Thanks and a Few ?'s From a Future UM Student

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December 29th, 2009 at 4:29 PM
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CleMaize
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Thanks and a Few ?'s From a Future UM Student

So I am now able to post a forum topic because I have reached my 20 points. How I got those 20 I'm not exactly sure because I have not reached anywhere close to 20 posts. I would just like to thank everyone that has anything to do with this site. When I sent in my application to UM I began to follow the football team but did not want to get to emotionally attached in case I did not get in. During the season I was looking at some sights and message boards and unfortunately did not find this gem of a site until about a week ago. This is far and away the best site I have found and is the most impressive sports blog I have ever seen. I would like to thank all that make this site possible, this is my new place for all UM information. I am normally not a big poster but I needed to make this post because this place is awesome! One thing that I can not stand is people who claim to be "fans" but know nothing about the team besides the star player. Upon my acceptance I have been on a quest to gather my information to be a "real" fan. If anybody has any books or other places to look so I can futher understand the history, tradition, and what it really means to be a Wolverine I would love it if you let me know. I will admit that I have made a few mistakes in my past, I grew up in Ohio and was a half hearted Buckeye fan who more just loved the passion and traditions of college football as opposed to a specific team, so yes I did root for OSU in the '02 Natl Championship game (now I can clearly see that no pass interference should have been called). I no longer have any ties to that other school and can not stand their fans from living around so many and reading there message boards. I have a few pretty basic questions that I know you guys can answer for me.

1. Explain the whole snake oil thing, I know it relates to RR but I dont quite get it.
2. I recently rewatched the UM ND game this year and was wondering about our defense. Do we run a base 3-4 but throw in some 4-3 looks because I saw both but I was a little distracted because my eyes kept getting distracted by Brandon Graham.
3. Is every offense set a 3 WR set because I kept seeing that even in running situations.
4. Are there plans to schedule some big OOC games in the futre (UConn is a step but it's not there yet) I know we play ND every year but is there a chance for some others. Also will I see a night game in AA anytime soon, I know there are no lights and they have to be brought in but is there a chance, and a 3:30 start in Nov. when it's dark at the half doesnt count as a night game IMO.

Thanks for all the answers and reading all my rambling.

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December 29th, 2009 at 4:34 PM | Some Answers (Score:1)
Hemlock Philosopher
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1 - RR was called a snake oil salesman by Joe Tiller after he got Roundtree to decommit from Purdue.

4 - Not likely. ND is our "big" out of conference opponent every season. We can only hope there is a change in philosophy, but it doesn't appear likely.

Good luck at Michigan. I was a great school for me for 10 years.

Brewer. Wolverine.

December 29th, 2009 at 4:37 PM | Thanks for clearing that up. (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Thanks for clearing that up. Don't think my parents will be to happy with me if they're paying out of state tutition for 10 years

December 29th, 2009 at 5:34 PM | Lot's of people go to school (Score:1)
Clarence Beeks
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Lot's of people go to school for ten years...

December 29th, 2009 at 5:38 PM | yeah...they're called (Score:1)
BleedingBlue
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yeah...they're called DOCTORS

did I catch a niner in there? you callin' from a walkie talkie?

'Murica & Footbaw: That's what Michigan Does

December 29th, 2009 at 5:48 PM | Sophomore year was (Score:1)
rdlwolverine
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the three best years of my life.

(Zonker Harris)

December 29th, 2009 at 6:31 PM | BEST MOVIE EVER (Score:1)
maizenbluenation
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+1 to you sir.

December 29th, 2009 at 6:43 PM | Christ. Seven years of (Score:1)
mjkaiser09
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Christ. Seven years of college down the drain. Mine as well join the peace core.

December 29th, 2009 at 4:41 PM | Answers to a couple of your questions (Score:1)
Bacari's World
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Michael Shaw decommitted from PSU to Michigan, Ricky Barnum from Florida to Michigan, and Roy Roundtree from Purdue to Michigan on Rodriguez's first signing day in Ann Arbor. That prompted former Purdue coach Joe Tiller to call Rodriguez "a guy in a wizard hat selling snake oil." He was pissed over losing Roundtree and said what, in hindsight, was a pretty funny line.

As for non-conference games, it really will depend on the new AD in my opinion. We have like a 30-year deal with Notre Dame, which unfortunately gives us little wiggle room to do big-time home and home series because Bill Martin always wanted to have as many home games as possible for money reasons. The home and home with UConn was just to get a BCS opponent to the Big House for the post-renovation opener. My guess is most OOC schedules will look like this: 2 MAC teams, Notre Dame, and an FCS school. In the future I'd love to see some big-time home and homes like Ohio State and Michigan State are doing, but I guess it will depend on if the new AD is willing to give up a home game every once in a while.

The thing with night games is supposedly concern over how dark areas around the stadium would be where there is tons of parking. We have 4 spots on the new press box/luxury suites (1 in each corner) that allows temporary lights to be put in, which is what happened with the Penn State game this past season. Theoretically those 3:30 starts later in the season do end at night, but I guess the concern is having people trying to navigate around the stadium and the areas around the stadium at midnight or something. I personally think it is just an excuse to not have night games. In the future it'll again probably depend on the new AD. I imagine Rodriguez wants night games, but it'll be up to the AD to actually make it happen.

December 29th, 2009 at 4:44 PM | Thanks for the answers. I (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Thanks for the answers. I can imagine that RR wants some night games. I can remember reading some articles where he wanted to get the crowd into the game more and I think a night game would be a great opportunity for that. Guess a lot of things are dependent on the new AD

December 29th, 2009 at 4:38 PM | I was in a similar situation (Score:1)
mattbern
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I was in a similar situation to you, as my following of Michigan started only a few years ago when I was first looking at colleges. I guess unlike you I became emotionally invested in Michigan and would have been devastated if I had not gotten in. Last year, my roommate introduced me to this blog and it is where I get all of my information. I feel like I have really picked up on all of the tradition and history of the program from this blog, as well as just from being in Ann Arbor, surrounded by a lot of life long M fans.

You play to win the game

December 29th, 2009 at 4:47 PM | Oh I would have been (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Oh I would have been devasted, this was definately the place I wanted to go I just didn't want to become to attached in case I was rejected. Now that I'm in I am all blue!

December 29th, 2009 at 5:07 PM | Devastated would be an (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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Devastated would be an understatement for me, my parents went there and I have been an M fan for my whole life. Too bad I have to wait a whole year to see if I get in. Congrats, on you getting in though, that is quite an accomplishment and I'm sure you and your parents are very proud. Work hard, get a degree, and you will be successful. On somewhat of a selfish note, do you think a 31 ACT and 3.5 would be good enough to get in? :P

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 5:13 PM | I hope you get in. I would (Score:1)
CleMaize
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I hope you get in. I would hate to see someone who loves UM as much as you be denied. I think you would have a great shot with those stats. Your ACT is in the higher part of the middle 50% but your GPA is prolly a little low. Being a legacy should help. Just take all the hard classes your senior year and challenge yourself. Also if your instate I think it's a little easier and apply early decision so you find out by Christmas. Anymore questions feel free and good luck.

December 29th, 2009 at 5:27 PM | Thank you very much: (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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The GPA is what worries me the most, although I have essentially taken the hardest classes that our school offers and plan on taking three A.P. classes next year (I would have taken three by then). I have okay extracurriculars, a few sports, NHS, Student Council etc. I do plan on taking the ACT a few more times though, 31 was on the first try. And I may have some national merit coming in.

I really hope I get in too, Michigan is really my only in-state option. And I don't know if I can live with being a badger :)

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 5:32 PM | 31 ACT without finishing your (Score:1)
CleMaize
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31 ACT without finishing your Junior year is great. My best score came during the June ACT right after I finished Junior Year. I wouldn't be suprised to see your score go up to around a 33. I just had the basic extracurriculars to. Good to see you are taking the hardest classes. I think you got a great shot, I wouldn't worry to much

December 29th, 2009 at 5:41 PM | Thanks, I am pretty reassured (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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Thanks, I am pretty reassured now. Still, nothing is more reassuring than getting the acceptance letter.

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 7:53 PM | I got in, out of state, with (Score:1)
BlueintheLou
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I got in, out of state, with a 25 ACT. If someone can tell me how that happened, I will be in debt to you. Not that I was complaining, turned it into 4 awesome years in AA.

"Those who stay will be champions."
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
December 29th, 2009 at 7:55 PM | Do you happen to be of a race (Score:1)
goblueritzy92
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Do you happen to be of a race other than white?

December 29th, 2009 at 7:58 PM | Nope. Caucasian. From the (Score:1)
BlueintheLou
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Nope. Caucasian. From the suburbs of Chicago. Albeit, I did NOT have a standard rich, suburban lifestyle.

Moral of the story. If you feel like there's a chance. Go after it. Strange things happen.

"Those who stay will be champions."
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
December 29th, 2009 at 9:15 PM | Good luck. I think you will (Score:1)
mattbern
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Good luck. I think you will be fine, but I know the feeling of having to sweat it out. I hope it works out for you.

You play to win the game

December 29th, 2009 at 5:32 PM | 31 ACT without finishing your (Score:1)
CleMaize
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31 ACT without finishing your Junior year is great. My best score came during the June ACT right after I finished Junior Year. I wouldn't be suprised to see your score go up to around a 33. I just had the basic extracurriculars to. Good to see you are taking the hardest classes. I think you got a great shot, I wouldn't worry to much

December 29th, 2009 at 9:17 PM | If you make it to National (Score:1)
jrt336
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If you make it to National Merit, check out Texas A&M. Good school and they give you 110k.

December 30th, 2009 at 2:46 PM | Wow, 110k would probably make (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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Wow, 110k would probably make me want to go there, just saying.

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 10:45 PM | i would say (Score:1)
gujd
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being in-state is the biggest thing you have going for you. At least when I was applying (2003) it was much easier to get in as an instater (I think they have like 75/25 instate/outstate ratio if i remember correctly). I think I remember it being something like 50% of in state applicants were accepted.

Proud member of the Rebellion

December 29th, 2009 at 5:23 PM | You should be okay. When I (Score:1)
Spread_Offense
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You should be okay. When I applied I had a 32 ACT and around a 3.5 unweighted GPA. With that I not only got accepted but got a scholarship as well. As long as you took some AP classes and put some time into your application you should be fine. Also protip: apply for early admission. It's not fun sitting around at the end of your senior year worrying if you will be accepted or not.

December 29th, 2009 at 5:28 PM | Thanks. I plan on sending my (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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Thanks. I plan on sending my app as soon as possible.

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 5:51 PM | Do not let it get you down (Score:1)
GustaveFerbert
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I was from a small Ohio town and did not get in to UM initially. They gave me advice to sit out a semester and I likely could have started in January...I was too impatient at 18 and went to UW for a year. And though UW was a great, I transferred to UM for the next three... So the moral of the story is, if you do not get in initially, do not give up if you really want it. There is no immediate hurry........lots of kids leave or flunk out after a semester and there will be room....

Go Blue!

- Dutch

December 29th, 2009 at 6:11 PM | Thanks, I am pretty sure that (Score:1)
the_white_tiger
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Thanks, I am pretty sure that situation would probably be my best option if I don't get in initially. UW is a school I'm definitely looking at, my dad went to grad school there.

Maize n Brew

December 29th, 2009 at 6:33 PM | The fact you're a legacy I'm (Score:1)
Stewart52
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The fact you're a legacy I'm pretty sure helps you a lot if you're on the fence. I know a guy who had like a 3.2 GPA and 28 ACT but still got into the Engineering School and I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with the donations his dad makes every year. Aside from that I think you're still fine. I had a 31 ACT when I got into Michigan, but keep taking it-I ended up with my highest score being a 33.

December 29th, 2009 at 7:06 PM | What do you guys think about (Score:1)
goblueritzy92
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What do you guys think about a 3.7 GPA, 27 ACT(have to get this up), many AP and Honors classes, Dad is an alum, and multiple extra curriculars?

December 29th, 2009 at 10:25 PM | Sorry to be that guy (Score:1)
MGoViso
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But sometimes you never know.
I had a 35 ACT, 3.79 GPA, 5 on the Calc BC test, 4s on AP US History and US Government, 3 relatives who are alumni, and I didn't get in.
I live 15 minutes from Ann Arbor and was pretty crushed.

December 29th, 2009 at 10:50 PM | Wow, I'm shcoked by this. I (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Wow, I'm shcoked by this. I would have bet my life you would of gotten in

December 30th, 2009 at 12:46 AM | How in gods name did you not (Score:1)
goblueritzy92
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How in gods name did you not get in with a 35. With that ACT you should be applying to the Ivy League

December 29th, 2009 at 10:51 PM | Get the ACT up to at least a (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Get the ACT up to at least a 29 and you got a great shot

December 30th, 2009 at 2:09 AM | I say this as often as I can (Score:1)
BlueintheLou
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I say this as often as I can to high school students. The things that go into college admissions are so broad and inclusive, that within reason, anything can happen.

Is there a reason I got in with a 3.8 and a 25 out of state, and posters with far superior scores on this board didn't get in? I would assume so. Did I deserve the spot over one of them? Probably not, especially the poster who got a 35. Did they make a mistake in admitting me? No. I graduated from the College of Engineering with honors.

Major universities are trying to diversify their student body in any way possible. While being a white male I didn't offer diversity in the most obvious ways, but perhaps I filled something they felt they were missing. That's why collegiate admissions is so tough to gauge. So, no matter what happens, if it seems possible, go after it. Anything can happen when those decisions are made. To this day, I have zero idea how I was admitted. It baffles me, but I took the opportunity. I have no idea where I would be without it.

"Those who stay will be champions."
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
December 29th, 2009 at 7:37 PM | I think that roommate [ME!] (Score:1)
MGoAndy
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I think that roommate [ME!] deserves a posbang for spreading the MGoGospel.

December 29th, 2009 at 4:42 PM | You didn't ask, but... (Score:1)
KBLOW
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Follow Dhani Jones' example and join the Residential College.

And the night game thing will not happen in the near future (next 3-4 years) if ever. Way too many issues between the city, the University and the residents of the neighborhoods near the stadium who supply much of the parking for games on their lawns.

There are no corners in space.

December 29th, 2009 at 4:47 PM | Alright I'll look into it. (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Alright I'll look into it. Thanks

December 29th, 2009 at 6:33 PM | I had a couple of friends who (Score:1)
chunkums
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I had a couple of friends who lived in East Quad and really didn't like it that much. Markley may have been far but it was a damn good time.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

December 29th, 2009 at 5:10 PM | Don't join the residential (Score:1)
tedbundy98
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Don't join the residential college unless you want to live in east quad, surrounded by freaks.

December 29th, 2009 at 5:21 PM | ? (Score:1)
blueheron
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I think that's an outdated stereotype. Seriously.

Yes, you will probably find more offbeat people in that dorm, but I would (in retrospect) rank it pretty high in the list. Its location is good and, unless things have changed, there are more dining options there.

"..."

December 29th, 2009 at 5:26 PM | Yep - I'll take living in (Score:1)
jmblue
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Yep - I'll take living in East Quad with a slightly higher freak population over living in the Hill/North Campus and having a crappy commute to class.

December 29th, 2009 at 5:30 PM | True about East Quad, great (Score:1)
tedbundy98
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True about East Quad, great location and not everybody living there is in the RC. But, in my experience it is safe to stereotype the kids in the RC as weirdo's. I'm sure not all of them are odd, but i'm also sure that there are a couple of good female asian drivers.

December 29th, 2009 at 6:02 PM | As an '09 alum, I can tell (Score:1)
BlueVoix
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As an '09 alum, I can tell you that it is definitely not outdated. People that live in East Quad for more than a year are of another breed.

And as for dining options, yes, East Quad is better than, say West or South Quad, but that is like having sex with your best looking cousin. It is still awful.

December 29th, 2009 at 6:42 PM | It is great that CleMaize has this blog (Score:1)
Blue Durham
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to learn so much from other people's experiences.

December 29th, 2009 at 6:49 PM | I do it for the kids. I just (Score:1)
BlueVoix
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I do it for the kids.

I just hope he's not jerking off to this right now.

December 29th, 2009 at 6:53 PM | Awesome response. (Score:1)
Blue Durham
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Awesome response.

December 29th, 2009 at 10:53 PM | Haha what do you think I am, (Score:1)
CleMaize
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Haha what do you think I am, an East Quad kid. Just kidding but that doesn't sound like my place.

December 29th, 2009 at 10:54 PM | as a current student ... (Score:1)
hailtothevictors08
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East quad is def still considered somewhat out there ... also i think it has the worst cafeteria bar none ... however most non-full ride students still in dorms past sophomore yr tend to be a little out there

Just Win Baby

December 29th, 2009 at 6:36 PM | Dining options? (Score:1)
Stewart52
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Uh, if by more dining options you mean vegan food, than yea. I loved Markley's food. You could fucking make your own pizza. And as for the commute, that's why they made the commuter bus route

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