Oren Wilson, Chris Rucker, and Myles White all have plead guilty.
Three more msu players plead guilty
"All 11 current or former Michigan State players charged in the case have pleaded guilty and await sentencing."
11 out of 85. 13%. Dantonio is such a great father...
It's more like 11/125. There are 85 scholies, but about 40 more people on the team. So put them down for 8.8%
EDIT: though I think all of them were on scholarships, so yeah, 13%.
If this was Michigan the Freep would be running headlines talking about Rich Rodriguez inability to control his team. When it's St. Mark at the Little Brother the silence is damning.
Mark Dantonio...currently dominating instate football incarceration.
School A gets penalized when they make sure their students attend class but School B can have over 10% of their team arrested for assault and receive no punishment
How can you be a student or an athlete when you are getting in trouble. I understand a coach cannot control everything their players do, but its odd that UM is getting punished for having too much control in some sense, while MSU sees no punishment for their very obvious lack of control.
Man, they could have the all jail team here soon.
Don't throw stones...because there's a lot of shit talking about our program going on right now.
Every program has players that get in trouble. That's college football.
Not every program has their players repeat the same offenses, or have 10% of their frickin team assault a house full of people. And punching women in the face for good measure.
Yeah everybody does that...
There are different levels of "getting in trouble"...trouble for stretching too long, trouble for not recording things, trouble for when people's faces run into your fist...
While it is strange that MSU is getting off relatively scot-free with respect to this assault, the NCAA has limited jurisdiction and my guess is that they have limited recourse against a school if its players go on a punching spree. Of course, if MSU is found guilty of any other type of violation that the NCAA has more control of (perhaps, I don't know, spending more than 20 hours a week doing "football-related" activities), the NCAA could consider this history of repeat violence as a lack of institutional control. So while MSU might be getting off relatively clean right now, I would be amazed if this didn't bite them in the end.
And let's not forget, UM is a much, MUCH bigger fish in the sea compared to MSU. Same with FIU and SDSU. The NCAA knows that people care if a major program like UM, USC, or Alabama seemingly had an improper advantage - if MSU, SDSU, or FIU are guilty of breaking the rules, at best that equated to making some third-tier bowl game or winning 4 games instead of 3 in a season. History and prestige seems to matter to the NCAA, so MSU being overlooked somewhat may also be a by-product of their general irrelevance in football.
The idea that the NCAA goes after the big fish is laughable if anything the inverse is true they punish the weak universities and let the big ones off. See Alabama or USC. In fact there is an old joke that if Alabama screws up again then Eastern Tennessee is really in trouble.
The NCAA has as much jurisdiction as they want. If the NCAA really wanted to pin something on a team and the school was not cooperating, they could take away their membership to the NCAA. That would mean any other teams that play them do not get that game recognized in their record, no one would be willing to play them and that school would fall apart.
I doubt the NCAA would ever take such extreme measures, but they can do whatever they want to whichever schools they choose as long as that school is one of their members.
To be honest I’m a little tired of the MSU assault bashing stuff. I’m not saying that this isn’t a valid topic, as I think if this is any Big Ten team it has an effect on Michigan and can make a legit board topic. However, like Raback said above me, it’s bad to throw stones at a time like this. I’m not equating what’s going on with us to what’s going on with them, but neither is good.
Let MSU fans can call us scUM (the worst insult ever) and our coach Dick Rod, but please leave the Dumbtonio (the second worst insult I’ve ever heard) and assault bashing stuff alone. I feel like our main objective is to worry about Michigan, not another school, because, to be honest ever sense we’ve started having losing seasons it seems like we are more worried about what’s going on at MSU then we used to be. I think winning will turn our focus back on ourselves, but just because we had a couple bad seasons doesn’t mean we need to be so caught up in this stuff.
And yeah, I understand I only have like 50 points and don’t really have a rite of passage as some of the more prevalent around here, but I felt it should be said.
I have no problem with holding Misdemeanor State responsible for their actions. It was MSU fans who came up with "Remedial Robinson," and it was Tom Izzo who has used the Ed Martin scandal to build his basketball team into an elite program. And it is MSU fans who are the loudest about Michigan being "cheaters."
So, I have no problem with creating a brand name for Misdemeanor State that causes future recruits and their parents to consider the possibility that MSU is not the best place to spend four years if you want to avoid a criminal envrionment.
At Michigan, in Ann Arbor?
can they get put on any kind of probation for this?
They can be put on the kind of probation that happens when they are let out of their orange jumpsuits early.
the Freep article said that Chris L Rucker attempted to kick somebody, but missed. I bet that somebody was wearing a McNutt Iowa jersey, faked left then cut right for the easy reception.
You're as masochistic as the rest of us, I mean we do watch our basketball team. Are you aure you're not a Michigan fan?
if you've been following this team the last few years:
2003 Michigan (Chris Perry)
2004 Michigan (Braylon)
2005 Ohio State (Blocked FG)
2006 ND (the epic collapse)
2009 Texas Tech
hopefully that's the last of it
Ugh, that 2006 ND collapse was absolutely epic. I can't stand ND, and I cheer for every Big Ten team to beat them. I've never before watched a game where I was so sure the game was over, only to see the other team come back and win.
How does one violate NCAA violations? Thanks, I'll hang up and listen...
I think one violates violations by keeping the rules, no? maybe? Shit, I don't know.
Now THIS is why we have the points system. Looks like it's time to take out the trash.
They could make a documentary about the real Penitentiary Bowl between MSU and the guards. I'll take the guards.