-left-the-michigan-football-program/?cmpid=RSS_link_um_football
"#Michigan Freshman OL Tony Posada has left the team (via @mikerothstein)"
Your attempt at being vague was almost a success right up until the very end. This won't end well.
please stop. Until anything is official, this is the only sign pointing to Tampa on this board.
I remember seeing that sign in 99 on my way to spring break for my senior yr in HS...it was a nice sign to see coming from michigan in april.
If you label it a "rumor" no one will believe it. You have to say "according to sources." Then you can say whatever shit you want.
i want to play.
sources: rumors shouldn't be believed
Rumor:your sources are incorrect
incorrect: your rumor, not my sources
Sources: Turd Ferguson defeats Gobluegr
Rumor: Gobluegr has demanded a rematch.
I'm glad you I gave you guys a comment to have some fun with, but I thought we weren't supposed to speculate on current players transferring, being ineligible, having legal issues, etc. I wasn't commenting on the validity of the source.
Making us-23 look like I-96.
He came in way out of shape and based on the recruiting rankings he knows he's not likely to see the field if this class holds up. Still a position we don't have much depth at, again IF this rumor is true.
I hope this is not true, as I had high hopes for Tony. I hope that he finds success elsewhere.
To look on the brightside of this, I suppose this opens up one more scholarship to help get to the 26-28 recruits for the 2012 class.
but possibly the only freshman thats leaving.
Nope, never happened.
He transferred $200 from savings to checking.
Wait... what were you guys talking about?
Oh, how I wish this thread would turn into another Lloyd Brady photoshop competition . . .
General Board Question.....
Is it not permissable to post rumors about our own players but it is ok to post stuff about other team's players? It seems like when an unsubstantiated rumor about somebody else's roster is posted it's generally considered ok and discussed but when something goes up on a Michigan kid we're not allowed to talk about it.
To me this is where the old point system was so valuable. If the OP is right...shower him with mega points for breaking the story first. But if he's wrong - then it's a one way ticket to Bolivia instead. High risk vs high reward.
People are so concerned about rising above "lol internets blog" status they seem to forget that this is indeed a message board. Leave the journalistic standards to Brian and his minions. If rumors are labeled as such and can be somehow connected to a legitimate source . . . I say go right ahead. If people go too far or are repeat offenders its nothing a little banhammer can't fix.
we're a select group that understands what terms like 'derp' mean and know to take things with a grain of salt. allowing free posting allows casual observers to take these things as truth. further, 'mature' posters know to wait and see and, at worst, then say why they did or did not like said player. trolls/idiots will see 'insert name' left and call him a "(insert adjective) (noun) who never would have played. god i (profanity ending in 'ing usually possessing the f word in some form) hate that kid. those who stay."
and then the kid stays and/or reads it.
it's just unneccessary bullshit lending to the notion the internet has led to a sense of entitlement - that we need to know NOW, whether true or not, what someone thinks about someone. shit gets broken quite often by better sources than 'i hear on another site rumblings that...'
I agree with some of that, and it takes us back to the OP longing for the old pos/neg-bang system. A lot of trolling can be eliminated with a good moderation system.
I'm not sure I agree with self-censoring just because a casual observer might "take these things as truth." A casual observer might look at the front page and think MGoCommunity friggin loves Freekbass.
I think it's a fine line and we just disagree on it's precise location in the proverbial sand.
You can take Geaux_Blue out of the moderating but you can never take the moderator out of Geaux_Blue.
(I agree with you Geaux, for whatever its worth.)
Shouldn't you change your signature line? Granted you freed FuMan Blue back in the day but under our new points system it seems like the Bolivian threat is completely gone. As is the possibility of another pos-bang party like the one that freed our "criminal" friend FuMan for that matter.
Probably so but I'm like an old man stuck in the good 'ole days. I can't let go.
The front page post by Brian himself is a summary of rumors regarding the scrimage. There have been numerous rumors/ second or third hand accounts of how player X or Y is doing.
If we only wait for something official, we should just all read ESPN.
As long as a rumor is clearly indicated as such and the "source" is posted, it should be fair game. That's the whole point of having user generated content. If the source is just some dude, then as a mod, you should put in big bold letters that the rumor is most likely junk.
I agree with this, especially when it comes to rumors that are easily proven true or false, like someone transferring. If someone starts a rumor that Tony Posada has transferred and we see him on the sideline in uniform Sept 3, then no harm, no foul. If someone starts a rumor that Troy Woolfolk blew out his ankle but someone sees him running around at practice the next day, again no harm, no foul.
The problems are when someone says "I saw player X at a party the other night and a girl I know says he raped her friend he's such an asshole." Those are things that won't be proven one way or another and could kill someone's reputation. If there is a police report to back it up and he gets kicked off the team, then it can be reported.
In other words, some topics are rumor-friendly, others not so much.
I completely agree. Also if you are going to start a rumor thread don't tip toe about it, lay it on me with every last detail you can summon up from your other message boards. It falls under the SIAP category for me. If you post it you should own it.
SIAP is so worthless... it does not alleviate your obligation to check if it's already been posted, nor does is ward off the ensuing neg bomb if it has already been posted.
this board does not post 'i know a guy who said' crap about players on other teams - it is always based upon a published report, etc. the only stuff worth pos-bangs, as you postulate as a reward, are those things that have very significant effects on the team, are conclusively true and prove at the time of posting AND can be pushed as an exclusive. this would be recruits, injuries and CONFIRMED departures. it is not 'hey i saw this on another board, any truth to it?' - it's stuff tied to direct, credible sources.
this thread sums up my feelings (my comments, not the OP)
It's not Chris Bryant and it's an OL who's transferring. It's not that the guy who is transferring is done with Michigan Football, it's that he's done with football altogether. As Tony Posada and Jack Miller are the only other OL recruits from last year, and Jack Miller's younger brother has been mentioned as inetersted in Michigan very recently, it looks like it is Tony Posada who is leaving. Nothing confirmed obviously, but that's what it looks like.
There is an ESPN Insider post that says "Michigan backup QB could see some playing time."
Does anyone know what they are talking about? Remember, information is not copyrightable, just the format that it comes in.
Basically it says Gardener will play some to start the year even though Denard will be healthy. Borges thinks it's is good for the team and will keep Denard fresh. It is a quote from a Freep article.
All it says is that Gardner is having a great camp and Hoke wants to get him some playing time early because it's good for him.
Very standard, nothing new nothing significant.
Goes on to say that Denard is having a great camp as well and is clearly the starter..
*Puts on rosy optimism glasses*
Yep, Gardner will see some playing time early when we blast a couple of our first few opponents into Bolivian and can give Denard a lot of rest and Gardner some experience with our four touchdown lead in the fourth or late third quarter.
(Please let that be the case).
If it is Posada, that's a tough loss but you wish the kid well. As for whether or not this rumor should be mentioned yet, I'm on the side of publishing it provided you have a legitimate source. Sounds like initially it was vague, but now confirmed.
the OP tried to indicate who it was using directionals and funny language. it's still unsubstantiated
Nope. Once a rumor thread has more than 30 replies, the rumor is true. This is fact.
Not so. There have been many posts with over 30 replies suggesting OSU played football last year, when in fact they did not.
Aha - suggesting. It takes at least 120 posts for a suggestion to be true.
I like where your head is, but the truth of the matter is OSU did play Wisconsin. You can look it up. It's in the record books and everything. The ones that count real games.
Now it's double true.
What if the OP is actually the source?
That means...THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON!
What if the rumor itself is transferring?
So, you got it all figured out, do ya? You couldn't leave well enough alone?
....I was actually in the middle of figuring out who Keyser Soze was, and then for some reason, a totally unrelated thought came to me....
I'm just kidding, LSAClassOf2000, I have no idea what is going on.
I wish I knew what was going on myself. Every time I see the word "rumor", my first inclination is to ask which bar the author of the OP was at when they heard the "rumor".....
quoted Chris Griffin twice right there and it completely fits.
It shows that I knew even less than you did. The wife hasn't let me watch too much "Family Guy" since the kids were able to quote the "Bird Is The Word" episode verbatim.
if the kids can quote that episode verbatim, you should have known what my quotes were of haha
.....if I could only pay attention to the TV and clean up Mac and Cheese stains while ranting about how there's never enough Resolve at the same time.
I think we need to add another MGoTier. We have the front page (Tier 1), the Diaries (Tier 2), the Board (Tier 3), and I think we need an MGoRumorMill (Tier 4).
/teasing (but not really - everyone loves a good rumor!)
This is legit. The Peter Griffin image isn't far off, either.
what you're implying about my Peter image from earlier. But....
So long Tony. I remember seeing Bell at the media day video walking up the bleachers. Now relay this info to Diamond's mom.
It still sounds like Bell is gone as well. He has been in the dog house with the past 95 coaches that he has had and he is the one constant in that equation.
I mean if the Peter Griffin image isn't far off then it cant be Chris Bryant and now that I look at Tony Posada he looks a lot like Peter Griffin
And this is distinct from the possible transfer you mentioned earlier?
You mean he's fat, or he keeps getting into fights with a human-sized chicken?
Stokes? He's selling furniture via twitter.
yea I saw that he is one of my fav players still can't see why he can't get on the field at all
That would be ill-advised for him. He realizes that we just lost one of the receivers ahead of him and we lose three guys after this fall, right? Unless he's way down the depth chart...but how far down can he be? We don't have that many receivers.
Let's say next fall he's behind everyone but true frosh (unlikely), he'd only have Roundtree, Stonum, Gallon, Dileo, Jackson and Robinson ahead of him. Sure, that's a lot, but I bet he could jump one of those guys, and one more will get injured for at least a few games.
Anyone else think that this class size could reach the max of 28? We are sitting at 25 right now, so I don't think it is that much of a stretch. If nothing else, 26 is happening for sure.
Does your 25 assume Cox and TRob don't get 5th years? Although I agree that's likely, it's not a done deal yet.
Also, to get to 28 we'd need at least three of the guys to be early enrollees. Do we know of any EEs other than Wilson?
I have us at 24 right now without counting Cox and TRob as options. 28 seems like a reach but so did 26 a month ago.
Huh, when I counted I got to 23 without 5th year guys. I'll have to count again.
EDIT: I just counted again and I got 62 scholarship guys with eligibility left in 2012, meaning 23 open spots. The Depth Chart by Class confirms this.
Are you still counting Isiah Bell as here? Trying to figure out how I have one more.
Nope, I counted again and I did not include Bell. Are you not counting Stonum? Anyway, if you go up to the Depth Chart by Class under Useful Stuff at the top right, they list everyone. I've counted that list three times now, and every time I do it, I get 62 not including Bell (who's still listed).
EDIT: Can someone else weigh in on this? Third opinion please.
i think its william campbell. (not a freshman)
If it's true, there is a certain coach whose father talks with a lisp who will probably have a scholly waiting for him when he gets home.
A Michigan athletic department spokesman confirmed Monday that true freshman Tony Posada has left the Wolverines' football program.
MGoBlue.com has not removed his profile from week 1 of their 'Getting to know the Football Freshmen' series.
what is usually the standard amount of attrition at a normal program each year? Are we above normal, or do most programs usually lose 5 or so every offseason?
Attrition has been remarkably low this offseason, especially given the change in coaching staffs. It's been pretty high the last couple of years, though.
Sorry for the triple post my cpu was acting up.
I live about 2 miles from Plant High in Tampa and I jog around that area often. I did a double take the other day because I swore I saw Posada. My first thought was "Damn, Plant grows some serious big dudes." Hell, it might have been him. This is not good as I was hoping we would get an "in" into one of the best talent producing high schools in Florida.
I hate it when rumors become reality involving anything to do with Michigan football.
unless that rumour is that the school is supplying the team with shoes made of Dilithium crystals....