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TomVH Interview with Michigan Opening Invitees at Columbus NFTC

TomVH interviews the 2013 commits who won invitations to The Opening while competing in the Nike NFTC in Columbus yesterday (Morris, Dawson, Charlton, McCray).  The video includes some highlights of the 1 vs 1 drills, including Taco Charlton destroying some poor O-linemen.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7895820

(It's a slow day, and I didn't see this posted anywhere, including the other NFTC threads... but if it already has been posted, feel free to neg me into deletion land)

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:37 PM | Ha,i love Dawson standing (Score:3 Normal)
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Ha,i love Dawson standing Bilky Price straight up at the end of that video. He walks away all pissed off lol

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:42 PM | Dawson stoning Billy Price before and after (Score:5 Normal)
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Captured in photos as well

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:46 PM | This makes me happy. (Score:1)
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The photos are better than the video....almost poetic really.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:46 PM | I'd bet good money that (Score:5 Normal)
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I'd bet good money that Dawson sees a bump in his rankings when everyone does their updates.  

You can add Taco to that list as well.

LTT definitely going to need a year with Wellman as a redshirt, but holy shit is his ceiling high.  

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | Bilky Price (Score:5 Normal)
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Ha,i love Dawson standing Bilky Price straight up at the end of that video.

Motion to refer to Price as "Bilky" from here on out.

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:02 PM | Seconded. (Score:5 Normal)
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Seconded.

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | Thirded. (Score:5 Normal)
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And passed.

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:39 PM | Price better get used to that (Score:5 Normal)
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Price better get used to that for the next 4 years.

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | ESPN recap of Columbus NFTC (Score:3 Normal)
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Recap (including LTT anchoring the Tug of War):

http://espn.go.com/high-school/football/events/nike-football-training-camps/2012/story/_/id/7890516/columbus-nike-football-training-camp-recap

TomVH notebook on Cass Tech and Trotwood Madison pipeline of talent (also a bit on Malik McDowell):

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7894555/cass-tech-trotwood-recruits-excel-nftc

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Wichigan (Score:4 Normal)
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Nice of Burrows to acknowledge all the Ws they're going to put up against him.

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | Taco is an absolute beast. I (Score:3 Normal)
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Taco is an absolute beast. I cannot wait to see him in a Michigan uniform.

HEY! You there!

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May 6th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Another nice recap from CBS Sports with a good nugget on Taco (Score:3 Normal)
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- Though Ohio State commit Billy Price snagged MVP honors, he wasn't the top performer along the defensive line during one-on-ones. Michigan commit Taco Charlton was rarely stopped while Indianapolis (Ind.) defensive end Anthony Winbush and Detroit (Mich.) defensive end Malik McDowell were some of the other top guys who used a variety of moves to nail the quarterback.

- Michigan commit David Dawson looked really good at the guard position and had a better day than fellow pledge Logan Tuley-Tillman.

- With two days to watch most of the quarterbacks, there was pretty much a consensus top three of Morris, Zaire and Del Rio.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-recruiting/18972455/del-rio-ends-strong-weekend-with-ohio-nike-camp-mvp-honors

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | How is Shane the only QB to (Score:2)
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How is Shane the only QB to get an opening invite, but Del Rio is the QB MVP?... Same with Cam Burrows as the only DB to get an invite.

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:26 PM | Im pretty positive Shane was (Score:1)
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Im pretty positive Shane was MVP

Shoelaces flapping in the wind!

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:45 PM | Shane was the MVP of the (Score:1)
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Shane was the MVP of the Elite11 camp on Friday.

Del Rio was the QB MVP of the Columbus Nike Camp on Saturday.

Not a big deal IMHO...the Elite 11 camp was the important one for Shane and the rest of the QBs.

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May 6th, 2012 at 6:40 PM | I think I can say this (Score:4 Normal)
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I think I can say this without bias, being that it happened to both UM and OSU recruits. ESPN/Nike wants to see the big names at the opening, not the little guys that perform well at a camp. They want the ESPN 150 to be proven as the best indicator of talent, and they'll bump the highly rated kids to get Opening invites because it makes them look good.

It's the same logic that gets overused, but is sadly, correlated with the UA game, and the UA 150. Guys that go to the camps that ESPN endorses get rated higher on ESPN, and get invites to more prestigious ESPN-endorsed events. 

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May 6th, 2012 at 7:06 PM | I think your pretty dead on (Score:1)
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I think your pretty dead on with that veiw point.  and it does make sense for them to bump up their own kids. you really need to look at all the sites i think to get alittle better overall veiw of these kds.

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May 6th, 2012 at 8:03 PM | Agreed, just overall take it (Score:2 Normal)
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Agreed, just overall take it with a grain of salt. You guys may not like Urban, and I don't like Hoke, just in the sake of rivalry. But neither side can say that the opposing coach is a poor judge of talent, and these guys will find the players who fit best in their individual systems. That's good enough for me

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May 7th, 2012 at 9:06 AM | I tend to disagree with the (Score:2)
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I tend to disagree with the assertion that neither side can argue that somebody is a bad judge of talent. While it may be totally unrelated to pure "talent," it is at least worth noting that when Urban finally got a team of all players he recruited they were kind of crappy. Again, as prefaced, this could be for a variety of reasons, but several recruiting analysts have said something in the past along the lines of "Urban has a rep of star gazing, and he tires of recruiting quickly." These same analysts imply that he has recruited off lists as much as evaluation. Is this true? Who knows. But it's not totally crazy, and it seems to get mentioned often by people in the know.

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May 7th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Yeah, but then you'd have to say he got really lucky (Score:2)
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With the talent he inherited at Bowling Green and Utah too.  Which, well...

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:46 PM | Not on Saturday. (Score:1)
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He was the MVP of the Elite#11 camp he did on Friday, but was not named the QB MVP on Saturday.

To answer the question about The Opening tickets I am guessing it was a combination of ranking coming in and how they did at camp.  The really highly ranked players just have to pass the eye test.  They do not need to be the top performer on that day.

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Definitely (Score:1)
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He's already quite impressive, and as he continues to bulk up and get coached up he will be downright scary.

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | He's kinda scary right now.  (Score:2)
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He's kinda scary right now.  He's quite the athlete.  With good mechanics it might not be a fair fight anymore.

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May 6th, 2012 at 9:50 PM | No doubt.  I'd not seen him (Score:2)
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No doubt.  I'd not seen him next to an assortment of other guys of various size until that interview with TomVH and the other guys, but now that I have, all I can say is WOW.  I thought he was kind of lean before, and would need to bulk up quite a bit....now I am not so sure.

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:13 PM | Loving the thought of Taco (Score:3 Normal)
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Loving the thought of Taco and Mario coming off the edges in a couple of years on 3rd down, Pipkins coming up the gut. How long has it been since we've seen edge pressure like that?  Not since B.Graham....

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:18 PM | Dawson's power base is (Score:4 Normal)
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Dawson's power base is unbelievable. He has thrown 300-lb kids off balance with solid handwork on multiple occasions. It's going to a major challenge getting to Morris.

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | He can deliver quite a shot.  (Score:2)
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He can deliver quite a shot.  All D-linemen beware.

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May 6th, 2012 at 3:14 PM | I love the nasty streak (Score:2)
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I love the nasty streak Dawson plays with

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May 6th, 2012 at 4:43 PM | When Tom and Shane were (Score:3 Normal)
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When Tom and Shane were talking he just looked so pissed off. He is a mean, mean man, and that's what I like to see.

Special Teams means special times!

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May 6th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Do we know why Dymonte wasn't (Score:2)
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Do we know why Dymonte wasn't there?

"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.

-Craig Roh 10/29/2011

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:56 PM | Dymonte plays baseball. I was (Score:2 Normal)
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Dymonte plays baseball.

I was hoping Dukes would/could be there to get some exposure for himself though

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | I thought at first that Shane (Score:5 Normal)
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I thought at first that Shane Morris's shirt said "GOD"

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May 6th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | Wait it doesn't? (Score:1)
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Wait it doesn't?

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May 6th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | Can we stop... (Score:2 Normal)
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The Senator Nickname? I get the idea, but hate hate the way it sounds referring to a 17/18 year old. I know people have said they hate the nickname sugar. But that nickname is 5x better.

'Cause I Bleed Blue...

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May 6th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | Love the video and pictures here. (Score:1)
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Anyone know how Hill did yesterday.  He seems to be the one player that I have not heard about.

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May 6th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | Hill was good, he will fill (Score:1)
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Hill was good, he will fill the H back role perfectly. Nothing spectacular, but good in all areas. I liked what I saw.

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May 6th, 2012 at 4:40 PM | TomVH (Score:2)
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may be shorter than Vincent Smith.

Bring back Keith Jackson

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May 6th, 2012 at 4:44 PM | Keep in mind that all of (Score:2)
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Keep in mind that all of those players are at or above 6'3"

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May 6th, 2012 at 8:40 PM | V Smith (Score:2)
M Wolve
Joined: 09/04/2011
MGoPoints: 732

is about 5'7", and I'd say that's just about how tall Tom looks in the picture.  I think it'd be a close call.

Bring back Keith Jackson

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May 6th, 2012 at 6:29 PM | Please (Score:4 Normal)
Skiptoomylou22
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TomVH doesn't pass block nearly as well.

Bo' Money Bo' Problems

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May 6th, 2012 at 8:41 PM | I wonder (Score:2)
M Wolve
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I wonder if this can be Tom's second football related challenge (the first was his Barwis workout).  Give Tom a set of pads and have him go 1 on 1 with looping lb's.  Then cycle in V Smith.  I'd pay top dollar.

Bring back Keith Jackson

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May 7th, 2012 at 9:20 AM | I'm sure this has already (Score:2)
Jmilan
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I'm sure this has already been said, but I think Charlton's length and speed is going to be a pain for teams to deal with for the upcoming years. He has a great pass rush and hopefully all the success we are seeing on these clips will carry over once the pads get put on. I know it's early, but I really hope that he can continue to be as much of a beast that he has been in these camps once he gets on campus and starts going live.

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