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TomVH: Kyle Kalis Update

As everyone knows former Ohio State commit Kyle Kalis is visiting Michigan this weekend. He told me that he's very excited for the trip, however I wouldn't expect a commitment this weekend from him. He does have a lot of interest in Michigan, but he decided that he also wants to visit Alabama and Miami first. That isn't 100%, but that's the plan going into the visit. I always say that visits can change things, but this is the plan as of now.

Kyle is aware of the situation Michigan is in with the recruiting class and how many spots are left open. If no decision is made this weekend don't be surprised if any of the other linemen Michigan was in good shape with end up pushing their decisions back or going elsewhere. I believe that they would wait for Kalis to make his decision, rather than letting it fill up.

There are guys like Blake Bars and Eric Olson deciding in the near future. Bars is deciding within a week, as I reported in his interview earlier. If the coaches want three more linemen and if Blake Bars were to choose Michigan they could potentially still be fine. That would probably leave spots reserved to wait for Jordan Diamond and Kyle Kalis. If they want to take three more. We'll see how it plays out, but do note that Kalis has a lot of interest in Michigan.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:04 AM | thanks tom. i'm still pulling (Score:2 Normal)
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thanks tom. i'm still pulling for a commitment

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:05 AM | Interesting (Score:2 Normal)
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I think he likes Michigan alot but a.) wants to make sure he does his homework and b.) doesn't want to jump into a program to keep the bucknuts fans off his back. Thanks for the update Tom, hope the visit changes his mind and he goes blue.

"I know that they know that I know who they are." - Fred Jackson

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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That's awesome Tom, thanks. Good to know he's still really high on UM. I'm still hoping for a commitment this weekend. Is he coming up with Strobel? I heard that somewhere. I know Wormley will be there, so that should help us.

Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 AM | Strobel told me earlier in (Score:5 Normal)
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Strobel told me earlier in the week he won't be there, but I guess that could change. He was just up last weekend so I doubt it.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 AM | In my opinion he will have (Score:5 Normal)
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In my opinion he will have this wrapped up before summer is over.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:06 AM | Tom, where do you project (Score:1)
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Tom, where do you project Kalis on the line? He looks like a Big-Ten ready guard to me, but I know he is listed as a tackle... Also, do you think his interest in other schools is a high as his interest in Michigan? 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 AM | I'm not a scout so this is (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm not a scout so this is just my opinion, but if they were to get both Kalis and Diamond I think both could potentially play guard or tackle so they could let them duke it out and see who's better where. 

Tom VanHaaren I TomVH on Twitter I U Recruit I  Email

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:18 AM | They typically put the taller (Score:2 Informative)
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linemen with the long arms at Left and Right Tackle, Jake Long wasn't much taller, but had freaky long arms. Kalis is 6'5" with a short wingspan so if everyone else is 6'6" and above (Peat is 6'7" and Banner is 6'9") then he's a lock at guard. If they're all 6'6" and he's the most talented then he might play tackle, but might still end up a Guard because we already have young Tackles and maybe a taller one next year. Guard would get him in right away.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:07 AM | You sand baggin' (Score:5 Normal)
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You sand baggin' son-of-a-bitch!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:09 AM | I want a Tom VH gut feeling, (Score:2)
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I want a Tom VH gut feeling, STAT!!!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:45 AM | It's a slam dunk (Score:1)
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that Kalis is visiting this weekend

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:11 AM | So our standing with (Score:1)
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some of the other top linemen somewhat hinges on Kalis because talent follows talent?

 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 AM | I think (Score:2 Normal)
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There will be more breathing room if there are no new commits. A little less need to commit immediately.

Wasting away in Ohio, a Wolverine in a sea of red and grey

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:24 AM | I remember Tom saying (Score:1)
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I remember Tom saying somewhere that Michigan will have a good feel for where the players stand, that if Peat wants a spot they'll have one for him.

Im guessing that means that if they feel they have a real elgit shot at Peat that they'd tell one of the other guys to hold off for a moment. I mean you pretty much would have to right? You wouldnt want Hoke to oversign or tell someone in Feb that they cant join Michigan.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:05 AM | not necessarily Peat (Score:1)
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It seems possible they want to get 5 OL for sure, and leave a spot open for a possible 6th from the west (Peat, Banner, Garnett) who might decide late. Assuming Diamond is coming that leaves one more slot to fill this summer. Reading between the lines, it sounds like Kalis is their first choice for that spot and the coaches might ask Olson, Bars, etc to wait a bit.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:45 AM | I doubt (Score:4 Normal)
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Peat would come calling when we have a class of 6 OL already.

Also 7 OL is way too many I think.

GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY

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June 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 AM | 7OL might be too many (Score:1)
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indeed, but 6 isn't out of the question. We took 6 in 2005 and none of them were as highly touted as some of these kids. 7 might have happened in 05 if Peat had been around then and in play. RR took 3 linemen in his last 2 years total. If one listens to these kids they have absolute confidence in themselves and Peat is a true left tackle. The only kid in this class who could challenge him for that spot is Banner, but both couldstill play. Listen to Steven Elmers father about the mindset of these prospects. They'll follow recruiting more to join top linemen than to avoid them. I can see us taking 4 and having the backup linemen in this class redshirting. 

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:3 Informative)
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IIRC Tom is on PST.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 AM | Good News (Score:1)
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I am glad that Kalis isn't feeling pressured to commit, in regard to the numbers.  You know it must have been hard for him to decommit from OSU.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 1:44 AM | This (Score:1)
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is a fantastically informative post.

A Journey of Father and Son
http://mysonsfirstbible.blogspot.com/2013/05/15-things-you-may-have-miss...

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:52 AM | Totally agree, very informative. (Score:3 Normal)
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Why in the world would

JohnnyV123 -1 06/23/2011 - 2:59am

and

CO Blue -1 06/23/2011 - 4:27am

neg this post from Tom? What about this post would cause these two to neg it?

Maybe trolling?...

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:26 AM | How did you find this out? (Score:1)
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How did you find this out?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:30 AM | Click on voting details above (Score:3 Normal)
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Click on voting details above the post. HOW WOULD TWO PEOPLE DOWNVOTE TOMVH?!

ITS GREAT TO BE A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE

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June 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 AM | Oh derp. Thanks. (Score:1)
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Oh derp.

Thanks.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 AM | Why would they neg TomVH for this post? (Score:5 Normal)
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Because they're assholes, that's why. Same as all the other assholes who neg TomVh. That's what assholes do.


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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:14 AM | Let's not take imaginary (Score:1 Flamebait)
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Let's not take imaginary internet points too seriously.

Galileo was also chastised.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 2:51 PM | Show yourselves (Score:2 Informative)
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JohnnyV123 and CO Blue, show yourselves so you may receive the appropriate negbanging!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 2:00 AM | Tom (Score:1)
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You the man.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 3:01 AM | Kyle Kalis (Score:1)
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Is getting hammered by guys on Ohio State boards and he is just coming for a visit. I cannot understand Kyle wanting to play for a fanbase like Ohio State's. Kyle is what? 17 and he has a great oppertunity to play at any school of his choice. Best of luck where ever he attends school. 

 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:21 AM | I tend to agree, but the (Score:1)
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I tend to agree, but the Michigan fanbase isn't completely opposed to doing similar things: see Darius Morris.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 AM | I don't know... Talking about (Score:2)
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I don't know... Talking about what we think he should have done is a lot different than trashing his character. Most people on the board still wish him well even if they disagree with his leaving.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 AM | As I recall Zettel was not treated that well during the process (Score:1)
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and perhaps that made the difference in his recruitment.  The attention paid to recruiting can get pretty silly in the wrong forum. 

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June 23rd, 2011 at 3:45 AM | I think Kalis is still on (Score:2)
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I think Kalis is still on commitment watch this weekend.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 5:55 AM | The kid is the subject of... (Score:3 Insightful)
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...stories written by national correspondents who first used his decision to stick with OSU to argue that everything would be fine and who now use his decommitment to opine about how the Buckeyes are dead meat. Meanwhile, rest assured he's been on the receiving end of abusive Facebook posts, texts and emails and in the comments sections of Ohio-based online outlets.

So it's anything but surprising that Kalis wants to fully explore his options before he commits to another school. It's pretty clear that in this post, TomVH is setting the expectations for an immediate commitment at their appropriate level: low.

Let's let the process play itself out.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:22 AM | Tom, any idea why the (Score:1)
jethro34
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Tom, any idea why the coaching staff cooled on Orlosky?  He seems to be highly rated, a supposed UM fan, and plays right next to Kalis on the line at St. Edwards.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:25 AM | Also, I do see that he just (Score:1)
jethro34
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Also, I do see that he just commited to West Virginia, but I'm still curious as to what happened there.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:23 AM | Maybe he liked W.V better? (Score:1)
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Maybe he liked W.V better? Seriously just b/c he supposdly likes a school doesnt mean he will end up there.

Blue is Faster

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June 23rd, 2011 at 6:55 AM | I want this guy to commit on (Score:2 Normal)
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I want this guy to commit on the sole reason that it'll be a one/two punch in tsio's face.  Is that wrong?

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 AM | No. (Score:2 Normal)
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Harmon40 "When the 'ol season is over, you and I know: it'll be Michigan again...MICHIGAN!"

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:11 AM | new to the board (Score:5 Normal)
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Long time reader, first time poster. Thanks Tom for your relentless work on this board. Like many on this board, live in Ohio, die hard Wolverine. This would be icing on the cake if Kalis were to come to the good side. The Buckeye nation is in a free fall. and in August they will finally face the reality of what cheaters deserve!

The team, the team, the team

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:18 AM | Hmmmmm.... (Score:4 Normal)
ND Sux
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Funny how the two cowardly d-bags who negged Tom VH (unacceptable BTW) didn't bother to comment.  You'd think if they had a legitimate beef, maybe they'd share it. 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:28 AM | That's very common.  I had a (Score:1 Normal)
gajensen
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That's very common.  I had a thread and somebody went through and negged every post so that they'd become hidden :-/  I checked, and nobody that posted in the thread downvoted me.  I have no idea who the bastard is that gave me a driveby negging.

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June 24th, 2011 at 7:48 PM | Although... (Score:2)
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I agree that they're Dbags if they intended to neg Tom VH but is it possible that one or both could have been an errant click? Those arrows can be really close together depending on your screen resolution.

 
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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 AM | Kalis (Score:1)
wresler120
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It would be great to pull a commitment from Kalis right away. It is quite possible that distance plays a factor in his decision, and once he sees Michigan he could end up committing right away, knowing the number of scholarships we have available.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 7:52 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Well, here's to hoping that the visit changes his mind. You know Kyle, you could really enjoy your summer if you just committed this weekend and no longer had to worry about it.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:08 AM | TomVH = my hero (Score:1)
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Hugely informative post, ty.

Kyle - enjoy your trip to AA, soak it all in, then make the right choice when you see the light.

GO BLUE!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:13 AM | While I don't want to set my (Score:1)
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While I don't want to set my expectations that he will commit this weekend (fingers crossed), I wouldn't be surprised if he silent commits to the coaches to make sure he gets in this class but also takes his visits to the other schools just to make sure he is 100% before he commits fully.  

Hokemania...Gotta catch em all!

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 AM | I've thought this exact (Score:1)
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I've thought this exact thing.  I feel like if he likes A2 then he will tell the coaching staff and no one else and then take his other visits to due his due diligence and make it appear as if he gave everyone a fair shake.

Formerly akron_wolverine and columbus_wolverine.  New home, new name.  A year in Columbus was enough.

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 AM | Kalis on Wormley (Score:3 Normal)
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From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110622/SPORTS0201/106220414/Report--Kyle-Ka...

 

 

 

Two coveted recruits from Ohio — five-star offensive tackle Kyle Kalis of Lakewood and four-star defensive end Chris Wormley of Toledo Whitmer — will visit Michigan's campus this weekend. But Kalis says Wormley might have already settled on a college. "The biggest thing about going to Michigan would be going against Tom (Strobel) and Chris Wormley every day (in practice)," Kalis told Bill Kurelic of Bucknuts.com. "I've pretty much come to the conclusion that Wormley is going to Michigan."

 

Every man at some point is gonna lose a battle. He's gonna fight and he's gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. This game is not over, this battle is not over. So let's hear it .

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June 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 AM | Holllerrrrr... (Score:1)
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Holllerrrr...

....Must. Focus. On. Work....

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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