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Up Tempo Power -- New Innovation?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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Up Tempo Power -- New Innovation?
Pats v. Broncos
Pats line up in double TE, single back set and run power. Nothing new here. But then, Pats go UP TEMPO -- 3 yards and a cloud of dust that doesn't have time to settle because they are up and going again -- over and over and over!
I've been watching football for many years, and I have NEVER seen a team run up tempo power -- usually it's done from the gun/spread.
Hey Borges, did you happen to catch SNF?
I loved it, and would love to see it come to Ann Arbor.
Thoughts?
October 9th, 2012 at 5:11 PM | 
I saw that too
I saw that too
October 9th, 2012 at 6:59 PM |
They were talking on
They were talking on
They were talking on broadcast that Belicheck(sp) had the Oregon offensive coaching staff in NE this summer picking their brains about running an up tempo offense more consistently.
October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 PM |
Thought it was a great idea
Thought it was a great idea
Thought it was a great idea against the Broncos, their former head coach calling plays against them. With Ty Warren out the Broncos just aren't strong up the middle on defense. They're world class on the outside with guys like Dumerville, Brooking, and Miller, but they're a patchwork at Tackle and Mike.
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October 9th, 2012 at 5:21 PM |
Generally speaking the kind
Generally speaking the kind
Generally speaking the kind of players who run power offenses don't have the conditioning to do that consistently (think Michigan's early 2000s OL vs Oregon's current OL), but from a purely tactical perspective it would work similarly well as the hurry up spread would, assuming you practiced it as much. I'm not sure it fills a need in most power offenses, because they already have 2 minute offense packages, but it might be a good idea as a change of pace, or if you just want to shift up the offense without switching youe playcalling balance.
COYS and lets go Detroit FC!
October 9th, 2012 at 5:40 PM |
Interesting thought...
Interesting thought...
On the other hand, larger bulldozers would wear down the defensive line even faster than they would wear down, particularly if the OL is accustomed to up-tempo. In addition, DL is more accustomed to regular replacements, so if they can't swap out players, it makes it even harder on the interior DL. I think Up Tempo power might be an interesting thing to try.
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October 9th, 2012 at 5:28 PM |
have seen it..
have seen it..
But not that uptempo unless 2 minute drill........
Lots of teams did this with the option, they would wear teams out by just going and going and going...not as much as today where it was no huddle, line up and go...but I still remember some teams would just line up and run the same triple option and qb would make the call which option it would be and left or right.....power/weak, triple, speed, veer..........
October 9th, 2012 at 6:46 PM |
hmmm
hmmm
your hypocrisy knows no bounds...
- doc holiday
October 9th, 2012 at 9:08 PM |
Boston Globe had a great story on it
Boston Globe had a great story on it
The Boston Globe had a great story on the up-tempo offense. Definitely worth a read. Goes over how they use one-word play calls, Chip Kelly's involvement in the offense, and Brady talks about the pros and cons of going up tempo. Really good story.
Hot dogs are the devil.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:41 PM |
Great article
Great article
Everyone should read this article.
Putting aside the desirability of the WCO, one of my biggest concerns coming from the Notre Dame game was our inability to speed up in the fourth quarter when we were down two scores. From Saban's comments about the speed of play, to New England's no-huddle and Belichick's meeting with Chip Kelly, to the success of Oregon, to teams like West Virginia, Baylor, etc. (Mike Leach coaching tree), to even RR at Arizona now (48 points on Stanford with record pass attempts and pass completions in a Pac12 game), it seems clear that the ability to move quickly on offense and to limit defenses from substituting and getting into complex schemes is a significant advantage. I don't get the sense that Borges recognizes this or can coach it well.
October 9th, 2012 at 10:08 PM |
In two or three years
In two or three years
we'll be able to take this philosophy to the next level by rotating in fresh o-linemen from our two-deep bench.
October 9th, 2012 at 11:53 PM |
Didn't Moeller do this in the
Didn't Moeller do this in the
Didn't Moeller do this in the early 90s? I swear I remember Grbac running no-huddle if not for the whole game then definitely for whole non-two minute drives.
October 11th, 2012 at 10:33 PM |
That was more of a
That was more of a
That was more of a run-and-shoot offense though. But yeah, Moeller went no-huddle and M-Wolverine remembered the Big Ten inserting a rule to stop him. I didn't remember the rule but I was very 11 at the time. I know the NFL put a rule in to try to stop Jim Kelly and the Bills, but that was a WCO.
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October 10th, 2012 at 8:59 AM |
One of my FEW a far between Pet Peeves
One of my FEW a far between Pet Peeves
One of my pet peeves with Borges and I don't have many - think he's a great OC. We don't go hurry-up enough. Especially because it puts Denard in a rhythm (see Rich Rod years). It's less thinking and more playing.
MOAR HURRY UP PLEASE!!!
Just a times, just to change things up and give the D another look, catch them off balance, get Denard in rhythm, etc.
(Note: It doesn't have to be MANBALL hurry up...just ANY hurry up!)
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October 10th, 2012 at 9:27 AM |
This may be true, but it also
This may be true, but it also
This may be true, but it also puts tremendous stress on your defense, which is often out there quickly (especially if the opponent gets a quick stop or two)... again, see the Rich Rod years.
This can work if you have lots of defensive depth. We don't (yet).
October 10th, 2012 at 2:32 PM |
Not EVERY possession
Not EVERY possession
You wouldn't do this EVERY possession. I'm not suggest go back to the RR years at ALL. I love that we control the ball. But just as a change of pace...1-2 times per game MAX.
We often get caught for 1 drive in a game when a team goes hurry up on us. Even in the Nebraska game that we dominated last year, when they went hurry up, they scored...the next time they did it, they moved the ball until Kovacs went down with an injury and stopped the game.
Again, just a change of pace for a drive or two...nothing more.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
October 10th, 2012 at 9:58 AM |
If Denard is having trouble
If Denard is having trouble
If Denard is having trouble making the reads at normal speed, why do you think he'd be better off if we threw more plays at him?
Go Blue!
October 10th, 2012 at 2:36 PM |
Rhythm
Rhythm
I clearly stated that it can get a QB...especially one like Denard in a rhythm. A lot of times it takes some of the thinking out of the game because you can just read and react. Also, at times the defense is too busy trying to get set and get the right personnel on the field to disguise and confuse you...
I wouldn't do this a lot, but as a change of pace for sure...Denard looked VERY comfortable in Rich Rod's offense when we went to the "JET" speed. The problem was we scored too quickly or we punted too quickly...either way, the defense was on the field too much. But why not do this once per half if it presents itself?
I also think it would help us hit a big play, we're struggling with that this year. We did last year too if you take out the jump balls.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
A couple times it didn't work perfectly, but I really liked it (even though I'm a Broncos fan.) People hated McDaniels (wrongly) in Denver -- he comes up with some great schemes.