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TomVH: Dee Hart Update

Chris Hays from the Orlando Sentinel posted this article after talking to Demetrius Hart. The article says that Demetrius plans on staying committed to Michigan as long as Rich Rodriguez is the head coach. The shocker is this. If Rich Rodriguez is fired, Demetrius says he will end up at Florida, not Alabama.

I spoke with Chris about the article, and he felt that Demetrius was being genuine. He, along with everyone else, isn't sure what Demetrius will do but said Demetrius told him he will stay if Rich Rodriguez does too. He told Chris Hays tonight that Alabama is out, and it's all about the spread offense for him. Demetrius is also no longer enrolling early, according to Chris and the article.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:45 AM | In Rod We Trust.  It seems (Score:1)
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In Rod We Trust.  It seems like we always over-emphasize the bowl games, but gosh... a bowl win would make it so much harder to fire him.

Thanks Tom VH for your great updates, as usual.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:17 PM | What is this fascination with Hart?? (Score:1)
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Michigan is not in disparate need of a running back. It needs good defensive players. Good running backs out of high school are a dime a dozen. Certainly good quarterbacks can make a difference and are coveted. Not the same for running backs.

If Hart decides to go to Florida god bless him. I doubt he will be missed at Michigan.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:44 PM | LOL (Score:1)
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LOL

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:46 PM | Let my neg be the first of (Score:1)
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Let my neg be the first of many.

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December 7th, 2010 at 3:07 PM | He's also... (Score:1)
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possibly the best back in the class and could win high sdchool all american player of the year? no big loss though.

'Cats comin' for y'all

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December 8th, 2010 at 2:05 PM | "Michigan is not in disparate need of a running back" (Score:1)
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... You're joking, right?

Did you see our non-RB based rush attack?  The QB carried more than the RBs combined in most of the games.  We need a quick all-purpose back like Hart.

Think Steve Slaton at WVU.

HAIL.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:45 AM | In that case I firmly believe (Score:1)
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In that case I firmly believe Dee Hart will be at Michigan come fall.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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December 7th, 2010 at 9:53 AM | I couldn't agree more. (Score:1)
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I don't see RR going anywhere because DB knows what kind of a coach he has. Doesn't change the fact that making an announcement sooner rather than later would help the situation out though.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:34 AM | Not so straight forward (Score:1)
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If it were this simple, and DB "knows what kind of coach he has" than he would have just made his announcement and been done with it, securing Dee's committment, helping RR recruit during this critical recruiting month and ending the media circus surrounding our program.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:45 AM | Great news. It sounds like (Score:1)
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Great news. It sounds like he's willing to keep his commitment even with the lack of haste from Brandon. This makes me smile.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:12 AM | Not personal, I just don't get this mentality... (Score:1)
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DB's job is to initiate a performance review every year on his coaches.  He's not going to do it until their season's done.  He has never said once that he is waiting to make a decision on RR.  That's all been us/media.  He HAS said he's not ready to do his review yet. 

Even once his review is done, there's still only a decision IF he thinks change is necessary.  Should he do the review and not feel head coach change is necessary, there will NEVER be a decision.  In essence, we're all waiting around anxiously for nothing.

Like it or not, DB is not "wasting" time, whether it's "convenient" for others or not.  He certainly should not be encouraged to make "hasty" decisions at his level.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:44 AM | This reasoning is naive.  In (Score:1)
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This reasoning is naive.  In the corporate world, this would make sense.  But we are not in the corporate world - we are a major college football program that is covered extensively by the local and national press.

This press coverage is followed by recruits, fans, alum and donors.  While in the corporate world, failing to make public the result of a performance review would be ordinary and would not harm the company, that mentality does not apply to D1 college football.

Failing to announce his "decision" can only further hurt recruiting, and likely donations.  Recruiting is the lifeblood of our team - this should be obvious after the past three years and the "Decimated Defense" Diary that has made its way around this blog a million times.  Donations are equally important, because they pay for the facilities that allow us to recruit, they allow us to apy coaches anough to keep them and they allow us to do more to market our brand (which again dovetails into recruiting).

As for making a "hasty" decision, I do not think that anyone on this board - including those that, like me, have become frustrated with DB's timetable - wants that.  But DB has had a full season to evaluate RR.  He has seen the results of the past three seasons, witness the level of progress, met with the players, met with the coaches, spoken with former players and alum.  To me, making a decision at this point would not be hasty, it would be timely.  Most other ADs don't seem to have trouble making this decision after the close of the regular season. 

So, in summary, I just don't get why you (and I am not singling you out) are treating DB's decision -and that is what it is - as an ordinary corporate performance review.  It is not.  This "decision" will largely shape the future of our program.

One note:  I have seen this theory in many of these threads:  DB is waiting to make his announcement because he wants Harbaugh and does not want to put Harbaugh in a Les Miles type situation where he has to choose between the M job and his team on the eve of a huge game.  If this is his reasoning - agree or disagree with the decision - then this would justify his delay.  If this is not, and he is just going to keep RR, then in my mind just get on with it and let's restore some sanity to our program.

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December 10th, 2010 at 12:08 AM | Your Assumption is wrong (Score:1)
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Brandon never stated there would be a "firing decision".  He has merely stuck to his story that he reviews coaches performance at the end of the season.

On top of that, he's stated multiple times since February that Rich Rodriguez is the coach of Michigan, and specifically in response to the NCAA violations he has stated, "Rich Rodriguez will be the coach."  Despite this direct and clear statement, the question is asked over an over.

I don't notice any other AD's around the country issuing press releases to confirm that indeed their coaches are staying.  So is is hardly standard practice in Division 1 football that Head Coaches must be confirmed annual in a press release.

So in my estimation you are the one being naive.  Because after months of examples where the media makes up their stories the way they want, ignoring the direct answers to their questions, you actually believe that if David Brandon said yet again, "Coach Rodriguez is the coach at Michigan." then suddenly all of this media story creation will go away.

But probably there is nothing that will convince you that a decision doesn't exist, any more than the media could be convinced by someone directly answering their questions.

 

 

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December 7th, 2010 at 12:02 PM | There's a difference (Score:1)
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between giving a performance review and deciding whether to retain someone.  You can tell someone they've had an average year so no bonus, but you've still got a job.  If all we were talking about reviewing the coach's performance, DB could say I'll review his performance, critique some things and discuss how I expect improvement in the future.  If he did, then all this angst would end.  The fact that he hasn't done something like that speaks volumes to me.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:46 AM | Well I think RR should stay (Score:1)
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Well I think RR should stay so Dee should stay blue

thanks Tom for the update

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December 7th, 2010 at 9:44 AM | Yeah (Score:1)
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That's the reason we should base our coaching decision on.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:06 AM | I don't think the OP (Score:1)
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was saying we should keep RR in order to keep Dee.  He was saying he thinks we will keep RR and therefore we will keep Dee.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:50 AM | Well, that's what he said, (Score:1)
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Well, that's what he said, even if he meant something else.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:18 PM | OP forgot to put a comma (Score:1)
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OP forgot to put a comma before the so. Grammar fail. Move along.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:46 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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You hear that DB. If you have heart we get Hart.



Horrible pun I know.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:10 AM | Why horrible? (Score:1)
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DB should know that his decisions could leave us all hart-broken.

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December 7th, 2010 at 9:53 AM | DB is just hart-less. (Score:1)
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DB is just hart-less.

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December 7th, 2010 at 10:47 AM | so funny (Score:1)
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i almost sHarted

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:46 AM | But srsly, thanks for the (Score:1)
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But srsly, thanks for the update!

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:46 AM | Tom (Score:1)
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Do you feel he's being genuine? Florida already has Mike Blakely. 

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:49 AM | Yes, I do. Alabama is just as (Score:1)
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Yes, I do. Alabama is just as logged jam. He would fit in way better with Florida's offense, since he wouldn't at all as a running back at Alabama.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:51 AM | Fair enough (Score:1)
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although as long as Addazio is Florida's OC, I think he'd fit in better playing cricket or Quidditch.

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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December 7th, 2010 at 7:48 AM | Quidditch @ Florida? (Score:1)
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Impossible.  He needs wings to truly fly.  Another reason to Go Blue, Dee. 

Oh yeah - thanks, Tom.  I'm sending you a cyber chest bump in the form of an MGoPoint (2 actually). 

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December 7th, 2010 at 3:22 AM | just wanted to point out you (Score:1)
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just wanted to point out you have 1997 points... i think you should keep it right there...

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December 7th, 2010 at 3:33 AM | Or failing that, hurry up and (Score:1)
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Or failing that, hurry up and get 2011.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:46 AM | That's somewhat of (Score:1)
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a relief to me.  I really feel like RichRod will stay put, and therefore so will Dee.  And it only makes sense that he'd want to play in strictly a spread offense.  Thanks Tom

"Dream Big, Work Hard"

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:47 AM | Thanks Tom (Score:1)
Cheech
Joined: 09/24/2009
MGoPoints: -420

Good Luck at Florida Dee...One player will not hold this team hostage. RR has to go

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:50 AM | Obvious troll (Score:1)
AAB
Joined: 01/14/2009
MGoPoints: 7196

is obvious.

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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December 7th, 2010 at 1:58 AM | Troll? (Score:1)
Cheech
Joined: 09/24/2009
MGoPoints: -420

Sorry Mr Walmart Slappy...I graduated from Michigan. RR has to go and since Dee won't come to A2 without him...Good Luck to him

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:00 AM | not a Sparty but still a (Score:1)
natesezgoblue
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Joined: 05/24/2010
MGoPoints: 2343

not a Sparty but still a Dick.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:02 AM | Class of 2006 (Score:1)
AAB
Joined: 01/14/2009
MGoPoints: 7196

and when I was there, they thought us that an ellipsis isn't the same thing as a period. 

/yougotgrammar'd

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:07 AM | Riiight (Score:1)
Cheech
Joined: 09/24/2009
MGoPoints: -420

Because grammar on an internet board determines a Michigan Grad? Do you guys love the program or do you love Michigan. The experiment failed. 

Like Bo said, you idiots know who Bo is right? Its about the TEAM. No man is more important than the team NO COACH is more important than the team. This team is struggling with this new style. Time to get back to what we do well.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:09 AM | Go hang out with Chong brah (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Joined: 11/14/2010
MGoPoints: 16716

Go hang out with Chong brah

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:19 AM | "This team is struggling with (Score:1)
KinesiologyNerd
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Joined: 02/10/2009
MGoPoints: 5974

"This team is struggling with this new style"

Struggling to 6th best offense in the nation. UNACCEPTABLE.

I know from experience dude. If you know what I mean.

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:24 AM | Why not number 1? I AM ANGAR (Score:1)
Shaqsquatch
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Joined: 04/08/2009
MGoPoints: 3302

Why not number 1? I AM ANGAR

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December 7th, 2010 at 2:31 AM | My man (Score:1)
Cheech
Joined: 09/24/2009
MGoPoints: -420

7-5...3-5 in the conference without a single signature win. The offense gets a majority of their yardage against nobody and when we are trailing by 2-3 touchdowns. The defense is absolutely horrid. All that falls at the feet of one person...Rich Rodriguez

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December 7th, 2010 at 3:21 AM | You are a tool. I do like (Score:1)
BigBlue02
Joined: 06/29/2009
MGoPoints: 1853

You are a tool.

I do like how you said the offense gets a majority of their yardage against nobody....as if the season weren't over and we hadn't already played everyone we were going to play in the B10.

Again, you are a tool.

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December 7th, 2010 at 4:50 AM | Time to get back to what we (Score:1)
GoBlue007
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Joined: 02/16/2010
MGoPoints: 292

Time to get back to what we do well - Which is lose to App St?  Like many of us on this board - it was probably the worst day of our lives...but it personified that the Michigan old guard which had worked in the past was over and we had to prepare for the future.  We'll always treasure our past and its our DNA but its not going to work moving forward. Not sure if RR is the right guy.  Sometimes, like after IL, I hope he is and sometimes, like after tOSU, I hope that he is not.  Time will tell - Jany 4th, after Stanford's Bowl we should find out. 

"I want to express my thanks to you, as a graduate of the Michigan of the East, Harvard University." - John F. Kennedy, 1960 Michigan Union

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December 7th, 2010 at 12:08 PM | You are a very lucky person (Score:1)
Bluemandew
Joined: 11/18/2010
MGoPoints: 961

You are a very lucky person and I am extremely jelouse if a loss in a football game was the worst day of your life.

Just do it!

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December 7th, 2010 at 7:31 AM | Actually (Score:1)
Maize and Blue ...
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Joined: 03/15/2009
MGoPoints: 3516

LCs last couple of year's recruiting is what failed.  RR has had two recruiting class and picked up a couple kids at the end of LC's last class, notably Odoms and Roundtree.  If you can determine that he has failed despite having recruited nothing but freshman and sophomores and has almost the whole returning you should be an AD preferable at another school.

Yes, I know who Bo is and I also know he would have kicked JH's ass for his comments about the program and academics if he were still alive. 

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December 7th, 2010 at 8:42 AM | I don't agree with cheech. (Score:1)
Bluemandew
Joined: 11/18/2010
MGoPoints: 961

I don't agree with cheech. But I am  sick of hearing people bag on Loyd Carr like he knew his last recruiting classes would leave for grade reasons get hurt and transfer. Allso sooner or later this program becomes Rich Rods and we can't blame Loyd anymore for what is going on. I can't wait for this to happen. As it will mean Rich Rod is still here and people will have to stop bitching about a man who has given more to this university than any of us ever will.

Just do it!

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December 7th, 2010 at 8:47 AM | And would Bo have kept Carr (Score:1)
diclemeg2
Joined: 05/11/2010
MGoPoints: -34

And would Bo have kept Carr and Hart quiet, afterwards?

And FYI, Bo would have made sure that Harbaugh got the job in the first place.

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December 7th, 2010 at 11:07 AM | Not really (Score:1)
Michigan4Life
Joined: 07/29/2010
MGoPoints: 5674

Bo would support RR 100% since RR is one of his favorite coach in the country(Kirk Ferentz being the other).

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December 7th, 2010 at 8:46 AM | Finally some words of wisdom (Score:1)
diclemeg2
Joined: 05/11/2010
MGoPoints: -34

Finally some words of wisdom here.   There is a correlation with points and Walmart Slappy, but moreso  points with RR Slappy.   And I'm beginning to notice, the only true and genuine Blue  are the ones like us with NEGATIVE points. There are a few Spartys mixed in, however.

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December 7th, 2010 at 9:48 AM | I get it, you have negative (Score:1)
DetroitBlue
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Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 1125

I get it, you have negative points because you're a true Michigan fan and you're being unfairly persecuted.   It has nothing to do with the quality of your posts or your (in)ability to support your opinions with facts. 

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