Looking forward to seeing how Ole Miss holds up against a real (OK, only, but better than Memphis) line without Oher.
Thursday NCAAFB Open Thread: #4 Ole Miss @ SoCar
If Lou is picking South Carolina because he thinks Garcia is a good quarterback, I'm definitely taking Ole Miss.
Nah, Garcia is just Lou's excuse to be a shameless homer as always. In his world ND and SC (not that SC) should play for the MNC every year.
Yeah, I thought Ole Miss would be favored by a bit more than that. Kinda strange.
Another betting line I saw that I found really strange was Stanford -9 vs Washington. What's the deal with that?
Maybe they think Washington will have a letdown after the big win? Even that shouldn't warrant such a big line the other way. I don't know a ton about betting lines so there is, I'm sure, a much better explanation than this.
I hope the ol' ball coach gets beat down!
...chug a beer every time one of the announcers calls Spurrier the OBC.
I'm not sold on Ole Miss. They lost alot on their OL, and they haven't played anyone so far this season. I like SC in a close game; Spurrier may have found his trigger man with Stephen Garcia.
sold on the Rebels either.
But Jevan Snead is the real deal, he will be the difference in this game.
I'll bet Garcia does one boneheaded thing and hurts his team.
but his decision making can be questionable at times. He picks up too many yards and TD's in garbage time.
I took South Carolina and the points. 4.5
I do feel Garcia is finally coming on. Maybe I'll eat those words in a few hours, we'll see. But, I like how consistent he's actually looked. He is still prone for major bonehead moves, but even those have really smoothed out.
I'm on the home dog with the better defense here. Love that they're way more battled tested too. Ole Miss might not be the best team they've faced, at least in their eyes as the game goes on, and that added confidence could push them to win straight up.
That said, I sucked last week, so maybe read this post backwards and see what you come up with.
have you seen Two for the money - when Matthew McConaghy (no idea how to spell it) goes on a bad streak - AL Pacino suggests they do a Twilight Zone style picks - the opposite of everything.
So, your bizarro approach is not that unprecedented.
No, I havent. I remember when it came out I thought it might something semi interesting to watch beause of the gambling hook, but obviously forgot about it. Is it worth checking out?
The opposite of what you think approach is time tested and true, especially when it comes to the NFL the last decade or so.
Also, in the same genre, the opposite of what the public thinks works well too.
So, any games you like this weekend? I'm breaking down the big 10 games right now, any thoughts on those games.
Also, I have been laughing all week at the fact USC is favored by 46.5 over Wassau.
I think CMU is going to destroy Akron, may even double up covering the spread (Akron's qb is suspended for the year and the backup was Sheridan-esque against IU last week) - that is the only one I'm really set on.
I'm torn on the Miami-VT game - I think the 'Canes are the real deal, but it is tough to win in blacksburg.
As a bettor you would get a kick out of Two for the Money - not a great movie by any means, but it is good entertainment.
I like the Canes. That is very abnormal of me as I usually would love the Hokies in conference game coin flip at home. I dont think the Hokies can score to keep pace and the defense has looked vulnerable enough that Jacori can do enough damage. He is so much the better QB than Taylor and thats the difference.
My only hold up is overall uneasiness about going against the Hokies at Lane Stadium.
Believe it or not, but I like Fresno +16 over Cincy. The Bulldogs always play their best in spots like this, big dogs, on the road against a touted BCS team. Plus, the line opened at 14 and look where it is now. I'd rather be on the books side.
Based on my picks last week, I would not count your money. However, I agree with your reasoning on the defense.
Gamecock's Total D is 15th Nationally and played @ Georgia pretty tough (L 37 - 41). Ole Miss has played NOBODY. I'll take the smelly genitals +4.
Smelly genitals = Houston's Nutts?
lulz, his name is Girly.
sigh... punches that will go unpunished by the SEC conference...
every time Jesse "the Bachelor" Palmer talks?
zOMG! PUNCHES THROWN! GET OFF YOUR TREADMILL, JIM DELANEY! WE NEED ACTION! WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
So does that count as Garcia's one bone head play by not protecting the ball? SoCar has looked like the better team so far.
Killed a nice drive that probably should have gone for a TD.
GO GIT EM REBS! I'm sorry that was the "McCoy" side of the family coming out there...But seriously Ole Miss should kill SC
I dont know if they've been focusing on it yet, but its fun to point out that Ole Miss Def Coord is Tyrone Nix who formerly served in that role for Spurrier at USC.
His defenses always seemed to fall apart, although they were very injury prone, the back half of seasons in South Carolina.
Anyway, just a rather bland coaching soap opera spice in the SEC
This head ref is definitely new at his job. He's fumbled a few calls so far.
Penalties, TO's not getting called, drops. Things just aren't going SC's way.
In all fairness, though, it seems like SC is playing kind of undisciplined football. 4, 5 offensive penalties in a single quarter? All of which are boneheaded nonsense (illegal shift/too many men in motion, false start, etc.).
If they settle down, they've got this. Ole Miss really doesn't look like all that, though Snead has made some nice throws to this point. At the same time, though, Miss has showed some signs of putting a fierce running game together. If that happens, I'm not optimistic about the SC D's ability to hold it off.
how much heat Houston Nutt got for switching teams within the conference? I don't remember hearing/reading too much about it.
canned at Arkansas - so I'm guessing it is not a big deal.
unlike Tubberville, who said he would be at Ole Miss for a long time (not sure of his exact words but it was something along those lines) then bolted for the Auburn job.
Guess I am not up on my SEC coaches. I was sitting here wondering how often you have two coaches who both started at other schools in the same conference. (I realize these were not first jobs) I know the OBC had mixed reviews for going to USC from the Gator Alumni. (My running buddy is a gator, I heard about it for a full season every saturday morning on our marathon training runs....)
I'm sure Spurrier's was an unpopular move, but it was somewhat mitigated by the fact that he went to the League for a year and failed horribly before coming back to the college ranks.
is so awful. Early today he called Tebow something along the lines of a big-hearted warrior - who doesn't beat you with his ability but his sheer will.
If ole miss can't line up on 3-2 and pound a first down they won't be number 4 for long.
I think the MSM went way overboard with the hype on Ole Miss; this team isn't even a top 25 team the way they are playing today. Snead looks terrible throwing today.
I like SC and the points. Their D is pretty stout and Ole Miss hasn't really shown me anything special. SC has a competent offense as well.
Some of these faces OBC has been making have been classic.
clock management - just terrible
Got my hopes up there for a second. Thought we'd actually see a touchdown. Impressive run after the catch though. OBC has some good strong WRs.
And FG it is. This is slightly better than watching an Mississippi State/Auburn game from any year other than this.
that MSU(not that MSU)Auburn game.
That was like an experiment in torture.
Major ups to the SC receiver with those YACs - very nice work.
Just as I suspected; Ole Miss OL isn't that good. South Carolina's D is teeing off Snead all night long, as his OL is giving him no pass pro. Looking good on South Carolina beating the spread for me.
awful - this is killing his draft stock - I don't think that S. Cack-a-lacky's D is all that great (see game v. Georgia).
And here comes a 1st and Goal go to another FG from the 13 yard line.
If the Gamecocks can score a TD here - they might ice this thing.
And there it is. Lots of time left. Can't call it iced yet.
I watched Snead and the Rebels take on Memphis in their opener, and based on that performance and what I've seen tonight, he does not strike me as someone that can go lead a team back from a 2-score deficit.
Is South Carolina really playing techno over the PA system? Dear god, let it never come to that.
Is it just me or is Tacopants the leading receiver for both teams?
he's doing his best Chris Johnson circa: one week ago impression. I wish he were on my fantasy team...
here's the problem I have with this game:
If Ole Miss comes back and pulls it out: SEC POWERHOUSE.
if USC (NTUSC) wins: OMG SEC DEPTH.
@prosb4hos with the screen grab
HT: (@TomVH, since he hadn't posted it here, I thought I'd share as every time I see him I've laughed)
A carolina win here and penn st win sat. means they'll be #3 or #4 next week. This just helps michigan get a shut to upset a great time at home Oct. 24th. Go carolina!
You know, I don't want to be a grammar Nazi, but damn that post was written worse than a 1st grader.
I had no idea 1st graders were so poorly written.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
sorry meant shot to upset a great team
I was never high on Ole Miss, but this is just depressing. This is the same USC (NTUSC) that was lit up by Georgia a few weeks ago. To only have 3 points entering the 4th quarter is insane.
The ginger ninja himself lit up the Gamecocks - and the ginger ninja is just not that good.
Man, where's the Grey's Anatomy Open Thread?
I don't care for a Grey's Anatomy Open Thread, but an Always Sunny in Philadelphia thread would be awesome. I was laughing so hard that I couldn't open my eyes.
better score a TD here - or this is over.
Playing Pirates of The Caribbean? or was that piped in?
Chances this turns into a shoot out in the last 10 minutes?I'm thinking minimal.
This could get interesting....
right back in this thing.
A three and out here will give them even more of the big MO
Did one of the announcers tell a story about how his roommate in college played intramural football and was a "baller"? Yes, yes, he did.
Can I get that minute of my life back? Sadly, no, I cannot.
just brought back memories of Andre Ware skipping passes of the Silverdome turf.
That's at least the second HORRIBLE call in this game. Phantom player down field, phantom fair catch.
Ref that is the signal for the ball being poision - not a fair catch - ever Fowler knew it.
Nice first down run by the Rebels - momentum is on their side.
Spy him and win South Carolina
grabbed - chalk up another missed call -
and to think people bitch about B10 refs.
That's less of a bad call in my e-pinion. Those can be easily missed. Calling an ineligible down field when every lineman has been backed up 3 yards and that fair catch are much much worse
In that same play didn't it seem like the WR intentionally tried to trip the guy that he was blocking when the guy got past him. It atleast kept the guy from getting the tackle.
play by Hardy, not too long ago this guy was a lock for a top 5 pick.
Five 3 and outs in a row, horrible play-calling, terrible execution, SC deserves to lose and Spurrier should be fired. Credit Ole Miss' d-line, but SC's o-line is playing awful, and Spurrier isn't putting the offense in position to succeed.
Geez, a little harsh, you think? They are (currently)beating the #4 team in the country.
going with the caveman offense - and it looks like it might work.
tricky - running I-form was working.
South Carolina is going to end up Mc Cluster fucked
that was an epic hit.
pretty absurd tackle.
I love me some Sandstorm...poor Sneed...
Wow, I must apologize to the Forcier for Heisman folks. If Snead is a legit Heisman candidate then so is Tate. (Snead is pretty good at handing off the ball.)
DOWN IN FRONT!
here - 14 yards or it is over.
that was just terrible -how do you do that after a timeout - gotta know the playcall/formation - fullbacks do not see the field on 4th and 14.
That was the worst performance by a team that won a game over a "top 5" team I've ever seen.
I love that SC wins and they are now a top 15 team.
I was thinking the same thing. He must have been channeling Lundquist or Danielson.
8. South Carolina
In all seriousness, guarantee South Carolina well ahead of Georgia.
The real question is who would win in a race: McCluster or Denard?
That can be solved easily. Who has longer dreads? Dread Length = Speed.
That school, the team and the fans are a disgrace. They wave confederate flags around since its their heritage or whatever. I'm glad they lost. Also proves once again the SEC is over rated.
It does not prove how over rated they are... It proves that the SEC is deep! Yall have some lernin to do.
Damn you beat me to it
How does that prove the SEC is over rated? A team in the SEC beat another team in the SEC and it just proves that the conference is deeper than we may think.
You do realize they are the Rebels, the Confederate army was routinely called the Rebels and their soldiers were referred to as Johnny Reb.
Couldn't agree more. Celebrating secession is an awful thing. I'd expect better from Ole Miss fans, but I'd also expect them to be able to be read.
Perhaps, a bit too much to expect.
FWIW, I come from a state with a massive memorial to the War of Northern Aggression. It's not to celebrate secession, but rather to celebrate the life of the men who fought and died to defend the 10th amendment of the Constitution. What's more patriotic than defending the Constitution?
Yeah, I know, ridiculous. That's just how it's billed in these parts. Anyway, the school has been making attempts for the last ~20 years to downplay some of the imagery, it's just going to be a really slow process.
Nutt's going to be kicking himself for that second-down playcall. Your offense is finally starting to move down the field and you go for razzle-dazzle right then?
Fuuuuuuuugly. What a terrible game.
Something I've continued to wonder about is the resolute mediocrity of SC football. Is it bad recruiting and middling development? Decent recruiting and terrible coaching? Does Spurrier just not really care anymore?
If the team just played cleaner, were in better shape, etc. they'd be an occasional contender. But as such, just a blah program.
Don't forget that they share a smallish state with another big school (Clemson). Should we really expect them to be good?
I'm actually glad that their student body didn't rush then field, and the players didn't celebrate like they won a BCS bowl game. Ole Miss clearly wasn't a top 5 team as they did nothing this year that would warrant such a lofty rating.
Always glad to see pretender teams drop off. Plus not too sad to see a top ranked SEC team go down as well.