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I don't think they changed Les at all actually
national champs baby
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first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"
stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly
rundown of Michigan's riser
needs moar usage
so much for that
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
will be michigan's highest pick in a while
money has to go somewhere
I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.
the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?
Its all about the team your on. Luke Kuechly, who was drafted 9th out of BC to the Carolina Panthers, had better numbers and played on a worse defense than Teo during his time at BC. Where's the love? If ND weren't a national championship contender, I don't even know if he would be considered. Plus, he had a better year last year statistically (save for the huge increase in interceptions).
While I agree, there is some basis to stand on. BC lost 7 games last year. You are 100% correct that if ND wasn't a NC contender this year he wouldn't be in the mix. However the Heisman trophy is:
The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.
woodson. period. no discredit to t'eo, but woodson was a much more dynamic player. he made plays in all 3 phases of the game vs t'eo who just exceled on defense.
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Not even close. The only way I could see a linebacker ever winning would be someone like Clay Mathews or Aldon Smith, a game changing pass rusher which Te'o simply isn't. I think Manzeil has the heisman locked up at this point. Linebackers simply are not as valuable as cornerbacks unless they are elite pass rushers.
I don't want him to win it because I love the fact the we have the only defensive player to win the Heisman. However, I wouldn't mind if Teo did win because I believe that he is one of the best kids in the league. Te'o, like Denard, is very hard to hate. No matter how much you despise Notre Dame, you can't hate the guy. I am okay with whatever happens.
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Played defense, offense, and special teams. All extremely well. Te'o plays defense. End of discussion comparing the two.
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I'm actually kind of shocked. I think Te'o is hands down the best player. We laud Notre Dame's defense and the fact that they have been the difference for them, but Te'o is just a great player. We love stats and I think that is why the trophy seems to go to a mobile QB by default anymore. I don't know, it just seems to me like the kid makes big plays all the time. He has seven pics and 2-3 of them were spectacular catches.
Teo' is a great player but not the best in the country. I'll take Lee(wr from USC) all day everyday
Oh, for the record, I DO NOT think Te'o > Woodson. Think he is deserving of the Heisman though.
Hey everyone, remember when it was ludicrous to think that Geno Smith wouldn't be in NY for the ceremony?
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
How ironic would it be, if the Heisman trophy winner in the iconic photo taken by Sam Wolson of the Michigan Daily turned out to be Te'o Manti, and not the famously-posed Denard Robinson...
I sure do like that picture...
I didn't follow the link because I don't care what Skip Clueless has to say. However, I think that Te'o deserves to win a Heisman for his ability to affect the outcomes of games. For me, it's simple: ND is probably an 8-4 team without him this year.
He just might. Unless Johnny Football wins however lots of people don't seem to want to vote a freshman. Teo kinda has that allure to him with the notre dame hype machine along with his personal tragedies this past year. However he is not on the same level as woodson. For instance half of Teo's interceptions were from Robinson where denard put it right in the breadbasket, not any crazy plays like Woodson's catch against MSU. But hey, they have to give it to someone
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CW is probably the best defensive back ever to play the game in the future. It is a physical impossibility for any defensive player to ever be better than him. Teo should pay a fine for even being mentioned in the same sentence as him. It seems that the maize and blue glasses say that Strongarm Stonejaw QB, Fleetfoot Sackevader QB, Speedy Fasterson WR, or Shiftyeye Quickfoot RB are the only ones to be allowed to win the award. Oh, I forgot to mention Michigan players qualify by default regardless of position. If we take the glasses of we can see that, yes, sometimes our rivals have great players that deserve the award. That is not a knock on any of our award winners, and it is ok.
Seriously though, it is a legitimate question. Those that say that Teo must return a kick or play wide receiver are ridiculous. Playing multiple positions is not a prerequisite. Those who give credit to the DL for his success have a point, but wouldn't that invalidate the QBs who won it with great OLs and WRs as well as RBs with good OLs? Football is, and always will be, a team sport, so the Heisman will always have an element of team in it. I would like to hear the rational as to why only certain positions or certain stats or a certain build should qualify or disqualify someone for the Heisman?
To compare Teo to CW, though, is tough to do because they play different positions. I'd just as soon say that it is an impossible comparison and any attempt to do so will be nothing more than an opinion marinated in specifically filtered statistics.
Teo is a fantastic player and has 7 INTs from the linebacker position. The record for career INTs by a linebacker in the NFL is 37 over a 13 year period. 7 in one season is crazy good for a LB. I'd love to see him become the second defensive player to win the award.
Te'o isn't even the best defender in college football. Plus he only plays one way. End of story.
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Woodson, along the lines of Robinson, was electric. I know I rib you guys about Denards September Heisman, but I would have loved to have seen him snag that trophy and melt the theatre with his smile.
There is no comparison here for Woodson vs T'eo. Its Woodson hands down. Saything that however, if T'eo wins I submit that he would win it for being the only 100% defensive player. Clearly Woodson was a game changer and anyone punting to him, throwing his way or ignoring him on offense was in for a rude awakening.
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that is all.
GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY
it should've been Suh.
I'll give my two cents. I agree with much of what has been said already in that this is a down year for true standouts so if there was ever a year for a defensive player to take the award this would be it. I also agree that Woodson was simply a better player that Te'o because he could single handedly take over a game from a position that you rarely saw that. Whether it was interception returns, punt returns, receiving yards, rushing yards....when he touched the ball anything could happen.
Where I differ from most is on my opinion of Te'o (and this is just my opinion). I think he is one of the best linebackers to play college football in the last decade. For a guy who only plays on the defensive side of the ball he has an uncanny ability to change a game whether he is the one making the play or causing offensive players to pay too much attention to him leaving things open for other players.
I hate Notre Dame as much as anyone, but I have to give this guy his due. He is an incredible athlete and I can certainly see why he is being considered for the heisman. I don't think he is as good as Woodson (but it is hard to compare since they play different positions) but I certainly think he is more than just a "very good" player, I think he is the best defensive player in the country and one of the best in the past decade. Good for him if he wins it, it doesn't diminish anything CW has done.
I hate Notre Dame, but Teo is a great kid and a great player. He doesn't equal Woodson, but he is a true leader and a superb linebacker. I would not have a problem with him winning the heisman. He is everything a college athlete should be...well except he should be playing with a winged helmet..
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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