TomVH: LB Jeremiah Tshimanga Update
All your Tshimangas are belong to us
Yes! He's a must have!
All your Tshimanga are belong to us.
EDIT: You beat me but I have a picture. So there.
I'm just so excited 'bout another Tshimanga
Tom did you tell him about the laying waste of OSU that is his birthright?
If you tell me this kid's middle name is Biakabutuka, I will shit my pants, and for the first time in the history of pants-shitting, be pleasantly happy about it.
His middle name actually is Biakabutuka.
(Not really, I kinda just want you to shit your pants.)
Chris Barnett seemed like a huge pickup on signing day. It's starting to seem even bigger every day...
He seems like an uber recruiter for Michigan. He finds a way to be mentioned by a lot of recruits. Hopefully he is very influential!
He has a pretty cool highlight video here:
For the ranking obsessed out there, Tshimanga is currently the 22nd ranked prospect in Texas by Orangebloods (Texas Rivals' Site). That would have been good for a low 4-star last year.
Texas signed 3 LBs last year, and has one committed this year (Peter Jinkens, who had a Michigan offer as well). Scout is reporting Jinkens is the only one they've offered thus far. Their eligibility chart shows a relatively small number of LBs.
Conclusion: He could very well end up with a UT offer
Texas actually has 2 LB commits already this year.
Jinkens and Alex De La Torre
I completely forgot about De La Torre
Does Tech and A&M figure into his recruitment?
Edit: I just check the rivals site for texas A&M and they already have 15 recruits. I guess they are really pressuring kids to commit early.
Certainly, as do many other schools. I'm a lot more afraid of Texas than A&M, Tech, or most of the Big 12, though.
not only do they have 15 recruits already, they took back their offer to LB peter jinkens(one of the reasons why he committed to texas so early) and jinkens was probably higher up on their board. unless texas pulls off a miracld and drags tim cole away from atm, i imagine their recruiting at the LB position is done.
Geez, number 22 and a four star? Thats a deep state...it seems like no one outside the top 5 get 4 stars in Michigan.
Ohio could be a lot like that this upcoming year..
Michigan HS football isn't very good. The year McGuffie came out the Houston area had 150 D1 players alone. The state of Michigan is lucky to get 40 in a very good year. This is why all the worry about recruiting the state makes me laugh. I know it's important to lock up the top guys, but you're not going to win many Big Ten titles yet alone NCs relying on the state of Michigan for your football talent.
Michigan's still better than a lot of states, though. Compared to the states that surround it, Ohio is the only one that contains more talent on a regular basis (Illinois and Michigan are about even). That being said, recruiting nationally is more important.
At least, not in the modern era. So I don't think anyone is saying "gee, as long as we get Cass Tech locked down we'll be back in the hunt!"
The concern is that by not recruiting well enough in-state, we cede key players and schools to in-conference rivals, like Little Brother. Part of consistently competing for Big 10 titles is protecting our turf. The other part is successful recruiting in recruiting goldmines, like Texas, Florida, Southern California and--most of all--Ohio.
The last couple years with Lloyd, and the 3 with Rich, were at best uneven in terms of recruiting. Some superstars, sure, but we didn't just reload the way we did under Bo, Mo or for 10 or so of Lloyd's years. I think this past recruiting class was a good example of necessary triage, but the end result was another uneven year. We got some good players, and a lot of bodies on defense, but we didn't get a ton of top-flight talent. Hopefully I'm wrong about that.
What I did like, though, was that it felt like the coaching staff were setting themselves up well for 2012. Aggressively recruiting both in and out of state for top talent, I'm enthusiastic about where we're headed, and think we'll have one of the best classes in terms of talent that we've put together for years, even if it's on the small side.
Obviously still remains to be seen whether this is the case, and even if it is, whether Hoke's staff can sustain it over time.
Texas has so much talent every year, being #22 is pretty impressive. Reel him in. With a name like that, how can he NOT turn into a star here.
If he's 226 in that film he's very quick for his size. I was very surprised at how quick his first few steps are for a guy that size. And at 6'3" he could probably keep his athleticism at 240 or 245.
however...I saw a kid unblocked on many plays. It would be nice to see how he does fighting through more offensive linemen, backs, TE's, etc. On many of those plays he had more that a few steps with no offensive personnel in his face. Definitely a guy who needs work, but a nice looking prospect.
"And Tshimanga tackles Tshimanga!"
Barnett has definitly been a great recruiter so far, in Zeke Pikes ear and now Tshimanga. It will be very interesting to see how Justice Hayes and him recruit when on campus. Also, for the future it excites me that Frank Clark has the goal of bringing more Glenville kids to mich.
dude seriously looks legit!!
EDIT: double post. my bad...
Can we call him Tim?
well, using the previous heuristic, he should be called "jeremiah tim"
I wondered the same thing when I read that. I'd be shocked if he graduated this June. I'm sure it's the usual one semester early. Is there maybe a university deadline for accepting an offer to matriculate in Jan vs. Sep?
This year is shaping up to be one full of fantastic names
you know; they still have nightmares with the mere mention of that name.
We cannot miss out on a guy with that name.
UT has a couple other prospects ahead of this kid on their board--in fact, I'm not sure he's on their board to be honest. Couple that with the fact that he didn't get an invite to either junior day, and I would say the writing is on the wall regarding a Texas offer. As for aTm or some of the other Texas schools, I haven't heard much.
i think hes a bit too slow to be a LB so im in the he'll-be-a-DE group. to be honest hes only really on the UT board(kind of) because hes current UT reggie wilson's cousin.
He's listed as an outside linebacker, but he looks more like an inside 'backer to me. I've also read that some people think he could grow into a defensive end, and that wouldn't surprise me much, either. He's a built dude.
Agree that either inside LB or DE in college seems likely. To be 226 lbs or whatever and look ripped but really lean at 17 y.o., it seems almost unavoidable that he'll put on 20-40 lbs of good weight naturally over the next 2-4 yrs.
Yeah, but an athletic 245 at 6'3" would make for a great WILL in our defense. He would be a tackle machine.
I think 245 is probably too heavy for most WILL linebackers. I think we're going to see smaller, quicker types there, such as Antonio Poole. I'm guessing they'll probably be 225 to somewhere in the 230's, but 245 sounds more like a MIKE in this defense.
You probably know more about this than I do, but in Brian's main page breakdown of the linebackers, he made it sound like the WILL would be a bigger LB, like a JB Fitzgerald, and the SAM would be more along the lines of what Poole would play, and what Cam Gordon would play this fall, since he'd have to cover a TE. Mouton played the WILL at 240, and he was an inch shorter than Tshimanga.
I agree that a 245 pounder sounds like a MIKE, but if he's 245 and can still run well, I think he can still play an OLB spot.
Yeah, that's what Brian said... I don't know if I agree, though. Size doesn't have much to do with covering a tight end, though. I mean, a guy who's 6'3", 235 is going to be just as good - if not better - in coverage than a guy who's 6'3", 245.
If you look back at the Michigan of old, weakside linebackers were often smaller. Additionally, linebacker recruits have stated that they've been told by Mattison that the MIKE will typically be a bigger guy, and the WILL will typically be a little smaller. Since I can't imagine that many middle linebackers will get above 245-250 (like Demens is right now), then my assumption is that the WILL would likely be smaller than 245.
No - I agree that you don't want a guy at 245 covering a TE - that's why the SAM will be the smaller guy, like Antonio Poole. Since the WILL won't be on the TE side, he can be a bigger guy.
And I also agree that the MIKE will be bigger than the WILL, but maybe not by much. And it wouldn't be that crazy to have your MIKE and WILL weigh about the same, especially if you WILL is 6'3" and you MIKE is 6'1", for example. This past fall, Mouton was 240 and Demens was 245.
If you don't have a big guy to play MIKE, then I wouldn't put a 245 pounder at WILL, but if you have another LB that size to play in the middle, then I don't think being 245 precludes you from playing the WILL, since his style of play is more of an outside backer than a middle backer.
Well, I think Mouton 2010 is different than WILL 2011 (whoever it is). Mouton's job in 2011 was a) stop the run b) cover the hook/curl zone. He didn't have much man coverage on backs, slot receivers, etc.. and he rarely had to cover the flat. He also occasionally put his hand down and rushed the passer.
Meanwhile, the 2011 version of the WILL will probably have to pick up backs out of the backfield, cover the flat, stop the run, and blitz fairly frequently.
Also, keep in mind that Mouton put on some weight in the last year or so. If I remember correctly, he was about 228 lbs. when we were running a 4-3 and he was the WILL. But he got thicker when we moved to the 3-3-5.
Also, Poole specifically said that Mattison recruited him to play WILL. So the SAM might be a guy *like* Poole (more likely it will be Cam Gordon or Josh Furman), but Poole's going to be a weakside linebacker.
I saw on your blog that Poole was your personal favorite recruit. If our kicking situation was better would you consider him as a recruit to have early impact?
Antonio Poole is also my favorite recruit, and not because Magnus thinks so (but having him agree makes me feel better about my prediction). I'm not saying thing because he's going to be a big time early contributor since we have guys like Mike Jones and Cam Gordon ahead of him at his spot, but more because I think he'll be the guy from this class who made the biggest impact once they're all gone.
Guys like Barnett or Countess or (obviously) Wile will probably have an impact earlier than Poole, but I think by the time Poole is an upperclassman he'll be the best of the bunch.
I don't really see him playing much this year, except *maybe* on special teams. I think he's got a bit of weight to add, and he obviously won't enroll until summer time. Plus there's a fair number of older guys who can play linebacker, although many of them are only one or two years older (Jones, Hawthorne, etc.). I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting in 2012 or 2013, though.
I seem to make a habit of that...
Wow! Such big Michigan fans they names the whole family after Biakabatuka.