At press time, Harbaugh had sent Michigan’s athletic department an envelope containing a heavily annotated seating chart, a list of the 63,000 seat views he had found unsatisfactory, and a glowing 70-page report on section 25, row 12, seat 9, which he claimed is “exactly what the great sport of football is all about.”
Thursday Night NCAA Football Open Thread
Spread offenses never work against really good manball teams..Period.. We had the same issue during RR era, everytime we played a good defense we couldnt do shit
I kid. I kid.
8 of the top 10 teams runs spread offense.....
Osu, oregon, who else?
The other game tonight featured two spread teams in Baylor and Oklahoma but the latter mixes some other looks in there. Mizzou, Clemson, and Auburn are all spread teams as well. Florida State is a multiple scheme offense that is spread heavy but could probably be counted as a spread offense. Other teams in top 25 that run spread offenses: Ok. St., Texas A&M, Fresno St., UCLA, Louisville, UCF, N. Illinois, Arizona St., Notre Dame and Texas Tech.
You do understand what a spread offense is right?? Really OU? Arizona ST, Notre D
I like watching Stanford on both sides of the ball.
Anyone catch the announcers saying how many seniors Stanford has on the 2 deep? I thought they said 14. Does Michigan even have 14 seniors on the entire roster? Let alone on the 2 deep.
Easy to see that these guys, on both sides of the ball, have played together a great deal and have great chemistry.
Delayed gratification, personafied
I hope this will give some of the sky is falling folks some perspective. Instead of wringing our hands over every game, let alone every play call, wondering who should be fired, maybe we should take a step back and realize this kind of chemistry and experience, and as a result this kind of competency, doesn't happen overnight.
Doesn't mean they won't either!
Lots of people are using this game as a "See, we're fine", whereas people, like in yesterday's recruiting roundup, are saying "See FIRE BORGES!" It's like any time someone can twist something back to that debate, it happens. I don't mind the debate when it's in certain places for certain topics, but man, every thread (including the fire borges crowd earlier in this thread) gets turned into it.
There's no crying in football.
He cried now he is hurt...
I hope Derrick Green is watching this Gaffney kid run.
I hope our offensive line are watching Gaffney's blockers block!
I can't even imagine the frustration of being an Oregon fan today. Actually I can. This is RR vs Wisconsin, when they threw 1 pass the entire 2nd half. You know what's coming and you can't do anything to stop it.
than we did last week, don't you think?
I think OU did, i think its time for Stoops to fire his own brother
Has Oregon gotten a defensive stop further out than its own 10-yard line?
Must be Oregon's OC tonight, right?
Borges doesnt spread?? Whaaaat lol
This is what Hoke wants to build Michigan into, guys.
I don't doubt that's what Hoke wants to accomplish. The question is whether or not he actually has the capability to do so.
His approach to shuffling around the offensive coaching staff in the offseason will tell you whether he gets it. If I were him, I'd start trying to poach Mike Bloomgren away from Stanford.
Stanford went 4-8, 5-7, 8-5 in the first three years under Harbaugh. They fired neither OC or OL coach, in fact the OC was David Shaw, the current head coach.
On one hand, if there's truly an issue a change is in order, but there's something to be said for continuity and Stanford is a perfect example. If Hoke doesn't shuffle the staff this year, it doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't "get it." It just means that he thinks they need more time.
Borges has been an OC for nearly thirty years.
Shaw was just starting out after brief stints as a position coach.
The amount of leeway you give one compared to the other should vary, yes?
If anything that gives Borges more time, he's got a track record to show he can win given enough time to mold a team (for the most part). The point is, these things take time, and the more you're taking the short view and putting people on hotseats before they've had a chance to succeed, the longer it's going to take your team to get there eventually.
and it's not us.
So does Oregon still want Bama?
a replica of Bama.
Stanford vs Alabama would be an interesting game.
FSU was better than Oregon going into this game to begin with
But...if state plays OSU in the big championship game...OSU wins...does date still go to the rose bowl?
Assuming OSU gets the nod over FSU for the NC game?
*state not date
Prolly not, nobody liked MSU
I would be absolutely shocked if undefeated OSU gets in over undefeated FSU.
I hope not. I think Baylor would jump over OSU. OSU still goes to the Rose Bowl.
If a Big Ten team goes to the national title game, the Rose is no longer obligated to choose a conference school.
Mariota doesn't look anything like a Heisman candidate, much less the front-runner. I'm not sure you can ever really know how good Oregon skill players are because the system is going to get them a ton of yards/TDs.
(Except against Stanford, obviously.)
It's indescribable how much fun it is to watch Josh Garnett dominating for Stanford while we redefine struggling up the middle.
Mariotta can kiss the Heisman goodbye
-Racks up yardage between the 20's but garbage red zone offense
-Fumbles a lot
-Defense gets manhandled by power running teams
Fun to watch but ultimately not National Championship quality.
I really miss dominant manball
The only way Stanford could have a larger numerical advantage over Oregon is if ESPN put up the SAT scores.
Time of possession
Stanford pretty much owns the night.
Oregon wasn't scoring even when they had it most of the game
football Gods...do not let Ohio get in the National Championship game let alone win it. I will never hear the end of it.
God's probably busy, but Michigan can have a say about it.
I live in Michigan. I am more concerned about MSU actually making the Rose Bowl.