Don't really care who does it, so long as they aren't stupid and they HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL.
Thoughts on Dileo returning punts
If my anxious level could go down from a 10/10 to even an at best subdued 7/10 on punts I would be so joyful.
I'll take your post one step further . . . If Michigan could reach an agreement with the rest of their opponents this year that neither team can kick under any circumstances (neither punts nor field goals) my stress level will go down exponentially!
I actually dont think there will be a change. If there is I hope its Roy. Another poster made this suggestion and I agree.
It will not be Roy. He is Denard's go-to receiver - way too valuable to risk an injury to his skinny frame. If it is anyone, it will probably be Dileo.
weren't 4 feet tall with a QB that liked to throw to them right as a cement truck was about to run them over.
AFAIK, Roundtree isn't even an option. I've never heard of him practicing punt returns. He's really not all that elusive/fast, so I don't think he would make a good punt returner.
I would just prefer that they sent Odoms deep again. Look, I know he was a walking fumble in 08 and in some circumsances last year, but he also took one to the house and doesn't seem to have any lingering "dropsies" right now. If we have to put somebody back, and there are not any really great options, I just say put the guy back that has already made the mistakes that Gallon is making right now. I thought Odoms was a talented returner if he could just HOTTGDB and perhaps that comes with age.
And I would not put Roundtree back there. He is a serious stud in the making at wide receiver, keep him there and only there.
i see the punt returner being of the same mental make up of a baseball closer. they are in the game about the same amount of time (unless your punt returner happens to be in top three WR) under an extreme amount of pressure to produce. Much more intense for a short period of time than being a reciever who stays in the game and has some time to adjust to the speed of the game. they are much more likely to get blasted more regularly, needeing very quick decision making and a mentality they are going to run through a wall to help your team. of course WR can hit hard and have to come across the middle but i still see PR as different. using our best WR (like magnus was saying is risky at best). it seems like a lot of the recruiting info on dileo included how good he was returning punts. i assume the coaches have been testing this out with him specifically. i hope we see him soon!
Honestly, I'd support Patrick Omameh fielding punts if he fielded all of them cleanly.
Come to think of it, I can't recall Gallon even returning one. I may be wrong but he has either muffed the catch or has only had fair catches.
I agree with TG7782, whoever is back there just needs to catch the ball and hang on to it.
Two returns for a total of negative ten yards.
I thought you were right that he hadn't returned one, but he has credit for a long return of seven yards. I'm not sure where his negative ten yards total comes from. The muff against UMass?
Thank you for looking that up. Yeah either way, I just want someone to hold onto the ball, I don't care if he even moves. With our offense, we have the potential to score from anywhere; but with our defense, we can't afford giving up easy turnovers like that.
His long return of 7 yards was the one he muffed against UConn...the one he ran and dove for bounced forward 7 yards and was recovered by us thankfully.
the muff actually went forward for positive yardage.
Yeah, he hasn't really had a return yet, in fact the last few years have seen very few returns. I wonder if that is partly how we do special teams or that we've had disaster looming at the PR spot since Steve Breaston left.
Ok so he's had two returns, neither of them memorable.
I remember both of them, and they are not fond memories.
I vote Dileo.
It's not like we would burn his redshirt because he is currently being used as the holder on kicks?? Also, supposedly this is his specialty. If he was brought in mainly to do just this, then why not get him started at it? He certainly can't be any worse, right?
However, since my logic makes so much sense, i'm guessing there is a very good reason the coaches don't share my sentiments, and that worries me.
Any word on if he's been at least serviceable HOTTDB during fall or any practices since?
He hasn't really had much of a chance to field punts yet. I think he is getting frustrated letting them go or fair-catching them. I just want someone who is fine taking what they give him.
He's a young kid who only really gets game action on punt returns. That's his one chance to show the coaches what he can do, or not do as is currently the case.
Has Gallon had his eyes checked? Seems like he has a bit of a depth perception issue on some of those balls.
it is punt returner. The sound of all those footsteps and you have to be looking UP. . . ?
Gallon has definetely made some mistakes but I'm just waiting for him to actually get a chance to return one. I don't think he has had a return yet this year.
Hard to field and return a punt when all of them are landing around the 10-15 yard line. If the defense could get a stop and create better field position he may have a better chance to return a punt.
There is no difference fielding punts on your 20 vs your 40 vs their 40. Now if the ball is inside the 10 you don't go get it. This is simply accomplished by putting your heels on the 10 yard line when a punt has you backed up that deep. If It goes over your head don't catch it...
The real solution to this problem is simple. We need no returner. Letting every ball drop and roll would be such an amazing improvement that this is the only option. Just think, if we just never return another punt this year, we can be sure to never fumble another return. We will always get the ball back, and Denard can resume flying past defenses like Dom Deluise through a buffet line.
I'm all for Dileo returning punts but he may get ripped in half.
if he played for the opposing eleven.
I too like Odoms back there ... and I really don't care if he tries to return it, just catch it.
We let balls hit and roll 15 - 20 yards, and if we keep letting them hit the ground, you can be assured sometime during this season that the ball will bounce off of one of our blockers and be recoverd by the punting team. It happens every Saturday somewhere in America.
Go Blue !
Just catch the ball. I am less concerned with the return, and more concerned with keeping the ball. At this point we may be better off not having anyone return and just letting the damned ball bounce.
He can't be worse than what we have and his redshirt is burned so sure, give the kid a chance.
Forget the return man, just go all out punt block everytime with no man back. We would have the same field position we are currently getting without the risk of a turnover while simultaneously giving ourselves a better chance for a huge play at the other end.
If we continue to have issues with catching the ball I'm all for it.
If we rushed 11, we would be pretty open to a fake put. With that said, I am not opposed to covering any wideout/gunners, leaving one linebacker and forgetting about the return man. I meancould it be worse? Remember looking forward to watching punt returns by Woodson and Breston? Now, I just pray for a nice, safe fair catch!
If my memory serves, his only muffs were in the wind-swirling first game and a crazy bounce in the last game. It's not like he's fumbling balls coming right to him. Let's see what he can do with a real return, he has potential to be one of the most exciting players on our team.
It's less that he muffed those two, and more that he muffed that because he made horrible decisions in trying to field them in the first place. I'm alright with giving him one more chance against BG, but he certainly hasn't done anything to inspire confidence thus far.
I'm already sick of watching the punts bounce and then roll 15 yards. If that's going to happen, we might as well put 11 guys on the line of scrimmage and go with an all out punt block.
In fairness not many punts have been returnable. There was a lot of wind at the UConn game and the kicks were all over the place. We have also been somewhat unlucky on the bounces which makes him look worse. I say give him a few more games.
What about Terrance Robinson or Vincent Smith, I think Smith would be great he can break tackles and has the speed to take it to the house, and his hands are serviceable
If someone told you that Vincent Smith has speed, that person is a dirty, dirty liar.
seems to be happening far more often than even fair catches.
to fumble and curse.
go go gadget white punt returner.
Here's an idea . . . Shooting from the hip . . . Coach Rodriguez could ask the centerfielder on the baseball team to catch punts. He doesn't have to return them, just fair catch them. We could then have a soccer player kicking field goals and a baseball player catching punts. That seems pretty awesome for some reason.
- why is Gallon always 15 yards behind where the ball usually lands? Do we have too much faith in the oppositions punter? I like Brain's suggestion of leaving Gallon back there but put Dileo or someone 15 yards in front of him to fair catch all the punts that will inevitably end up there.
on another thread and my thoughts were that Gallon should be given one last game at PR vs BGSU to see what he can do. If he does not improve or fails to securely catch the ball, then I would go the conservative route and put someone back there with sure hands, similar to Greg Mathews last year, who isn't a burner, but won't make errors either. I would rather have a guy fair catch every time than take a gamble on ball that "might" be returnable.
it's getting harder to catch these with the rugby style punting. This is truly one of the most dangerous chores in football. Gallon let this get to his head IMO. He just needs time. He was exceptional in HS and the Army All American game. He is going to be a great slot if he ever gets his chance.
If Hemingway is healthy enough, I'd like him to do it. He did a good job on punt returns at the end of last year.
I would put Martavious Odoms back there because he is the most consistent PR we have had. He might not be as explosive as explosive as Gallon or some of the other front runners for the job, but he fields them without error.
We are last in the country in punt returns. Figures something needs to change. At this point I like Hannibal's suggestion of not putting a guy back for the return at all. Just pick up and go from where the ball lands. Definitely beats 2 returns for -10 yards and a number of near turnovers.
Or, we could try someone else :)
with all these fast slot guys, i cant believe we cant find a punt returner that can:
A) Catch the ball
B) make a good decision on weather to catch the ball, let it go, or fair catch
C) when the ball is caught get a positive gain.
hard to believe
Dry, minimally windy.
Weather not to catch the ball:
Rainy, windy, indecisive.
...is better than what we have now.
That is pretty sad.
Dileo, why not?
what ever happened to the whole idea of players having to compete every week to hold onto their starting spots. gallon has done absolutely nothing right. people can say all they want that he "hasnt gotten anything returnable." to be honest, i could care less if he returns a punt for positive yardage all season (not an exaggeration). I just want him to catch the ball on the fly. that simple. id change the position name to "punt catcher" so gallon knows what priority number one is. maybe he should just call a fair catch right off the bat, so theres no pressure on him to track the gunners, and he can just keep his eye on the ball.
"Competing every week" means competing during the week. If no one can outperform him in practice, he'll continue.
I think RR should just send a guy back there and tell him to fair catch it every time so they don't have to worry about getting yards after they get the ball. We've probably fumbled the ball close to 15 times in the last couple years and we only have the one Odoms TD against Purdue, so I'm actually serious.
Bring back the joy I felt when he committed.
Going with the "best player in practice is who plays during the game" approach makes sense as a general rule, but unfortunately there are players who, for whatever reason, light it up during practice and then crap the bed during games. There are also other players who don't impress during practice but seem to go to another level once the whistle blows. I have no clue whether Gallon or Dileo fit these profiles, but it's hard to imagine somebody doing worse at handling the punts than Gallon has been so far. If there's even the possibility that Dileo might be put into service later in the season, then it would be crazy IMHO to not give him a shot during the BG game. It's what players do during the game that counts the most.
I say we put Denard back there. He's got good hands and electrifying speed.
What's that you say? He's our starting QB.
Then let's go with DiLeo.
I say we put Denard back there. He's got good hands and electrifying speed.
What's that you say? He's our starting QB.
Then let's go with DiLeo.
He's been pretty much invisible since getting on campus, but there was quite a buzz about him when he comitted.
Like everyone else, I just want someone to catch and hold the damn ball. I don't like saying, "Don't fumble, don't fumble,..." on every punt.
There wasn't really much buzz at all. If anything, the buzz was "We stole this guy from Tulane. Whoop-de-doo. We need better recruits!"
That being said...I've always thought punt returning would be his main focus on campus. He could be good at it, but he's mini. If a gunner got a free shot on him, he'd probably splatter.
He was among the most highly recruited players in his class. Look at his Welcome post on this very site for details on his numerous offers. I'm guessing he was also offered by Tulane, though, so you got that one right.
You're right - I didn't see that the above poster was talking about Stokes. I thought he was still talking about Dileo. My bad.
I don't care if they put Will Campbell back there - somebody needs to catch these punts and at least stop them from rolling another 10-15 yards every time.
.....when we start our drive from the three yard line, instead of the 35 (like UMass's returns last week) - that just means more yardage for Denard.