What's the biggest deal anyone has gotten in the supplimental draft?
What are (were) the rules with it anyway?
What's the biggest deal anyone has gotten in the supplimental draft?
What are (were) the rules with it anyway?
Wow. Regret that now.
At least I didn't start it as a thread...
Edit: it counts against whatever round they pick him as for the next season, so he could still get first round money if a team was willing to pay it. Same order as regular draft.
Teams have a chance to draft players who declare late, but for example, if they spend a 2nd round draft pick on Pryor in summer 2011, they would not get a 2nd round pick in the regular 2012 NFL Draft. So you're essentially getting your 2nd round pick a season early.
Always count on a Magnus answer for NFL draft/ recruiting/ position changes.
It's just the Pro version of a grey shirt except, the money isn't given in a handshake.
I'm so confused, why would he do that?
He's not well liked anymore down here in Cbus. Imagine Lebron if he had to play an extra year in Cleveland after 'The Decision'. I don't think there's that level of animosity towards him, but it's getting there.
....well, his word is about as good as Tressel's.
What about the promise he made?
Seems like Tressel forfeited his right to expect others to follow through on their coerced promises.
This is where someone posts a joke about "everyone lies... etc" but it's been done a few times before so we're getting sick of it so please don't. thx
Oh, alright . . . spoilsport.
Not what they used to be.
Why wouldn't he? Because its the supplemental draft during a lockout. Pryor has painted himself into a lose/lose situation.
You don't think there will eventually be a season?
I didn't really understand why he came back in the first place. I don't think he's going to be an NFL quarterback. He's suspended for five games which will probably ruin any season goals he may have. Maybe his injury led him back?
If I were him, I'd figure out what position he could be succesful at in the NFL, and now that he's getting health, train for that position and hope a team takes a flyer on him in the supplemental draft.
My understanding is there will in fact be a regular draft, just no supplemental, and no signing
Got it, I just figured since he's a physical specimen he would want to do the combine thing to raise his stock. We have all seen how impressive workout numbers cause scouts to overvalue players. He runs like a 4.4 and he's 6'6.
Damn, OSU is a mess.
See, God answers prayers.
I'm hoping for a long slow agonizing bleed. All while we are looking better and better to top recruits as the alternative to OSU.
Ditto the long and agonizing bleed. I'll make the popcorn and we can all watch together.
The NCAA will be even more likely to drill OSU.
If Pryor was to enter the Supplemental Draft, then the NCAA would no longer be able to compel him to speak with them. If he is no longer part of the university, then the NCAA can't force him to talk, and he can simply decline their requests.
Similiar to the Reggie Bush situation, where he simply declined to talk with them. Once a player/coach leaves the school, the NCAA loses all control over them and they lack the subpoena power to force them to talk.
Link is dead.
Who will save Zelda?
Al Davis fainting with excitement.
died 5 years ago.
...he's farting with excitement.
"No, Mr. Davis, you cannot bid your next three first-round picks on Pryor...
...No, you do not get store credit for Jamarcus Russell...
...Or Darius Hayward-Bey..."
Leave Al out of this.
I think he'll choose gold in his pockets over another pair of gold pants.
As disappointing as the last three years were, I'm really glad he went to OSU. I'll take Denard —and even Tate Forcier—over Pryor every time.
I understand why everyone would rather have denard but for an 18 year old factors like role models around him and culture of the organization he is in can greatly influence who he becomes as he matures. I think that with better role models (RR and the other coaches) along with a better support system of teammates here at U of M, and a culture of doing things the right way, which is evident that doing things the right was was not the culture at OSU, along with the correct coaching for his playing style (RR) he probably would have become a much better player and person if he would have chosen U of M and we would be talking about how awesome he is and how we can't wait for his senior year, regardless if RR would still be here if he could have gotten pryor.
Before he graduated high school.
Pryor has been a problem since day one. Physical freak, but not a good person. Denard, on the other hand, is a physical freak himself with an infectious smile, a wonderful personality, and seems like a great person. I'll take my chances with a Denard over a Pryor every time. And I am not buying that the environment makes all the difference--or how do you explain Larry Harrison, Cissoko, and others who have gotten into trouble at UM?
Nothing would please me more than to see Pryor and OSU go down in flames. Got gasoline?
From the lack of reporting elsewhere, I'm guessing this is good old fashioned journalistic conjecture. No story? Make one up!
Sell cars? Get tattoes? Seriously, he's going to leave Columbus....aaaaaand? Play football? Where?
I didn't realize that there was a huge market for QBs in the NFL who couldn't throw. Pryor's a great athlete, a pretty good college QB...and he'd be a crap NFL QB. Troy Smith isn't exactly tearing it up in Baltimore and he was a much better passer.
That said, it would only rank about a "5" on the "Stupid sh*t Terrelle Pryor Did Today" list.
Troy Smith is in San Francisco not Baltimore, with Jim Harbaugh of all people. May they all die in a fire.
Also, he needs another year to imoprove to even be drafted in my opinion. In a weak year at QB, I don't know if he would have been selected in the normal draft, let alone the supplimental draft. He has too many character issues, not a good enough arm, extremely inconsistent, and doesn't really prove to have much leadership. Don't get me wrong, he is a very good college football player, and someone may take a flyer on him and he would certainly get a FA tryout, but it would be a mistake for him to do it, even with all that is going on around him at OSU.
Honestly, Pryor jokes are fun and all, but there's no way NFL teams aren't going to take a chance on him. Not first round, but 2-5. He is a physical freak. He could easily put on 25 pounds and be a beast tight end or WR. He is too big and too fast to not be used in some capacity at the NFL level.
I agree - I think his ceiling is late 1st round as a TE, but that's only if TP states he's willing to play TE and if there isn't 1 or 2 very good TE's coming out the same year. More realistically, he's a second or third round pick on athleticism alone, maybe worse depending on attitude and what position he says he's willing to play. If he's insistent on being a QB, he might fall further.
I don't know why everyone thinks he can play TE. He hasn't blocked anyone his entire career and he is a soft QB in who avoids contact on top of that. I know there is a place for receiving tight ends, but you have to be somewhat physical and have basic blocking techniques. No team is going to take a flyer on situational tight end who can't block. Maybe a WR....and that's a big maybe
OK - as of last year, Pryor was listed at 6'6" and 233lbs. And we all know how well he can run. That will be enough for a team to take him and turn him into a TE. Maybe he needs a lot of coaching on how to block, maybe you use him primarily as a receiving TE, maybe you split him out half the time anyway. Either way, his size and speed are worth taking a bit of a risk on.
I don't disagree with you that he has some major flaws that could keep him from excelling in the NFL. However, you can bulk up a player and teach him how to block, or tell him that he'll make twice as much money if he can figure out how to block. You can't teach a guy to be huge and fast.
Terrelle Pryor, first round pick in the supplemental draft, to the Detroit Lions...
If TP were to change positions, it'd be to wr. He'd dominate smaller, but not faster dbs.
I would think the Matt Jones project would teach NFL teams not to take a flyer on athletic QBs who have great combine statistics (assuming pryor would work out for teams) whom they are planning to switch positions.
Pryor has certainly acted the part of the coddled idiot but I don't think Pryor is hunting for rocks like Matt Hones.
TP on is that he has no problem with contact. He runs out of bounds if he can, but that's because Tressel and the coaches don't want TP getting hurt, not because he's afraid of contact.
Watch him level Rex Sharpe in 2008:
I think if we were to ask Sarniak and Tressel (and various car dealers in CBus) he doesn't have much of a problem with contract either.
What's the O/U on TP's Wonderlic score?
over gets you -110, under gets you +115
not that i know anything about that stuff
before Pryor gets a 17 on the Wunderlic.
In negative numbers too?
As 11W said:
1. Publish garbage rumor relating to Ohio State football.
2. Watch pageviews skyrocket.
I knew starting that blog about Thad Matta's obsession with smutty lithographs from the late 19th century would pay off.
I was under the impression that the Vest represented the highest of integrity, oh wait....
"For whatever reason, the source told NFP that whether Notre Dame wide receiver Michael Floyd enters the supplemental draft."
What does that even mean?? It's not even a complete sentence, and because of it I'll trust the person that originally posted this rumor as far as I can throw him.
he went to tOSU to improve his NFL prospects over Michigan and Penn State. He's done well at tOSU statistically and won a lot of games. Mentally, I still think he's a basket case that won't hold up well against NFL defensive ends and secondaries. I can't wait for his first personal introduction to Troy Polamalu.
Pryor go to the NFL and forego his senior season? The NFL could use another Tight End.
You mean it's possible Terrelle Pryor is a lying shithead whose priorities are himself, himself, and himself?
If I were in Pryor's shoes, I'd bolt too. His coach basically coerced him into staying for another year and is now in a position to get fired himself.
Regardless of what was said publicly, we all know Tressel told the tatgate players that he'd badmouth them to the NFL scouts if they left Columbus early.
That may well be. Man, what a dilemma for a Michigan fan. Should we piss on Pryor or Tressel for this? Who's the bigger shithead? Should I have cake or ice cream? Bell's beer or Leinenkugel's? Steak or lobster? Decisions decisions....
Gotta go Leinenkugel's there, chief. Of course I live in Wisconsin so that might cloud my judgement. I also take ice cream over cake. Steak over lobster. Oh, and Pryor over Tressel.
This is fun! What else you got?
You've insulted my inner beer snob. I would take Two Hearted, by itself, over the entire Leine line.
Polish off a Bell's and a Leinenkugel's and you'll have enough ammo to piss on both Pryor and Tressel.
Tressel is the adult. It's not much of a choice.
Guys cut him some slack, going pro is a good choice for him right now. I mean he's going to make a real nice 3rd string tight end for about a year or two. The four or five teams that he plays for in that time will really appreciate his services.
UPDATED 2:59 p.m. ET: Adam Jardy of the Buckeye Sports Bulletin tweeted the following shortly after NFP’s post, further casting doubt on the report that has Pryor considering making himself available for the supplemental draft.
“Talked to someone very close to Terrelle Pryor who told me he has never once mentioned the Supplemental Draft. Stop that rumor right now.”
I have an idea why, it's because he's really fucking stupid.
"I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."
TP should sign up for the draft today... The 2011 Canadian Football League Draft is less than a month away!
Renaldo Sagesse is the 16th rated player in the 2011 CFL Draft!
Let him go. College doesn't need him for another year....but I'll think about how it would go
For Pryor staying, while this class looks average at QB with Gabbert, Locker, Dalton, Mallett, Newton, Kaepernick, Ponder, etc, I think next year's class will be weak.
Besides Andrew Luck who has to "Jake Locker" us to not be drafted #1 next year looking at the rest of the slate I'm seeing next year's QB class is....
Kellen Moore, Brandon Weeden, Case Keenum, Jacory Harris, very likely Landry Jones, Ryan Tannehill, Zach Collaros, Ryan Nassib (who I had completely forgotten about existed during the offseason), Kirk Uncles, Dan Persa, Dayne Crist, Ryan Lindley, Nick Foles, Steven Threet (yeah right), possibly Darron Thomas, possibly Matt Barkley, John Brantley, Jordan Jefferson, Chris Relf, Bryant Moniz.
Top 5 will be something like Andrew Luck, Kellen Moore, Landry Jones, Ryan Tannehill, John Brantley (not entirely based on ability but mostly based on how next season will go)
None of these have the running/throwing mix capability of Pryor or are as skilled at it. If he comes out in this supplemental draft and teams are looking for a running type QB and look at Pryor versus Kaepernick, Newton, Dalton, and Locker who have had pro days and the combine to show off their stuff I don't think Pryor measures up favorably.
Of course, if he doesn't get to play much next year because of some other OSU QB gets a really hot hand by the time he comes back or OSU is 0-5 (hopes) and irrelevant on the national scene maybe people will forget what he can do.
The QB class next year will still be strong enough that no one will waste a first round pick on Pryor - probably not even a second round pick. Keep in mind that a couple other guys who could come out are Robert Griffin and EJ Manuel, both will be RS juniors this fall, both should be starters, and both would be picked over Pryor if they come out, especially for a team looking for the mobile QB type.
Not to mention all the pro-style QBs you mentioned like Luck, Moore, Brantley, Barkley, Weeden and Jones. Or whoever ends up being the Andrew Luck this fall and decides to enter early.
This might sound like a dumb question, but could he still play even if he enters? I mean, it seems like one would not give up their amateur status so long as you haven't received any money.
Its a rumor... He's not leaving tsio.
Pryor isn't going anywhere.
Even after his five-game extension he'll still get a chance (barring injury, additional suspension or other unforseen circumstance) to play at Nebraska, at Illinois (chance to go 4-0 in career), Wisconsin (chance to go 3-1 in career), Indiana (chance to go 4-0 in career), at Purdue (chance to go 3-1 in career), Penn State (chance to go 3-1 in career) and at Michigan (chance to go 4-0 in career).
And then, if Ohio State ends up with a better Big Ten record than Wisconsin, Penn State, Illinois, Purdue and Indiana, he'll get a chance (again, barring injury, additional suspension or other unforseen circumstance) to play the winner of the Legends Division in the first Big Ten Championship Game, to win his fourth straight Big Ten title (and second outright title).
If he QBs OSU to a win in that game -- and maybe if he doesn't -- he'll get a chance to play in his fourth straight BCS game and win his third straight BCS game.
So, sure, he QBs Michigan's rival and he exercised some bad judgment during his time at OSU. He got suspended for five games for selling his awards. He says some ridiculous shit. He may not make a great NFL player (even though that's why he chose OSU and Tressel over Michigan and Rodriguez).
We don't have to like him, and most people don't. But it is ridiculous to question his college football talent. He has dominated Michigan during his time at OSU and has a chance to be the first Buckeye to beat MIchigan four straight years. I respect his football ability and will be glad when we don't have to play him anymore.
Sadly, that's not a huge accomplishment. A ton of QB's have dominated us the last 3 years. Mediocre QB's have dominated us. QB's making their first ever starts have dominated us. In the 3 years Pryor has been at OSU, we have fielded 3 of our worst teams in school history with the worst defenses in school history. 2010 having the worst D ever.
I don't think the idea of going 4-0 against us had anything to do with Pryor's decision to come back. He doesn't give a crap about the rivaly. If he did, he wouldn't have sold his gold pants. And that fact alone makes me want to see Blue pound him in the ground more than any dumbass comment he has made.