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By M-Wolverine — January 6th, 2011 at 10:36 PM — 289 comments
Every thread not matter the subject ends up being the same thing. At least you don't have to scroll through miles to get through this one.

Come on...you know you want to.

I'll start: Glen Steele likes Brady Hoke more than you do-

"Coach Hoke has a defensive mind-set, he's a defensive guy, and he loves to coach — he loves what he's doing and being around the guys," said Glen Steele, a defensive end on Carr's 1997 national championship team, which had Hoke as its defensive line coach.
"I'm a huge supporter of Coach Hoke. When you're looking for someone to come in and address where this team is and where it could be, I don't think there's any better guy."

"It's hard to characterize him because he's such an overall good guy," Steele said. "But he knows when to kick it up, and he also knows when to say to a player: 'Hey, we've got to re-focus and get this done.'
"With coaches, there's always a point where screaming and yelling and getting guys fired up is important, and then there's the time when you say: 'Hey, we're all in this together and we've gotta pick it up.' With a coach like him, you don't have to throw fuel on the fire. Players wantto play for him."

(From the dreaded Henning article that Brian linked from the DetNews)

Don't feel you have to talk about Hoke. Open CC/Brandon/everything ever other thread is.

Anyone subjecting themselves to the GoDaddy.com Bowl with (nt)Miami and MTS?
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January 6th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Go daddy (Score:1)
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You asked and yes I'm watching. A good friend's son is on Miami's team. Go Redhawks!

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | Anarchy. I love it. (Score:1)
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Anarchy. I love it.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:31 PM | Rat Bastard (Score:1)
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Yes!  I say this for every thread lately..."What kind of rat bastard psychotic would play this very song (this very thread) at this very moment."

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:33 PM | Let's get down to brass tax, (Score:1)
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Let's get down to brass tax, how much do you want for the ape?

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:42 PM | Arsenal for This Trip Called Coach Search (Score:1)
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And this is what I need for the coach search (Fear and Loathing on the Coach Search Campaign or something like that)...

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | As your attorney, I advise (Score:1)
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As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much, just a tiny taste. 

"Play hard and with great effort"

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January 7th, 2011 at 12:17 AM | Sums up U of M coaching search in 25 seconds... (Score:1)
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January 7th, 2011 at 12:22 AM | You Fiend (Score:1)
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Love me some Hackney...excellent video!

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January 7th, 2011 at 12:35 AM | Dammit. I pinned this up on my bulletin board with brass tacks, (Score:1)
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just so I don't forget about it. Tell me about this brass tax. Should I be buying or selling? 

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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January 7th, 2011 at 12:40 AM | Sell. I am expecting an (Score:1)
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Sell. I am expecting an extension of Brass Tax.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:46 PM | Posted from the Revolution (Score:1)
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You would.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:11 PM | Holy crap, that was the (Score:1)
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Holy crap, that was the slowest interception return I've seen in a long time.  He gets 4 FAKES out of 5 with a list 5.2 40 time.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Secret Ingredient (Score:1)
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I have no problem with the head coaching selection...as long as he is willing to bring in the great Ron English, who doesn't seem to be having too much fun at Eastern.

Hail To the Victors...In Ohio

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:15 PM | Whoever becomes the new coach (Score:1)
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Whoever becomes the new coach is gonna get support from me. Can't have a divided fanbase again.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:34 PM | I think (Score:1)
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that was one of the problems

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:15 PM | Patterson: great coach with (Score:1)
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Patterson: great coach with a horrible voice.  Always sounds like someone is squeezing his vocal chords.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:17 PM | OK, I am throwing an insane idea out here. (Score:1)
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Cam Cameron.

On Bo's staff, check.
Head coaching experience, in the Big Ten and NFL, check.
Midwestern ties, check
Was a graduate assistant with Mike Trgovac, for what it's worth.
Works for a Harbaugh, check.

I understand, it's hard to see a successful NFL offensive coordinator being eager to leave that position.  I understand that he was 18-37 at Indiana.  I understand that he was 1-15 as the Dolphins head coach.  But if we're just going for off the wall ideas, is this wholy unfeasible?
 

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:44 PM | He wasn't a real popular guy (Score:1)
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With a lot of people. Turned people off. Isn't exactly young anymore either.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Yes (Score:1)
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18-37 at Indiana. 1-15 with the Dolphins.

I'd say that's a pretty shitty track record.



 

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:54 PM | precisely.  not him please. (Score:1)
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precisely.  not him please.

"Play hard and with great effort"

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:59 PM | That's what I thought.  I was (Score:1)
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That's what I thought.  I was honestly just trying to get a sense of the oblique deflection off the John Harbaugh rumors and that's where my brain went.

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"The Michigan fanbase: a cynical, Eeyorish bunch even in the best of times."

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | Great Idea. (Score:1)
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We'll Hire Mike Hart as our head coach, then put Charles Woodson as the defensive coordinator and Desmond Howard as the offensive coordinator.  Tom Brady could be the QB coach, Wheatley the backs coach, Long the line coach, and then we could have Branch be the D-Line Coach, and Woodley to be the Linebackers coach.  All Michigan Men!

Shock the world
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January 6th, 2011 at 11:23 PM | Lock MGoBlog (Score:1)
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.

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | sexual sex (Score:1)
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sexual sex

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | Your post...combined with (Score:1)
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Your post...combined with your avatar...

 

Haunting.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:21 PM | Still drunk (Score:1)
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Wake me up when we can pos bang again.

I have a Fandom Endurance III merit badge

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | Hoke sounds like a great DL coach (Score:1)
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sure, bring him along if the new guy and his coordinator don't mind

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:27 PM | I live in San Diego (Brady Hoke warning) (Score:1)
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and I'm a diehard Um fan and reader of this blog everyday for three years (just now signing up).  I obviously listen to the SD sports radio to hear the opinions of people regarding Hoke.  I'm not enamored with the guy for all the reasons people have stated but I will say this.  I have never heard anyone out here, a past player, or someone who knows him say anything but great things.

Everyone out here loves the guy and they can not stand the thought of losing him.  They were up in arms today because it was reported he did not buy a house here and only rents demonstrating he never intended to stay long.  I don't like the idea of the dark age Michigan coach yet if he can get an o coordinator that is progressive and d coordinator with a pedigree of succes, then I think he would have a fighting chance.  The players as SDSU love him, everyone says he is a great recruiter, and the praise he gets from past coaching mates is impressive.

Beyond all that, the thing that would prevent me from pulling my hair out were he hired is this: his dream is to be the coach at UM, he has told everyone forever, and anyone who has that much passion for the university and team should get some slack when it comes to lack of experience or age (my humble opinion)

"Those who make it past coaching three years...may end up possibly being Champions!"

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:35 PM | Not trying to be a downer, (Score:1)
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Not trying to be a downer, but a lot of Michigan fans really liked RR as did the players. Doesn't mean that it worked out as the head coach.

Point I'm trying to make is that being a likeable guy doesn't really have a correlation with being an effective football coach.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Well, then, Hoke's perfect (Score:1)
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The fans will hate him, and then he'll win.



Wait, what...?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:39 PM | Nice post, and I appreciate the viewpoint (Score:1)
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I still view him as a fall back, but this is intriguing.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:27 PM | The last metro detroit team that hired a D Line coach... (Score:1)
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Was the Lions with Marinelli. That worked out soooo well.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:32 PM | Chuck Heater (Score:1)
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I haven't read anyone's thoughts here about Chuck Heater, though I have seen his name brought up elsewhere. I actually think he could be a really good option, given his defensive and recruiting background. He played at Michigan with DB and has a background as an assistant in the midwest (OSU, Wisconsin, and ND). Since he wasn't retained at Florida now that Meyer is gone, I think he could be a great snag.

"For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, GO BLUE!" - MSC

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:44 PM | Yessssss (Score:1)
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This is exactly how I feel. I wanna punch something

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:38 PM | Warning:drinking and blogging tonight... (Score:1)
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I'm going on the offensive: Mike Martz!

"Don't stop your feet on contact!"

-Brady Hoke

Newsflash, if we don't win Rose Bowl '13 we will have little choice but to lay the blame on Kate Upton.  That is all!

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:39 PM | My brother knows a guy... (Score:1)
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whose landlord is a brother-in-law to a guy that mows Dave Brandon's lawn. And he saw Ferris Bueller pass out at 31 Flavors last night.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:39 PM | The anxiety of the unknown is too much! (Score:1)
myantoniobass d...
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Joined: 09/30/2010
MGoPoints: 519

Just wake me up in 20 years when this guy is our head coach...

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:40 PM | Boom, 200'd. Next. (Score:1)
Captain
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Joined: 06/12/2009
MGoPoints: 11602

Boom, 200'd.

Next.

Colors That Float

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:41 PM | This cat means we have surpassed 200 (Score:1)
Rescue_Dawn
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Joined: 07/30/2009
MGoPoints: 4199

My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:45 PM | What's the cat in the back (Score:1)
Wes Mantooth
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Joined: 07/28/2009
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What's the cat in the back doing?  Are those spinning plates?  Tambourines?  I don't know, this whole thing is freaking me out...

The Human Torch was denied a bank loan.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:48 PM | Glow sticks (Score:1)
Rescue_Dawn
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glow sticks

My self-esteem is directly related to my MgoPoints.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | Funniest thing i have ever (Score:1)
Knappster
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Joined: 09/03/2009
MGoPoints: 1371

Funniest thing i have ever seen in my life.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:57 PM | bonkers. kill it with fire. (Score:1)
entirely reasonable
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Joined: 07/24/2008
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bonkers.

kill it with fire.

"Play hard and with great effort"

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:41 PM | Not that anyone cares but this bowl (Score:1)
Jim Harbaugh Sc...
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 435

is rather entertaining.  Probably more fun than arguing.

http://twitter.com/#!/JHScramble

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:48 PM | I'm watching and rooting for (Score:1)
Wes Mantooth
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I'm watching and rooting for Miami (NTM).  It's a pretty good game so far...

The Human Torch was denied a bank loan.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:42 PM | 200, Make another one? (Score:1)
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200, Make another one?

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:45 PM | DB's comments about big money (Score:1)
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Joined: 12/01/2010
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DB's comments about big money make me think there's a dark horse out there with a lot of collegiate success. Just looking down the list and one name that I haven't heard mentioned as an outside chance is Stoops. 

Seems crazy...

That's just like your opinion man...

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:47 PM | I agree.  The only thing (Score:1)
Wes Mantooth
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I agree.  The only thing worse than hiring an unproven coach is paying big money for one.

The Human Torch was denied a bank loan.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:52 PM | I tend (Score:1)
xin44
Joined: 01/06/2011
MGoPoints: 87

to agree I dont think DB is going to settle for Brady Hoke. He has way to much at stake.

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January 6th, 2011 at 11:47 PM | Not gonna happen but I think (Score:1)
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Joined: 05/13/2010
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Not gonna happen but I think Sean Payton would be a great college coach and would like to see him here

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