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Three and Out - QB Recruiting

In Three and Out - The QB's talk about when they were being recruited.  Devin jokes about only taking one visit and Michigan not giving him anything.  They don't say Denard specifically, but the other QB talked about visiting SEC schools...

One powerful SEC school had  2 attractive coeds waiting in his bed when he got back to his hotel room.

Another SEC school gave him a rental car for the weekend and told him "you dont have to return that".

The third SEC school promised to pay for his sister's tuition.

I'm sure no one is surprised by this, but I took a look at the SEC schools Denard visited and Flordia and Georgia must be two of them.  Not sure what other SEC school he visited, maybe Auburn?  Urban Meyer was at Florida at this time and of course now he's probably back to his old ways at OSU.

I'd love to hear more recruiting stories.  I'm kind of surprised more recruits don't talk about what they were offered.  I remember seeing a Clemson freshman posting a pic of him on twitter with a stack of cash.  Another player (at Auburn maybe) posted pics of a brand new black Camaro. 

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:44 AM | Well it was left vague, but (Score:3 Normal)
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Well it was left vague, but it leaves a question of whether Tate Forcier had any SEC visits. I don't know because I wasn't closely following recruiting at that time.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:46 AM | Rivals lists Denard as (Score:3 Normal)
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Rivals lists Denard as visiting: Michigan, Florida, Georgia, UCF, and Kansas St

Tate is only listed as visiting Michigan and Penn st on his profile (obviously could be omissions)

 

 
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January 13th, 2012 at 10:47 AM | Finished it last night (Score:5 Normal)
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And also read that portion... there was little question it was about a certain recruit from Deerfield Beach, Florida.

What an amazing coincidence it was that not one poor young lady mistakenly entered the recruit's room to go to bed, but TWO!  I sure hope the res hall officials helped these young women find their way back to their appropriate lodging...

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM | I might have to skip ahead to that part . . . (Score:3 Normal)
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re-living the 2008 season has been brutal.  I felt like smashing my head into the wall on several occasions and would have except I did want to have to clean it up afterwards.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:07 AM | Yeah (Score:2)
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After resurrecting all the buried emotions and feelings we've worked so hard to move on from, the second season is easily the worst.  Reading about Tate throwing that pick in East Lansing, or the defense laying down to die in Illinois... well, there's a reason we remember the good in life and forget the bad.  This book, as amazing as it is, is not that reason.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:45 AM | Same here. (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm only through the first 150 or so pages, but I've wanted to skip ahead on many occasions. Entertaining book, but the 2008 stuff is just plain brutal.

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:48 AM | It would not be wise for (Score:5 Normal)
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It would not be wise for Urban to do anything that will bring the NCAA back to OSU. They just found out that they are not untouchable. I really think they thought the NCAA was in their back pocket.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | If anything, the lesson they (Score:5 Normal)
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If anything, the lesson they learned was:

cheat hard, win, lie, mediocre for a year, rinse, repeat.  

 
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January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 AM | Fire coach is after lie, but (Score:1 Normal)
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Fire coach is after lie, but right on man. Right on.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:25 AM | Emmert will not always be (Score:1)
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Emmert will not always be there to cover OSU's ass, and if Gee keeps running his mouth he will also be gone.

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January 13th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | Let's hope Urban fires him. (Score:5 Normal)
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Let's hope Urban fires him.

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January 13th, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Fictional +1 (Score:1 Trolling)
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January 13th, 2012 at 10:51 AM | Does anyone else wonder how (Score:5 Normal)
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Does anyone else wonder how much the GIRLS are getting compensated?  I mean, they are prosititutes by definition, but they must be getting enough to not want to raise a stink.

"Welllllllll..."

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | And I'll call "phrasing!" on (Score:5 Normal)
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And I'll call "phrasing!" on my last statement. #archer

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | They're (Score:5 Normal)
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they're called Hookers after they're dead, Cyril!

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:26 AM | Craig James may know (Score:4 Normal)
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Craig James may know something about that, or 5.

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January 13th, 2012 at 1:47 PM | Back next Thursday! (Score:2 Normal)
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"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | I'm sure the girls volunteer, (Score:1)
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I'm sure the girls volunteer, its prolly something they almost do on there own with some encouragement from the players more than the coaches, and no one stops it from happening.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:50 AM | I do not (Score:4 Normal)
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believe men in powerful positions automatically and completely lose all ability to decipher between right and incomprehensibly wrong.  I do not believe that Nick Saban, Urban Meier, and Les Miles smile and interact appropriate with other people, buy coffee at the Dunkin Donuts on the way to the office before leaving a modest tip, pick up a copy of USA today and then slip into their office to become sociopaths willing to completely abandon any moral compass of any kind to lure players to their school.  Do I believe players get paid at time, yes.  Do I believe players get cars at times, yes.  Do I believe players have their sisters tuition payed for, yes.  Do I believe tha coaches participate in the recruitment of two female college students, pay them, and see to it that they await a football recruit in bed to have sex with him, turning them from student to prostitute?  Yes, just before returning home to bath in the blood of sacrificed people chained in their basement and sharpening wooden bullets to get them through metal detectors.  Come on guys. 

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January 13th, 2012 at 3:24 PM | c'mon (Score:0 Flamebait)
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the "game" is played a little differently south of the mason dixon line.  most coaches turn a blind eye to the tactics of boosters, while others are more directly involved.  this is why i've always thought of osu as a southern school.

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | They're actually on the (Score:4 Normal)
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They're actually on the university payroll at Auburn (tax payer money at work).

 

http://sportsbybrooks.com/auburn-payroll-tens-of-thousands-to-hostesses-29756

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM | Well, I'd guess they're (Score:4 Normal)
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Well, I'd guess they're getting compensated in some way...

...but there are plenty of girls out there who are just willing to hook up with star athletes for the fun of it.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:06 AM | True.  And now that I think (Score:2)
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True.  And now that I think about it, I know there were a good handful of girls at my alma mater , which was a pretty solid D-III program, seemed enamored by football players.  And we were a pretty small school, so multiply this by at least 10, and I'm sure you're bound to find some girls that are willing.  Although, the girls at my college were shacking up with players, and not recruits.

I guess I'm not too surprised by the story. I mean, come on:  

Female + Denard's smile = you do the math...

"Welllllllll..."

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:24 AM | Times 10? (Score:2)
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Maybe times 100 at a big football program like Florida.

Who can forget that even such wildly popular programs as the lacrosse & baseball teams at Duke attracted groupies.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Does that include you Magnus? (Score:2 Normal)
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Does that include you Magnus?

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:54 AM | Whether you mean I'm a star (Score:2 Normal)
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Whether you mean I'm a star athlete or that I am willing to hook up with star athletes, the answer is yes.

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January 13th, 2012 at 1:52 PM | I knew a girl at Arizona (Score:1 Normal)
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Was never sure if she got tip offs, but she knew when the big recruits (make your own joke) were coming to town, and continued with the players who ended up on the team, and then followed the NBA too.  And other sports. Coaches too.  It was just kinda her thing. I don't think they were actively paying her. But they were disduading her, and for someone who wasn't sure who was ranked where, she knew a lot about when they were coming to town.  So someone was letting her know.  Take that for what it's worth.

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:59 AM | I think the proper definition (Score:2 Normal)
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I think the proper definition for them is call-girls

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:29 AM | Well played.  But keep in (Score:2 Normal)
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Well played.  But keep in mind, when they're dead, they're just hookers.  Such as:  "Craig James killed 5 hookers at SMU."

"Welllllllll..."

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:22 AM | @ Rocky (Score:1)
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You actually used the words prostitutes and stink in the same sentence.

A proud first member of the Hoke Pointed at Me Club since 1/12/11.

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January 14th, 2012 at 12:21 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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They get to "network". I hear that this is really important these days.

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:51 AM | SEC (Score:1)
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"They know how to get it done."

 Sam Webb

 

I'll always remember that quote whenever I hear someone say, SEC.

Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.

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January 13th, 2012 at 6:47 PM | SEC motto:  "If you ain't (Score:1)
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SEC motto:  "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin' ".

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | Denard also visited UCF, (Score:2 Normal)
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Denard also visited UCF, which is as dirty as it gets.

Florida and Georgia are widely regarded as being "clean" as far as college football programs go (as far as I've heard).

SEC West + South Carolina and Clemson on the other hand...

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM | It specifically said "SEC" (Score:1 Normal)
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It specifically said "SEC" and Denard was the only one to officially visit an SEC school.  Maybe Tate or Devin made unofficial visits to those places, but I think it's pretty clear that the story was about Denard.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | When has Florida been regarded as clean? (Score:2 Normal)
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They had the highest number of arrests, magically were amazing in basketball, had Cam Newton on the roster (with Tebow).

Tebow may be clean, but Florida was not.

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:37 AM | How to define a "clean" program (Score:3 Normal)
French West Indian
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I'm not sure that I would necessarily equate arrests with the cleanliness of a program.  We all think of Michigan as clean but over the years M football players have been arrested (and kicked off of the team) for everything from drugs to masturbating on someone's porch. 

The description of a program as clean tends to hae more to do with the program's record of NCAA compliance.

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Wait, what?! Someone was (Score:2 Normal)
UMichYank11
Joined: 04/26/2011
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Wait, what?! Someone was caught stroking one out on someone's porch?! When?! LOL! How desperate are you for a whack that you just are like "meh, this person's porch will do"?

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January 13th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | My interpretation of the (Score:5 Funny)
El Jeffe
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My interpretation of the "Yank" in your handle just shifted a little.

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January 13th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | If rubbing one out on another (Score:2)
brandanomano
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If rubbing one out on another person's porch is an arrestable offense, I'm a VERY wanted man.

Special Teams means special times!

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January 13th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | 30 players in 6 years! (Score:2 Normal)
jblaze
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Every team has their BooBoo or Stonum, but 30 players in 6 years! My God man,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Meyer

Is anyone surprised that he hooked up hookers for HS recruits?

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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January 13th, 2012 at 12:45 PM | Would have loved to have seen (Score:2 Normal)
coastal blue
Joined: 11/13/2010
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Tebow come back to his hotel room and find two Florida coeds on his bed. 

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January 13th, 2012 at 2:41 PM | You share the same fantasy (Score:3 Normal)
brandanomano
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You share the same fantasy with everybody currently working for ESPN.

Special Teams means special times!

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January 13th, 2012 at 2:46 PM | Nope, but they did introduce (Score:2)
gajensen
Joined: 02/02/2011
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Nope, but they did introduce him to two nuns.

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January 13th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | Am i the only one around here (Score:3 Normal)
mGrowOld
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Am i the only one around here who is really, really tired of the "Urban Meyer is a cheater" meme?    The dude may not be a the strictest disciplinarian in the world, may believe that oversigning is just pushing the current rules to their limits while not technically breaking them, may have an affinity for coeds (allegedly), may have serious health issues (allegedly) and may or may not want to spend more time with his family.

But the dude can flat out coach and last time I checked, none of his previous three schools got in any trouble of any severity with the NCAA.  Can we please just let this one die on the same pile we burned the old RR, Penn State & look how funny Sparty is cause their mad we got to go to a BCS game and they didn't posts?

 

 

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:21 AM | Over-signing (Score:4 Normal)
Erik_in_Dayton
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I don't believe that Meyer oversigned while at Florida.  I think that he and Richt were the ones that didn't/don't do that (among the major players in the SEC - I'm not including Vanderbilt). 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:28 AM | Actually (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Mr. Robot
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We don't really know that he can coach. After he lost his coordinators, Florida promptly tanked in his last season there and he resigned. It is completely possible he is not a great coach on his own and just had a good set of coordinators.

"Good evening, and welcome to Michigan Stadium for this the one-hundred thirty-second season of Michigan football, and the thirty-ninth meeting between Michigan and Notre Dame." -Carl Grapentine, September 10, 2011

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:35 AM | The "we're not sure if Urban (Score:5 Normal)
elaydin
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The "we're not sure if Urban Meyer can coach" meme can also stop.

If Meyer can't coach, who do you think CAN coach?

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January 13th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | Your kidding right? Bowling (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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Your kidding right?

Bowling Green        17-6

Utah                          22-2

Florida                      65-15

Plus two MNCs.  I'd say the jury is in on his coaching abilities.  Wishful thinking Mgoblog board posters notwithstanding.

 

 

 

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January 13th, 2012 at 12:10 PM | I don't agree that Meyer (Score:2 Normal)
BradP
Joined: 10/17/2010
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I don't agree that Meyer isn't a good coach, but....

Dan Mullen was his QB coach at BG, his offensive coordinator at Utah, and his OC at Florida up until that last year when the wheels fell off.

One constant under Meyer was excellent QB play, and I wouldn't say that that trend is certain to continue.

Of course, Tom Herman appears to be the real deal, so even if Meyer relies on ace coordinators, he's still got one helping him.

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