Its football season, dude. This is probably too OT.
I did not make this headline up
Its football season, dude. This is probably too OT.
Yup. I was totally expecting something titled "Tigers LF Options" to be about football. If only he had labeled it OT /s
Detroit sports are not OT (read the by-laws) and there is nothing interesting football-wise on this All Hallow's Eve, dude.
Grady has talked about retiring recently, and may be done with baseball. Too many injuries.
Delmon Young and Brennan Boesch. We need a 3B which we would most likely have to trade for.
Can play 3rd base and that's why you could go out in free agency and make a run for Jose Reyes to be your SS.
Or they can sign Aramis Ramirez.
to about $120 million, we dont have that kind of money
he also can get fat, give up and quit if pissed off like he did in cleveland
The same reason we need to the stay the F away from Reyes...Big year in contract year, but otherwise, a guy who is constantly injuried and underachieving...plus, he won't have the speed as he ages during the span of this contract, which is why you are paying him that money....I will be very disappointed if the Tigers sign Reyes...
I would like them to try for Grady if only cheap, bring in a top reliever or two (not closers) and go after a 2nd or 3rd basemen via trade
Umm explain? That man went all of out for Cleveland. Sounds like he was pissed?
his career definitley has turned around in detroit.
The Indians moving Peralta to 3rd is the reason we got him for cheap. Why would we do the same to him a season after he made the All-Star game at SS?
Is a career .300 OBP player with severe downsides in LF at Comerica with his suspect defense... and Boesch is your every day RF... don't know where those options are...
we don't need another outfielder. Grady Sizemore is chronically injured and can't really hit anymore. Delmon is bad defensively but he can hit so it doesnt really matter.
Are hard to defend. Saying Grady can't hit anymore is just wrong based on his performances between injuries and Delmon has not been a world-beater with his bat his entire career, just catching fire when he came to the Tigers.
.298, 21 homers, and 112 RBIs in 2010 and was injured the first half of the season that's why his production was down. He is about to hit is prime so this is the perfect time to sign him to a 2 year contract with the second having an option.
As for Grady Sizemore, He hasn't played a 150 games since 2008 and in between 2009 and 2011 he hasn't hit over .250 and 28 combined homeruns. Also the speed you want from him isn't anything special he only stole 17 bases in those 3 years. his defensive war is a total of -0.1 and his OBP is only mediocre, but has been bad the last 2 years
used as a fill-in outfielder to give Young, Boesch, and Jackson rest and plus he would be a good top of the order hitter to compliment middle of the order if he stays healthy.
we cant have a 4th outfielder making 5+ mil a year
Add a little more, if Uncle Illitch is willing to pay it, and get Rollins or Reyes. Move Peralta to third.
We have Boesch and Delmon for right and left, with Kelly serving as a decent backup.
our payroll isnt actually dropping really from the raises cabrera verlander and others are getting, puls the raises due to avila and jackson and boesch as soon as they are arbitration eligible
A lot of people talk about moving peralta to third. That didnt work out so well in cleveland. He was unhappy and this led to the Indians trading him to a team in their own division. He worked very hard in the offseason to improve his footwork and range. He was gold glove worthy at SS this year. I dont think we should mess with that. Lets find a 3B or 2B and go with it.
I live in Cleveland and have watch Sizemore up close and personal for several years. The Tigers should jump on getting him if they can.
and i mean always hurt... i'll pass
we need to get a little realistic. There is about a 5% chance that we sign Reyes and it wouldn't be a good signing because we would be signing a guy who is a bad clubhouse guy, is often injured, and lacks power. If we are going to spend that kind of money i would rather us trade Rick Porcello, Casey Crosby, Robert Brantly, and Andy Oliver to the Marlins for Hanley Ramirez and move him to 3B. After we do that we sign Roy Oswalt to a 2 year/ 16-18 mil contract
I don't think Ilitch has that money to spend on one "star" free agent. The Tigers are not exactly making huge profits right now...I believe they have money to make significant moves, but not crazy ass spending moves.
Also, that trade for Hanley Ramirez is bat shit crazy...not to mention I don't think Florida would do it. That is giving up way to much and I do not think Oswalt (in the AL) is an upgrade over Porcello for that large of a paycheck.
Before last year Hanley was a top 3 player in the NL and really needs a change of surrondings. Rick Porcello, as much as we Tiger fans don't want to admit it, is nothing special and is a #3 starter at best. Drew Smyly and Jacob Turner could easily take his spot in the rotation. Roy Oswalt would be good here because the hitting isn't great in the Central and our park is pitcher friendly
I do not like NL pitchers with meh ERAs and WHIPs coming to the AL...it rarely works out well. Also...Porcello is our 3rd starter. Verlander and Fister are 1,2, no questions asked...you can make a real good case Scherzer should be 3rd starter. So now Rick is pitching in the 4th spot...and he is a pretty good option as a 4th starter IMO. The Tigers rotation looks pretty deep right now...not one of the best ever obviously...but pretty deep compared to other teams.
but Roy Oswalt is a workhorse when he is healthy and gives our rotation veteran leadership. I think scherzer is our #3 easily when he has his mechanics going right. I agree our rotation is solid but it is solid with an ace, an good not great pitcher, and a bunch of average pitchers. I'm sure you've heard of Drew Smyly so i don't have to explain how good he is and he is out of college so he should compete for the #5 spot in the rotation out of spring training. I think Turner needs another year in the minors to work on his change up and mixing up pitches, at the worst bring him up in july.
but I also don't think they will rush him up. I think he will start next year in the minors and will be a likely call up if one pitcher's game goes to hell
going on 23 and was a college pitcher so he already has experience logging a lot of innings
I like this. That's good thinkin'.
I was reading about the free agency options on a couple sites. Came here to check out the latest, and pleased to see the post. Unlike other sites, you can count on intelligent ifnromed discussion here.
I though, and still think Reyes is a possibility, albeit a slight one. However, I recall that Peralta may have objected to playing 2nd this year, or in the past, and that seems a prerequisite to the Tigers having any interest in Reyes.
On the other hand, I could see the tigers picking up a Betimit equivalent for second base, particularly if they resign Santiago (who the Twins are apparently interested in signing as a full time SS).
I agree with you that pitching, and relief pitching especially, are areas where the tigers will end up looking. Oswalt would be great. There are a number of possibiities for pitching in fee agency also. Basically nothing for second base. If we are going to p/u a 2nd basemen, it seems it will either involve moving Peralta to second or a trade rather than free agency.
As for outfield, Dirks shows promise, and between he and Kelly there seem to be enough options to sub for Young as necessary.
we have Ryan Raburn! /s
Secondly, Delmon Young and Brennan Boesch will be the corner outfielders with Austin Jackson in center...that is solid and does not need to be screwed with.
The Tigers need to focus on upgrading the infield. 2nd base or 3rd base is what has to get upgraded...or shortstop if Peralta can move over to 3rd base. Also, a new bullpen pitcher would be nice too since we can not win a world series with only 2.5 (Coke being the .5) trusted arms in the pen
for Al-Al. who knows if he can finish his recovery and not have a sophomore slump though
how much that batting practice ball to the head screwed him up for the end of the season. I have a feeling his issues are more mental than physical. I think if he gets it back, he will be very valuable...and I also think Perry and Schlereth have upside that can help the Tigers for years if they can reach it...but an experienced arm for longer relief in the bullpen is really needed for this team and you saw that in the playoffs hurt the Tigers (which might be solved if they have a good 5th starter who can move into that role...cough jacob turner cough)
Detroit sports = not OT
yes it is...this is a Michigan Blog...this thread is not about Michigan sports. I am not saying the thread should be deleted...but is should be labeled OT
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Especially if the Phillies go after Reyes? Is that still too expensive? We have 26 million coming off the books in Guillen, Maggs and Penny. I understand that guys are getting raises, but are they really getting that kind of raise?
Who has more trade value and upside? I would think Smyly, but I'm a Turner fan.
is Juan Pierre who as a Sox fan was a decent player. If you need speed at the top of the order he is still got it. Plus he isnt gonna cost an arm and a leg to get him. Plus the Tigers have enough power everywhere else in the lineup. He is around a 285 hittter 20 plus stolen bases and a c plus average fielder for the most part. And he was never misses a game not from injury or bad play.
The outfield will be Young, Jackson and Boesch. Dombrowski will spend his time/money working on upgrading the other positions such as 2B or possible 3B.
An OF with shaky knees and pop in his bat purchased on the cheap has worked before... I like your style.
Why are you worrying about left field when that position is covered, whereas 2nd and 3rd are not?
2nd and 3rd base, as well as one more reliable bullpen arm are higher priorities IMO. While not manned with All-Stars, between Young, Raburn and Kelly they have respectable LF production at the plate, although the D is admittedly shaky. This is where Raburn becomes such a frustration. He has everything physically necessary to be a stud OF, particularly good wheels and a great arm. And if you could extrapolate his 2nd half plate numbers over a full season for the last 3 years he'd be on the road to the Hall of Fame. His problem seems to be that with his million dollars physical skills comes a five dollar head. I've given up on hoping for improvement at 3B. They'll be doing the Weekend at Bernie's thing with Inge's corpse before they get rid of him. Leyland obviously (or so it seems to me) does not like to play Betemit. I hope DD figures that mess out.
I could care less about what they do at LF. I am only interested in seeing the Tigers making a push for Jose Reyes.
The only reason to sign Sizemore is if the TIger's Team Doctor is bored from not having Carlos Guillen around and wants another player who can't go one month without spraining something.
It is a good thing the Tigers are pretty set at most positions because the FA market stinks this year.