this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
Thoughts on Trey Burke
Let him fall straight to the Pistons!
Would be VERY nice
The best college players don't always make the best pro players. Since 1992, 9/20 Naismith award winners have made an all-star game. One of those was Jameer Nelson... -__- The physical knocks on Burke are legit. However, we've all seen that measurables aren't the most reliable tool when predicting success of draft picks (in any sport) either.
There's a big diference between college and the NBA and one of the key factors are the athletes involved. You don't have to have everything to be successful in the NBA, but teams are always going to draft that athletic upside over the college production.
True, however only 12/20 number one picks in the same time frame have been to an all star game. Nothing is guaranteed.
Jameer Nelson has been a legitimate NBA point guard, and has had a decent career. He was stuck with glory-hog, ball-hog, and all around pig Dwight Howard as his main option for eight years, and has still managed 12.6 and 5.2 for his career.
This year, after Howard got both his coach and GM fired before getting yet another coach fired in LA less than six months later, Nelson's numbers went up to 14.7 and 7.4. I'm sure Burke wouldn't mind having nine solid years in the NBA, as Nelson has had.
12 and 5 a game isn't bad, for an average NBA starter. A 9 year career is an accomplishment. But, do you think those are the numbers of an all star?
He was enormously successful in college as a non-prototypical PG (at least by NBA standards), so of course it's going to generate attention. That's the price he pays for the success he had in college: additional scrutiny. People are also a lot more critical of LeBron James when he has an off game (or an off half, as the case may be) than they are of guys on the bench.
Predicting the success of a player on the next level is all guess work in my opinion. Thats why these pro teams go through all the nonsense during combines just to draft a bunch of busts high and let someone else land the gems in the later rounds. It's almost impossible to predict off measurables or previous success.
The Player of the Year is going to draw more criticism due to more media coverage. At the end of the day, we'll always cherish the memories he gave us here at Michigan.
Let the haters hate... Trey is one helluva player.
Lost in Trey's offensive prowess was the fact that he was in the top 5 in steals in the conference at 1.6 per game. Trey also had a fair amount of blocks for a guard his size as Peyton Siva attest.
Can attest to.
Being a sickly individual right now, all I've done this morning is watch ESPN's coverage of the NBA finals aka LeBron's block. I can't help but ponder the alternate reality where Trey's block on Siva is called correctly, leading to a come-from-behind win for Michigan, one where that play becomes THE play of the year. Every other block would instantly be compared to Trey's, including LeBron's most recent.
Sadly, all I can do is ponder...
does not equate to good defense. It could mean that the player gambled too much on defense trying to go for the ball.
Trey isn't a great defensive PG, but he can improve on it in the next level
They are nearly the same size with Burke actually being a little bigger. Both left after their sophomore season. Iverson averaged 22.9 and was Big East defensive POY. Burke averaged 18.6 last year and was national POY.
Iversons ppg is higher because he too 200 more shots over the same 2 years. % wise they ar almost the same. Iverson became a ME guy or got worse about it in the NBA. I hope that doesn't happen to Trey.
The book is writen on AI. No help. No supporting cast (in his prime) he dragged the 6ers to the Finals by himself and won a game on the Lakers' home floor. Insanely competitive, very athletic, but a real chucker.
If he had any real help in Philly they could've made some noise in the Finals
To Iverson's are you?
I know who I'd rather have play for Michigan, but in the NBA there isn't much comparison.
I agree. AI can blow by anybody with ease but Burke sometime struggle against quicker or bigger defensive G.
What Trey excel is running the pick and rolls and is an efficient scorer, Pick and Rolls are a staple in the NBA offensive set and it should bode well for Burke in the next level.
To me, his pro comparison is Damian Lillard. Both are smallish PG who is an efficient scorer and excels in pick and rolls.
It probably seems that way because you are reading more things on Burke because you have a vested interest in him being from UM and because he is one of the more covered players with all his decorations on his mantle
Forgot to add that they have criticism of every player, many of them significant, for all the players in this years draft. It's a weak one. Most years Trey wouldn't be picked tip 8-12. But this year he could go top 5
Trey's calm demeanor reminds me a lot of Joe Dumars when he played. Unflappable. Steady. A true leader. Traits any team could use at the point. I'm really hoping the Pistons nab him! He will only get better in the coming years!