Yeah I'm not sure what that comment was about. He may have expressed interest previously but I don't see why OSU offering him would somehow mean we're out of the running.
Terry Richardson Offered by Ohio State Today.
"Is this the dagger in the coffin?"
I dont get the analogy......isn't it nail in the coffin? I dont see how a dagger could secure a coffin.
Dagger in the coffin, as in what killed the person(or school). I'm sorry if it was confusing to you.
I think the analogy was clear. Why it was used, not so much.
I think you just messed up the metaphor.
But there's this:
Your signature is redundant.
Your signature isn't accurate anymore. Didn't you get out of Bolivian incarceration 2+ months ago?
You are technically correct. I still feel like I'm in Bolivia because the board has not returned to pre=maleware status.
I'm hoping maleware status was a typo for malware and not Male Wear. Not quite sure what I'd think of the site if it went to a Male Wear Status. To be honest, I'm not even sure what that might mean, I just have a feeling I don't want to be a part of it...
People are often buried with the instrument used to kill them. It's kind of a nice touch. Tradition and all that.
I think its Nail in the coffin or .. Dagger in the heart
Well you know what they say. People in glass houses sink ships, and a penny saved is worth two in the bush.
I guess I can't keep my metaphors straight.
At least the OP has all of his ducks on the pond!
he doesn't have an ace up his hole like my brother-in-law....That has to hurt. I prefer to keep mine up my sleeve, even if there is a greater chance of getting caught.
You my friend just won the internet today.
I think we've got a heck of a recruiting staff now, and if we can reel off a really good season this fall... no telling what could come.
Also, I still hold out hope that someday soon OSU will still get hit with the HAMMER for their fairly blatant player luxuries (Anyone want to borrow a dealer car?). That would scare a lot of recruits off.
Blaze.....normally i agree with you (especially when it comes to beer) but i'm afraid you're off base on the OSU cheating allegation. Dealers EVERYWHERE write loans to kids who they think will be cashing in on a big paycheck soon. They do it at the maximum interest rate allowable by law (rumor has it that Lebron had a 28% rate on his infamous Hummer purchase) so they can basically charge double what the car is worth by the time the loan matures or is paid off.
It's not unlike places that give loans against future lottery winnings or a deferred inheritance monies. Football and basketball players have driven sweet rides for years under this deal. When i was in school back in the late 70's several of our players had new cars that they could never afford as a student but as a future pro would have no problem paying for.
Tatoogate notwithstanding.....I don't think the end of OSU's run of football dominance is going to come via the NCAA rules committee. We're going to have to do it ourselves.
When I was visiting a friend in Columbus back in 2001 the entire B-ball team had matching explorers. I doubt all of them were destined to cash big paychecks. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying some individuals might over look some missed payments as long as the kid is playing well. Sometimes it takes a rollover accident to expose these types of things. (thanks Tractor Traylor.)
ND offered he and Ross on friday when they visited. PSU offered yesterday, OSU today, can't be late to the party.
Way to hang in there ....
Tressel is a L7 wienie.
but always a +1 comment with me.
I see you're still upvoting your own posts. You know they don't count anymore, right?
I didn't hink voting up on yourself ever counted. It's just a force of habbit.
I think the site stopped counting self-up-votes during the 2009 season. Not that it really matters, of course.
Yeah, that's what I thought. They've never counted when I do them, but it's just fun to click the green arrow.
It works on the same principle as computer Solitare. Getting to click on and reveal a newly exposed card from the stacks is always a good feeling.
THANK YOU! Freaking Vista does it for you! That was the best part of the damn game!
Yeah yeah, Oscar Meyer even.
A bit early in the recruiting cycle for the "dagger in the coffin" routine. Also, WTF does that mean, anyway...
I'll say it again:
Richardson is the best midget corner to come out of Cass Tech (in recent years, anyway). He's better than Cissoko, better than Mathis, better than Hollowell.
I hope Michigan can get him.
Is his offer list better already as well? Certainly for Hollowell but what about Cissoko and Mathis?
It's already better than Mathis' offer list.
Cissoko's offer list is a little murkier, because he committed so early in the process. Rivals has him with offers from LSU, Tennessee, Illinois, Georgia, and Penn State. So he might have been able to earn offers from more top schools, but who knows?
thanks, as usual
My God not every recruit we go after has OSU as their dream school. I can understand being pessimistic about recruits that are from Ohio, but if we're going to assume we're doomed when Cass Tech kids get an OSU offer then we'd might as well join the MAC.
Well, we beat out Ohio State for exactly zero recruits in this past recruiting class and only three in 2010, IIRC. It's a somewhat daunting situation.
For comparison's sake, a quick scan through the past two Ohio State recruiting classes shows that OSU grabbed about 16 kids who had Michigan offers.
It's not the "dagger in the coffin" but recent history suggests it might be a problem.
"It's not the "dagger in the coffin" but recent history suggests it might be a problem"
Exactly my point, this was more of a question to the recruiting members.
Not the general "lynch mob mentality" that seems to think their group opinion should be shoved down everyones throat.
The "lynch mob mentality" that you seem to be perceiving is because you made a random quip about our chances of landing Richardson that was completely unfounded and that you did not back up in any way despite requests to do so.
Had you clarified what the hell you meant then you might not have had this problem. If your point was that OSU offers to kids we've also offered don't work out well for us then fine.
In this case, hard to tell if it will have an effect. It's certainly a big offer and Richardson is a big prospect but given the emphasis Hoke is placing on in-state recruiting and the pipeline that exists with Cass, we're nowhere close to "dagger in the coffin" territory.
"what are your thoughts? Is this the dagger in the coffin?"
This proves my point about the "lynch mob mentality" even more. It was a question posed, not even me saying that was a foregon conclusion. People please read carefully.(laughing out loud)
This isn't a matter of groupthink. You asked a dumb question, people called you on it, and you're trying to pass the buck. That's what it comes down to.
In any case to answer the question, the reaction you've gotten is because it's not even close. Richardson has probably the biggest national profile of any of the in-state kids and should also be a challenge to land (Cass Tech aside). That said, Michigan is in a good position and there's never been anything that I've read or found suggesting he was interested in OSU (unlike Ross who was coveting an OSU offer).
It's too early to tell one way or the other but this shouldn't have any bigger impact on our chances then his Bama offer, or his USC offer or the ND offer, etc.
instead we have a little known coach with a lifetime losing record. Good thing they forked out major $$$ for Mattison.
How many of those recruits were from Michigan?
None. But OSU doesn't have to reach into Michigan very often. They got 53% of their kids over the past two years from their home state.
By comparison, Michigan only got 21% of their 2010-11 commits from the Mitten.
I don't recall any of those kids being from Cass Tech (Gholston was 2004). Like I said, if they're from Ohio or even a guy like Ross, I'd be more worried. But if we're going to right off kids from Cass Tech then we don't have much of a shot at anyone.
I'm not writing anyone off. What I'm saying is that Michigan has lost the vast majority of its battles for kids who also had OSU offers over the past couple years.
Right, but they were all from Ohio. Michigan hasn't lost any in-state kids (that they actually went after, I don't remember us really recruiting James Jackson or whatever his name was) to OSU, so the Richardson thing is completely different.
I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's a whole different animal, in my opinion.
We did go after James Jackson, but I don't think he was necessarily a huge priority.
But not all those guys were from Ohio - Joel Hale, Corey Brown, Roderick Smith, Chad Hagan.
BTW, Johnathan Hankins was from Michigan, although I guess I kind of hesitate to include him here because of the weird circumstances surrounding his recruitment.
None of that changes your point, but it's data nonetheless.
when we are a better school academically, a better school culturally and a better football school historically ... we might as well give up and not play football.
Don't underestimate the school, the program or the staff.
Both Terry Richardson and James Ross were at Ohio State today, so it's not surprising. Terry is going to give everyone a look, including Ohio State. When he says he's open, he's not lying. Michigan has a lot of work to do if they want Richardson.
What about James Ross? Is he thinking OSU too? Or do we have a better shot with him.
OSU is supposed to have a small class this year but it seems like they've offered every guy we're going after.
We can't take all the players we offer and neither can OSU. Maybe Bama does but that is another story.
I really hope we can get him I don't want anyone stealing away kids from our backyard.
shocked to see a Cass Tech kid go to OSU.
Can you imagine a Pioneer High kid going to Ohio State? That would break my heart--the school's across the corner from the Big House!
Hi. My name is Vernon Gholston.
I turn to crap once I cycle off all my 'roids.
In Mattison We Trust!
I will be interested to see how some of these verbal offers with various recruits play out with the change in the actual written offers not being able to be sent out until Sept. 1rst this year.
I think some players(not necissarily talking about Terry) will be a little confused about what is going on with certain schools when September rolls around. I think the change with the official written offer date is having the exact opposite effect than it was intended by the NCAA. Shocker.
I realize that these offers are definitely committable if a school would like them to be, but I am curious on what the data will end up being with kids getting the run around when trying to commit to one of these verbal offers. I, personally, feel that a lot of these verbal offers to various recruits are a school trying to not be left behind if they end up actually really wanting a certain kid when the official offers are allowed to be sent out in September.
They currently have thirteen verbals with 3 guys that are NR, 7 three stars, and 3 four stars per Scout. Not the kind of recruiting you normally see from the Longhorns. It'll be interesting to see how many actually get written offers.
Is a dagger in a coffin like beating a dead horse?
on the head in the sand
in the mouth
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Tell me this.
If a tree falls in the forrest, is a penny still earned?
Obvs it wont be Richardson but... Its time for a commit already. Weve given out close to 100 offers and it would be nice to get things rolling a little bit. I know it is incredibly early but I just want one! Even TomVh saying there is a silent commit or Sam Webb having a gut feeling about a guy! PLEASE!!!
Wormley, RJS, Goddin, someone, anyone, just make it happen already!
What coffin? I see no perceivable coffin related to Cass Tech (generally), Richardson (specifically), or recruiting (generally). The only discussion area might be, does an OSU offer decrease the likelihood of a Michigan commitment from Richardson? The only person who can answer that is Richardson. It sounds like Mattison is intensifying defensive recruiting capabilities, so I think that Michigan should be sitting well in the minds of recruits.