Noahdb

April 16th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^

Why is Ginn not at cornerback? He's a great athlete, he's got terrific hips...he just can't catch. It's not like marquee CBs don't get paid. You could still use him in the return game. Seems like he's playing out of position.

Space Coyote

April 16th, 2010 at 1:48 PM ^

All had him listed as a 5-star corner going to OSU. I really don't understand why he isn't either unless he is really just that terrible at tackling, in which case, he still can't catch so maybe at least give him a shot. I don't know

ironman4579

April 16th, 2010 at 1:54 PM ^

It probably has something to do with him being deathly afraid of contact as a WR. He falls over as soon as he catches the ball. I can't imagine him being much use as a defensive player. If a guy ever caught a ball on his side of the field, the defense better rally up quick, because I doubt he'd ever make a tackle.

GunnersApe

April 16th, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^

It said a late round pick, I was hoping they recoup the 2ed they lost with Marshall. Damn 49ers doing there homework. Now if they can trade Hartline for Avant, that would purge all the Bucks off Miami. EDIT: ESPN reports it's a 5th round Miami got in return.

Michigasling

April 16th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^

Glad to know I didn't imagine it. I mentioned that on an on-line Chat with the Detnews' Angelique Chengelis. (It might have been signing day, or the post-signing day chat. In my own defense, I'd been watching a tape and stopped it so I could follow the chat, and when I heard Chad's name...) I even told Angelique what he'd cooked-- something very healthy, maybe marinated chicken breast with asparagus? Can't remember now. And I'm sure Angie thought I was joking. Didn't clarify, of course.

befuggled

April 16th, 2010 at 3:01 PM ^

Believe it or not, Leaf was highly regarded coming out of college. Chargers fans weren't angry when he was drafted. Miami fans, on the other hand, were unhappy from the moment Ginn was drafted. Granted, they wanted to Brady Quinn, but Ginn was drafted way too high.

learmanj

April 16th, 2010 at 1:56 PM ^

I think the 49ers have gotten better though too. They are definitely the "winners" of this trade. I mean Ginn is at least worth a 6th or 7th round pick (even if he did go to the hellhole college). With SF having two first round picks plus a mid second rounder, they will be decent. I think Crabtree will continue the way he ended the season. A QB would help too......

learmanj

April 16th, 2010 at 2:31 PM ^

He might only be a 3rd receiver but he is also an above average return man. Plus I think making him a #3 receiver will be beneficial to his career. Miami wanted him to be a #1 outside receiver but his skills don't match the job description. He is a quick and shifty receiver, not a tall and lanky one.

WolvinLA2

April 16th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^

I agree that he's an above average return man. However, in his fourth year in the league, with a good QB, he fumbled (2) more times than he scored a TD (1) and he threw up a goose egg in terms of yardage (3) as many times as he racked up 40+(1) yards receiving. He averaged not quite 2.3 catches for 28 yards per game. This doesn't even account for all the dropped balls he had. And for all the speed he has, he had a total of 3 catches for 20+ yards, and one of those was 21. This does not scream "big pick-up" to me. Guys like this are picked up in free agency all the time. Without a quality QB, I'll be surprised if he ever repeats even those numbers.

Noahdb

April 16th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^

"He falls over as soon as he catches the ball. I can't imagine him being much use as a defensive player. If a guy ever caught a ball on his side of the field, the defense better rally up quick, because I doubt he'd ever make a tackle." How is that any different than Deion Sanders? A girl scout selling cookies could stiffarm and face-plant Sanders in the open field.

ironman4579

April 16th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^

I seriously doubt he'd be Deion Sanders as a CB, but I guess we'll never know. Deion's complete lack of tackling wasn't an issue because he may have been the best cover corner ever.

ironman4579

April 17th, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^

That is not man nor football player. That is a young god astride the universe, walking amongst the stars, crushing planets with his mighty fists, breathing in the souls of those whose dreams he has crushed.

spacemanspiff231

April 16th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^

This probably means that Miami will be looking for a wide receiver with their first round pick, most likely Dez Bryant out of Oklahoma State. If Dez is gone by the time the Dolphins get to pick, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they look to Brandon Graham at that spot and look for a wide receiver in round 2 or 3. There's really no other receivers worth taking that high. Could be interesting. Parcels loves Michigan players and definitely loves Graham. He raved about him after the combine and the Dolphins coaching staff definitely got a good look at him decimating their offensive line in the senior bowl.

spacemanspiff231

April 16th, 2010 at 2:39 PM ^

There's no reason I'm supposed to be up to date with every bit of news in the football world, so I hadn't yet heard that that trade had occurred. It is good to know, though. It's definitely a big trade. Well then I guess this really leaves the door more open for Brandon Graham. I know that there's some other players they could take there and are considered more likely to go higher than Graham, but Parcels really has had high praise for Graham and hopefully he looks to him in the first round.

ironman4579

April 16th, 2010 at 2:50 PM ^

Didn't say you were. Just informing you that it happened since it seemed you didn't know. No big deal. I still kind of doubt the Dolphins take Graham though. Parcells tends to like the prototype 6'3" or taller guys at OLB. I'd say Graham could potentially go as high as Jacksonville, but his likely landing places start at #16 and the Titans, then probably Atlanta at #19. It'd be nice to see the Michigan connection continue on the 'Phins though.