Terry Richardson has just been offered by USC. He is compiling a really stellar offer sheet and I was wondering if he is better than BooBoo at this point. With both of them being smaller it seems like an appropriate comparison.
Terry Richardson Hype
I've seen it mentioned that TR has more speed. I wish USC, Alabama, and Tenn would gtf out of Michigan.
What is the connection there lately (Arnett going there and a few other guys showing interest)? They haven't been good in a little while, have had coaching turmoil, and I never really remember them recruiting in the state before.
Is there a story there I'm missing? Just an odd coincidence?
I'm assuming he's referring to Danny O'Brien as well
Thy are O'Brian favorite right now. Tennessee is doing pretty well making their presance known right now
It seems an odd school to suddenly develop a strong recruiting presence in Michigan out of the blue (without being terribly successful on the field lately to boost their reputation across the country). Curious why/how they are targetting kids in Michigan and what accounts for their recent success in getting their attention.
To me it is just as odd/unexpected as if a bunch of kids from Detroit just decided "Hey, I'm going to play at Clemson."
I don't think Tennessee is fertile grounds for recruiting, but I could be wrong. They might be like a Nebraska program that has to go north and south of the state to recruit.
I wouldn't say that they have no talent instate. I have no idea, but I'm willing to guess cities like Memphis and Nashville have some talent.
To compare (according to rivals)"
Tennessee had 2 four stars, while Michigan had 6 four stars.
Their program was in a downward spiral when Alabama, LSU and Auburn began to take off. I wonder with way those programs have been recruiting lately down there if Tennessee might be getting squezed out a little bit on the recruiting trail down south, forcing them to come up here more. Just speculation on my part, though.
Your theory makes lots of sense. I think Dooley is doing a good jog of recruiting at Ten. He had to fix a mess that was left by Kiffin. It seems like many of the players that were recruited by Kiffin have either left or were kicked off for legitimate reasons.
It remains to be seen how Nebraska will play a part in the area in the future as well. No knock on RR, but I'm glad we've got guys like Hoke and Mattison that know how to recruit the region well.
The coach connection helps explain it. I expect teams to recruit the blue-chip guys and I would expect programs with recent national titles (LSU, Bama, SC) to be able to tempt guys. I don't really see Dooley being able to make the same sales pitch about his program right now or his past success. To me it would be like if the top players in Tennessee or Georgia all started looking at programs like Colorado or Washington (decent name/reputation, but not much recent success and no big name coach in a totally different part of the country). Having a guy with strong local connections on their staff explains the weirdness of it.
You say you don't think that Dooley could recruit nationally because of lack of recent success and his history? This sounds a lot like what UM is up against with a few bad years and a coach with an iffy W/L margin. Hopefully kids nationally don't stop looking at us for the reasons you say.
If Dooley pulls O' Brien out from out from under Hoke and Mattison with their prior DL coaching experience; coupled with him being in our own backyard I’ll strongly question their recruiting prowess everyone's been touting.
Sounds like an awful lot of judgement based on the decision of one 17 year old kid.
HS kids watch ESPN and see the talking heads talking about how great the SEC is and Tennessee gives them a chance to play in the conference and isn't that far away. They have a nice stadium, rabid fanbase, and the Kiffikin girls using whatever method of persuasion they use to get these kids to commit.
They are O'Brians favorite right now. Tennessee is doing pretty well making their presance known right now
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I think the love-affair of the SEC by ESPN and others has gotten into the heads of the mid-western recruits. The Big Ten has been beaten down by pundits about not being able to compete with the SEC teams. I think the Vols feel like with all the controversy that has surrounded Michigan football that maybe they can sneak a few big time recruits out of the state. They may be using the likes of Mark Ingram as to what they may be able to accomplish. Just a thought.
Impressive list he is compiling.
Lane Kiffin is an assclown. That is all.
I wanted to know what an assclown was, so I googled it
I just hope Richardson doesn't get pigeonholed into the Booboo comparisons. Just because he's an undersized corner from Cass Tech, doesn't mean they're the same, or should be compared.
Richardson deserves to be evaluated based on his own achievements.
Seems like a pretty natural comparison to me, at least the on-field comparison - same school, similar hype, similar size and speed. Every player gets compared to other players that came before him.
If we're not going to compare players who play the same position at the same schoo with similar size, then I don't know why we compare people at all.
If we are going to compare them, then do you know why we do?
That's weird considering USC probably won't be able to take even 5 kids in their next class.
Why do I feel that they will somehow weasel their way around these sanctions? They will somehow end up Sabaning away schollies from less-talented seniors and end up with a 75-man roster composed exclusively of 4 and 5-star talent.
I would be very surprised if Kiffin will get away with the crap the SEC pulls regarding over signing. We have a loud and vocal media presence in LA who will attack over signing if it evolves. The only ones that love them some Kiffin in LA are USC alums.
If over signing does happen at USC the LA media has a national presence and this topic will catch fire.
They'll find a way to fu the system and pull 20+...
They are appealing the loss of scholarships and are back signing kids that enrolled early. I have no idea what happens to them if their appeal is not successful.
I think Richardson's better than Cissoko, yeah.
The services don't agree with you thus far. Why do you think that is?
Because its February and they havent even ranked recruits yet, Also BooBoo was what MVP at the Army Combine
The services haven't really finalized anyone's ranks yet.
Rival's 250 watch list gives us an idea who they think will be among the best, but the final 250 will replace several of the current players with players that rise this season.
Cissoko had the advantage of winning awards at the Army All-American junior combine, so he was on the radar early. At this stage he was on the watch list just like Richardson.
This is just my opinion, but even though they are the same height Boo-boo just looked more built.
Cissoko was definitely more developed in the upper body. I'm not someone who gets caught up in a cornerback's upper body thickness.
Your post seems to make the assumption that the services were correct about Cissoko's ranking.
(Hint: They weren't.)
alot of big time schools are coming after him.Are we a lock to land Terry and Royce?
I though Cissoko was pretty good, on the field. He got ripped on a lot but he was young.
I agree somewhat...he got picked on alot playing opposite of Warren. Who knows if he was playing at his potential with all of the off-field issues.
It was easy to blame it on him, but the defensive scheme put him on an island way to much. It was to much to expect from such a young player to match up in single coverage as often as he had too.
I'm nitpicking, but I just didn't like how he acted on the field sometimes. I remember him standing over an ND player and pushing him down after he tackled him. I felt like he celebrated every little tackle he made even if it was after a big gain.
Looks like were gonna find out if Mattinson is as good a recruiter as they say he is.
I don't know how recruiting really works, but at this point Fred Jackson is his primary recruiter. I think I read on rivals somewhere that Jackson is going to be in charge of Flint, Saginaw and Detroit.
I suppose that's true, but for such a highly rated prospect, I've got to think that both Mattinson and Hoke will have some hand in his recruitment. Didn't Mattinson personally go to give him his offer too?
Same position, check. Same size, check. Same age... eh, not exactly? Wasn't it reported after Boo Boo was given the boot and during his legal trouble that he was actually two years older than the age he was listed as? If that was the case, it's hard to compare Richardson and Cissoko at the same stage because Cissoko was essentially an overager playing against high school kids.
He would have been ineligible to play in HS unless they forged his birth certificate.
If Super Bowl commercials can teach us anything, it is that Detroit is not a third world country.
It refers to a DetNews article after Boo Boo had legal trouble that doesn't exist any more, but comment #7 references the age thing.
UPDATE: Here you go... his Department of Corrections info, which shows his birthdate as 6/6/88. That means he would have been 20 years old when he entered Michigan in fall '08.
MGoBlue.com's profile of Boo Boo has his birth date as 6/6/90 (under Personal at the bottom).
Thus, he was lying about his age and all those combines, etc... he did so well at, well, he did as an overager.
It's impossible to forge birth certificates.
Freddy Adu and Danny Almonte
Hey freddy adu didn't forge his birth certificate. Ghana is a developing country, they keep track of that.
I don't know if it is true, but I seem to remember reading this somewhere also.
someone negged the OP. this was an informative and benign post. i don't understand what he could be negged for.
I don't really understand it either. Some people just have a lot of ANGAR.
Probably saw too much penis for their liking.
Now that is funny... Richardson looks really good, wish those cass tech boys were a little bigger though!!!
scared about his reaction via Twitter to the offer:
People who still neg must have a closed head injury. They're useless people!
Also, that doesn't seem too good for UofM at the moment but with TRich being in close proximity to campus he'll get plenty of attention that USC can't match.
Geez, let's not freak out quite yet. Only about a whole damn year till the next signing day. It's really not surprising that he may not have been as excited at an offer that he knew was coming for a long time. It's pretty awesome to get that attention from a big school across the country. I'll say it again, this will be test for Mattinson to see if he deserves all the hype he's gotten.
I totally agree that it's a long process and things change quickly in recruiting. It will be fun to watch this new staff recruit with the message that the old Michigan is back and we'll be an NFL factory again.
The "old Michigan" is back? When did that happen?
Who cares about being an NFL factory? How about we get excited about winning the Big Ten first.
High rated recruits care about a schools ability to get them to the league. High rated recruits help teams get to the top and compile wins.
Old Michigan is in reference to going back to an NFL style defense and pro style offense, which isn't the only way to get to the league but from what NFL scouts say it's easier to evaluate teams that have some pro sets as opposed to strictly spread. There are exceptions, however.
Why would somebody draft Sam Bradford playing in such a gimmick offense. Even the ultimate spread QB, Timmy, got drafted in the first round. Seeing as how a vast majority of college teams run the spread I disagree with you. If pro scouts are that bad that they can't evaluate a player because he plays in a spread they need to be fired.
You could go on to mention Alex Smith (#1 overall pick) or Pat White (2nd round, went higher in the draft than Chad Henne). Vince Young, Michael Vick, Drew Brees, etc. Percy Harvin and Michael Crabtree got drafted pretty high as well.
The NFL doesn't give a shit what kind of offense kids play in when they are in college. If anything they appear to be easily bamboozled by less talented guys putting up huge numbers in "spread" type offenses and they have been for years (SEE Andre Ware and David Klingler).
texas tech QBs disagree with your last statemennt.
You're right, guys that RR recruited like Lewan, Robinson, Roundtree, Roh, Omameh, Black can't play in the NFL. Not to mention guys that haven't seen much of the field yet/are young like M. Robinson, Ash, Washington, Stokes, Furman, Avery, C. Johnson, etc. I guess guys like Jordy Nelson, Harvin, Tebow, V. Young, White, McCoy, Cam Newton, etc. should just pack it up after college then as well?
In other threads you rip on guys like Section 1 and Dudeness for bring up RR all the time but you seem to have a problem letting him go as well. Whether you're Calvin Johnson or Danny Woodhead, if you can play football, you can play football.
Well if you'd like to compile a list of read option players then I would be all ears. Otherwise STFU and stop posting. Pat White had an awesome pro career and Steve Slaton was a one hit wonder. Rodriguez was a damn failure and all of the other schools that ran a pro/spread offense are in a different category. Passing spreads are different from read option spreads. I guess that is too much to ask that you would know that, though.
The neg's might not count, but errrybody can see them attached to the post.
Good to know.
Royce Jenkins-Stone said that he doesn't expect to attend the same school as Richardson. I get the feeling that Richardson has his eyes on getting out of the state. He's got offers from some big-time schools, and I think he'll end up elsewhere.
RJS, on the other hand, could very well end up in Ann Arbor.
Nothing about my post required a smartass response.
I don't recall Boo Boo making very many tackle's just alot of him being burnt. (See ND game)