B-b-but the internet never lies...
B-b-but the internet never lies...
Doens't seem like a big deal at all.
Irrationally blew up an issue there was little to no direct knowledge of? I am shocked!
I am shocked! Shocked to see that there is gambling going on here.
Your winnings, sir.
Thank you very much.
I'm not sure why you're getting negged, some people need to check their sarcasm meters.
You can say that again.
Good to hear. Hopefully he is Blue in the end. This really shows the power of twitter though, one little tweet and the whole fan base is up in arms whether or not this kid is a head case.
Yeah, someone tweeted a fact and people started making inferences over it. There was no video, there was no interpretation, just word of mouth spreading like wildfire. It's so easy to speculate.
Pike is the kid I would like most at Michigan of our recruits because not only a great prospect but also someone who wants to bring other top players to wherever he goes. I think he'll be a great QB for whoever gets him.
I bet his body language and comments under his breath may have had something to do with it. I can't believe he just tossed the ball to the ref and was kicked out. It also could have been a build up of a lot of little things. I understand his frustration. I like his competitiveness, but I hope in the future that he can channel that positively between the whistles.
The fact that the ref caught the ball tells me something. Any of us who have ever played (and carried the ball) have been frustrated and tossed the ball a little bit harder while mumbling something. It is a lot different that chucking the ball with the intent of hitting a ref. I am sure if this kid was really throwing the ball at the ref with that intent, he would not have caught it except on hte chin.
When the story first dropped, the ensuing firestorm made it seem as if a helpless official's back was turned while he took a bullet between the ears from a frustrated Pike.
Nobody but those present can say what actually took place, but this is probably not a big deal in February.
I don't know why you are getting negged. There is obviously something missing from his version of the story. You don't get thrown out of a game for toss a ball a little harder than normal. Maybe he swore while doing it, maybe it wasn't his first act of frustration that day.
That said, whatever he did was still probably blown out of proportion by the ref and the internet.
The ref he threw the ball at didn't throw the flag. On the flip side: why didn't the ref let the other ref know if it wasn't thrown too hard.
Of course I've seen refs cover for each other because they don't want to look incompetent as a group.
Until we hear from the ref or some other reliable source, we won't ever really know.
but I've played competitive sports all my life and lost count of the times I've gotten too emotional over it. So IF he tossed the ball a little harder than necessary, I can understand that. Maybe one day he'll cost the team a 15-yard unsportsmanlike penalty. No big deal... I'll take an intense kid on my team any time.
It isinteresting though that people negged "The Impaler" for suggesting the possibility that he kid was indeed frustrated. It's always "you don't know this kid, so don't judge him". That is 100% true, but it seems okay to assume the official was full of crap, and we don't know HIM either. Just a thought.
I don't know guys, we may not want to recruit a QB that gets thrown out of games every time he throws the ball...
I love hearing that he'll be up in Ann Arbor a few more times. Get to work Borges & Co., this is a big one.
hide yo kids, hide yo wife cuz they raping err body out here.
It is never a good situation when a player throws a ball at a ref, it really throws his character into question. Once again, the double standard of "it's alright if it's our recruit, but not if it's an OSU/ND recruit."
The truth, of course, lies somewhere in the middle of what was reported at the event, and what Pike is saying after the fact.
the truth doesn't always lie in the middle of everything. Sometimes one side is just wrong or a liar.
maybe he's just a really competitive guy...even in a 7 on 7 game. I don't know about you, but I like super competitive players...they want to win BAD!
Not likely a character issue, but I'm hoping it's the former.
I heard John Elway is so competitive that he once lost a game of pool to a teammate. The next day he bought a new table and trashed the other one. You have to be a little crazy to win, I guess. See Rick Reilly's article for evidence: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2002/08/13/life_of_reilly/
It is totally surprising to me that Tom VH would be the only one to date to get ZP's take on what happened, and by "totally" I mean "not in the least bit".
I bet he put a little extra mustard on the toss and the ref didn't relish having to catch that pass. No doubt he was just hot dogging a bit, lets not make concessions here that might ketchup to us later.
Thanks for this, Tom. In Pike news, there were some reports that Arkansas has vaulted to the top of his list after a recent visit. Have you heard anything from Zeke on that?
Of course his interpertation of events is less harsh, but other observers there stated that whatever he did did not warrant an ejection.
It was just the normal freak out by someone who knew hey I can get page hits/retweets if I say Pike ejected for going all varsity blues on the ref.
non issue/please come to Michigan.
completely uncovered and/or wide freaking open on virtually any play.
They probably won't flag you for throwing the ball at them in a game, unless you rifle it and hit them square on the back of the numbers. Yeah, then they'll be upset.
Unfortunately for him he was rumored to have had an issue in his last playoff game as well. I'm glad he was able to shed some light on it. He'll continue to grow.
Thanks for the details. I started the thread yesterday about him getting thrown out. I didnt think it was that big a deal. Glad for the clarification. I am also glad he will be visiting AA a few more times. Just hope he can control his emotions in the future. He has the spot light all over him now so anything he does will be put under a mircroscope.
As is clear from everyone elses comments, this was not a big deal for me either. I think there are other things to consider when wondering about a guy's character. Plus, there was no doubt that the other side of the story would be deflating to all the internet hype.
I was hoping it was like on Varsity Blues when Mox hits the mascot in the face!
No- this is perfect! Now everyone (but Michigan) pull your scholarship offers and he will have no choice (hehehe)
He just went higher on MSU's "gotta have" board.
Not to steal your thunder - and I have plenty of issues with the dudes over at Rivals - but Josh Helmholdt put up a post several hours ago in which he relayed Pike's take on the situation. So while I always +1 TomVH and think he does a great job, there have been others who went straight to the source as well.
It should also be known that several players were kicked out for fighting. Zeke was not the only event that happened, but being a high-profile QB he was "twitter-bombed".
Once I found out about the fist fights, I was surprised that it did not get a single mention on twitter. I guess that is the territory of being a national recruit.
Zeke, everyone that is a michigan fan wants you to come here. So please come!
I remember when Brett Favre did this in an NFL game and hit the ref in the head. Not a big deal if that's how it went down.
Although his account of it is "just tossed the ball to the ref" he probably added a little heat to it out of frustration. Still not that big of a deal but yeah.
I am a transplant to the Cincinnati area and have heard many things about Zeke. Its funny that someone mentioned Ryan Mallett earlier because that is exactly the comparison I made this year when I saw him play. This type of incident isn't the first, second, or third, just the most recent. He was thrown out of a playoff game this past year, got into a screaming match with his coach on the sideline, etc. I'm not sure he fits as a Michigan Man, I for one will be pulling for him to go somewhere else.