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January 17th, 2011 at 11:56 PM | Ha I was right (Score:1)
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where's my cookie?

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:59 PM | And, isn't Flowers visiting (Score:1)
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And, isn't Flowers visiting this weekend or next? Just makes this more odd...

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:04 PM | What's (Score:1)
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What's Singletary's role now? 

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:29 PM | He'll either be reallocated (Score:1)
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He'll either be reallocated within the football program/athletic department or dismissed altogether.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:39 PM | After this let's hope he's (Score:1)
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After this let's hope he's dismissed...

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:49 PM | I think you're overestimating (Score:1)
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I think you're overestimating the role of the recruiting coordinator.  By almost all accounts, Chris Singletary has done a pretty awesome job.

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January 18th, 2011 at 12:07 AM | True I put the blame on the (Score:1)
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True I put the blame on the wrong guy. It just makes little sense to me.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:49 PM | How is this Singletary's (Score:1)
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How is this Singletary's fault?  Isn't he just relaying the message from the coach.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:51 PM | Interesting. (Score:1)
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When was it decided to get rid of Singletary?

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:59 PM | In the last day or so.  It's (Score:1)
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In the last day or so.  It's a recent development.  Hecklinski is taking over.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:16 PM | We have twenty ships available.... (Score:1)
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We have twenty ships available, with only 11 commitments I am disappointed with this decision.  The kid has ability and wanted to be a "Michigan Man".

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January 18th, 2011 at 1:43 AM | Chris Singletary is a stand (Score:1)
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Chris Singletary is a stand up guy whom I know personally and I doubt very seriously that he would ever tell a kid something false if it wasn't a direct order from the coach. Besides by all accounts he will still hold on to his position.

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January 18th, 2011 at 1:57 AM | Yeah, I was joking when I (Score:1)
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Yeah, I was joking when I said that about Singletary.  I think he's done a good job.

But The Wolverine says that Singletary is out as the recruiting coordinator.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:06 PM | Gosh (Score:1)
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Why?

Hoke better have freakin sammy watkins lined up.(yes i realize this won't happen)

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Lucien (Score:1)
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You can play WR.

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Well,...just another crap day (Score:1)
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Well,...just another crap day for Michigan football,.... Lucien a no go, still no DC..........Oh Well...The only WR we had commited is going juco at this time.... man,....what gives...!

 

Oh Well...there's always tomorrow.

Let's GO BLUE
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January 17th, 2011 at 10:56 PM | Interesting site on oversigning. (Score:1)
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www.oversigning.com

 

also...specifically the SEC's signing numbers over the years:

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:57 PM | Not sure why we would not (Score:1)
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Not sure why we would not want to recruit a highly-regarded kid at WR when we'll be losing several guys going into the 2012 season.

That quote from Lucien makes me feel like crap.  Ugh.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

- Jack Handey

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:58 PM | Doh (Score:1)
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Yeah um so well um you see um I'm confused about this decision.

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January 17th, 2011 at 10:59 PM | Full House (Score:1)
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I'm thinking this means the full house backfield is the future offense...

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:02 PM | certainly feel bad for Lucien (Score:1)
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certainly feel bad for Lucien did he say anything about where he may be looking now?

Current Smug rating: "lethal"

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:07 PM | Keep it in your pants Irish. (Score:1)
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Over my dead body will this kid go to ND and play WR!

Pip pip, cheerio! Let's go BLUE!

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | not something you should need (Score:1)
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not something you should need to sacrifice yourself for, that is some real dedication you have though haha

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:07 PM | UCLA, Colorado, Miami (Fl), (Score:1)
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UCLA, Colorado, Miami (Fl), Arizona State, Kentucky

http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1177673

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:08 PM | From what I've read (Score:1)
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He's probably a UCLA lock

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:13 PM | thanks guys (Score:1)
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thanks guys

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:02 PM | I hope to see a Hello: (Score:1)
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I hope to see a Hello: Flowers post here soon!

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:02 PM | Don't listen to him Lucien! (Score:1)
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Don't listen to him Lucien! We want you at WR! He doesn't know what he's talking about!

UM football is my heroine

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:04 PM | ಠ_ರೃ (Score:1)
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I'm obviously insightful as hell... and I'm still clueless by this move with Lucien.

Pip pip, cheerio! Let's go BLUE!

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:07 PM | WR / DB (Score:1)
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What am I missing?  We have Countess / Hollowell and Brown committed at DB but we don't have any wide receivers.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:17 PM | To be fair we do have like 16 (Score:1)
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To be fair we do have like 16 WR's including slot dots. That is some serious overkill for one position. I have heard that Flowers is locked up. This seems to validate what I heard.

I really do feel bad for Devin though. If they were only taking one, I like Devin better myself.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:09 PM | Would Frost be recruited as a (Score:1)
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Would Frost be recruited as a WR?

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:30 PM | I think the situation when RR (Score:1)
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I think the situation when RR was still here was that Kris would be given the opportunity to try WR, I'm not so sure, given the Lucien story, that this would be the case now. Lucien and Frost seem like tremendous talents, and I'd rather have them at WR here instead of pushing them out of the door because the coaches went them on defense.

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January 18th, 2011 at 8:59 AM | That's what my first thought (Score:1)
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That's what my first thought was...we were holding this WR slot for Frost. Since the pro style doesn't require as many slot ninjas as RR's system, BH was starting to ween our #s down to a more manageable number....1 WR for this class....Frost and then Flowers as a back up.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:10 PM | We want you to be a (Score:1)
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We want you to be a DB.

Translation-We don't have the balls to withdraw an offer, but you're not wanted here.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Hello Deanthony Arnett? (Score:1)
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Hello Deanthony Arnett?

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January 18th, 2011 at 12:22 AM | Hmmmmm interesting thought (Score:1)
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Hmmmmm interesting thought there.

When did your mother let you out of the basement Mr. Rosenberg?

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | Doesn't make any sense (Score:1)
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Lucien was recruited pretty hard by SDSU.  So, I cannot fathom that "you're not wanted here" would be the reason they are Peace'ing on Devin.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Ahh the DeWayne Peace treatment.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | Takes big ballz (Score:1)
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Wow, Lucien not a receiver?  They must be looking for DB's with some size, that's probably why Dallas Crawford took off.  Lucien was my favorite WR recruit this year, he was coming to AA for sure.  Ouch!  Frankly, we'll be fine without a WR in this class, BH is clearly committing to defense.

Slight problem with Frost here.  There's no way BH is telling him he can start out at receiver if he dissed Lucien, that's probably the only thing that has prevented his commitment after Auburn bitched him.  Frost needs to accept his fate as a linebacker, it will make him millions.  He's vitally important to this class, SIGN HIM UP!!!

"Those who stay will be champions"

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:23 PM | A lot of people on this board (Score:1)
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A lot of people on this board complained about defense and where were the defensive recruits.  Personally, I don't understand this move by Coach Hoke, unless he has someone locked up.  Of course, I don't have 20 years of coaching experience.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Maybe that's exactly what BH (Score:1)
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Maybe that's exactly what BH is doing here. If Lucein and Flowers were to commit it would be obvious that Frost stood no chance at playing WR, BH knowing this and i guess prefering Flowers and only wanting one WR in this class he decides to let Lucein go. In perspective it looks like a depth chart Frost could move up in a year, 2011 sees Frost red shirt and BH goes hard after a few 2012 WRs and tells Frost that if he wants to make it to the NFL it's going to be at LB thus forcing Frost to switch in the offseason. In this scenerio Forst is an all american LB for four years, and the WR depth chart looks like a naked swim suit model to top talent recievers in 2012.

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January 18th, 2011 at 12:00 AM | Good lord man! (Score:1)
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Joined: 01/12/2011
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Forst is an all american LB for four years

This is quite a prediction and my heart can't take much more teasing like this (although I hope it'll be true).

Pip pip, cheerio! Let's go BLUE!

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | I feel terrible for the Devin... (Score:1)
GoPackGo
Joined: 11/23/2009
MGoPoints: 441

and this move defies logic...from a numbers standpoint and from a talent standpoint...Tom, at least if you talk to Devin again make sure he knows the Mich fanbase wanted him here...BADLY

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:50 PM | Posted from PC (Score:1)
bluewings
Joined: 11/17/2010
MGoPoints: 510

I was excited about him coming to Michigan.  Going to sleep bummed out.  I hope for good news tomorrow.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | I'm depressed... (Score:1)
gObLuE1992
Joined: 01/12/2011
MGoPoints: 1193

I'm depressed...

 

 

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:25 PM | head scratcher re Lucien (Score:1)
J. Lichty
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1134

also head scratcher - why if Frost loved the school so much - before RR was fired said he would come regardless of the coach - and the change is actually better for him on either side of the ball - why he is still hanging on Auburn's jock.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:27 PM | I guess wanting to be at (Score:1)
bsand2053
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Joined: 04/14/2010
MGoPoints: 1645

I guess wanting to be at Michigan isn't enough anymore.  He might have even known the words to the Victors!

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January 17th, 2011 at 11:27 PM | I feel for Devin...that will (Score:1)
HoldTheRope
Joined: 11/04/2009
MGoPoints: 221

I feel for Devin...that will inevitably happen throughout the course of a coaching change. I don't think WR is an enormous need but a player of that apparent caliber is hard to turn away. The clock is ticking, hopefully the staff can get in gear and make some things happen with this class. 

http://holdintherope.blogspot.com/
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January 17th, 2011 at 11:27 PM | Anyone?? (Score:1)
dennisblundon
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Joined: 02/23/2010
MGoPoints: 6631

While we are on the subject of things that don't make sense. Why did the staff recently offer two guys that have been committed to Tennessee for some time now and both are firm commits?

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