You either rebuild, or you're in a constant battle for the 7th and 8th seeds. Joe Dumars clearly has no idea how to compete in this stage of the NBA. Nothing against Tayshaun, but this team nees to start over, and play the young guys. Unless this is a part of a sign and trade. this is just another in a long line of terrible decisions by Dumars.
I have something against
This has to be part of a sign and trade
4 years when he's already at -2 years of real productivity? And $28 mil more against the cap to go with all the other bad contracts?
They're worse than a 7 or 8 seed...they're praying that the 1 ping pong ball they get every year will turn into the #1 pick. (And yes, I know they don't use ping pong balls anymore).
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
My guess is C Chris Kaman of
My guess is C Chris Kaman of the Los Angeles Clippers. They are about to (reportedly) offer C DeAndre Jordan a 5 year and 40 million dollar deal, which would make Kaman a backup paid 12.7 million in the final year of his contract. It is rumored that LAC has coveted Prince in the past, and center is a need on the Pistons that would be filled by the former Central MIchigan product, Kaman.
We'd be *something* like:
Stuckey/Knight
Hamilton/Gordon
Jerebko/Daye
Monroe/Villanueva
Kaman/Monroe
Also of note: Jerebko will be re-signed for 4 years and 16 million.
You also have to factor in
You also have to factor in that the Pistons have the option of getting amnesty on one of the contracts. Like maybe they don't need to be paying Gordon and Hamilton tons of money. Or Villanueva.
I have. Reports are that
I have. Reports are that nobody gets amnestied this season.
I personally would give Jason Maxiell the axe. Guy's making 5 million for the next two years to be an undersized 6th big with no skillset to speak of. You need to see what the new coach can do with Gordon and Villanueva before you amnesty them. Neither of them were utilized in a manner close that even remotely resembled their roles when they found success in the NBA (inconsistent minutes, bench v starter, shot attempts, etc.), and it's in our best interests to try to get their trade values up.
Jason Maxiell, on the other hand, is useless to 90% of the teams in the league.
Agreed
I side with the posters who say we need to go young. We're clearly not playing for a championship. We're probably not even playing for the playoffs. So let's go young, lose a ton of games while our young guys learn, get another draft pick or two, and watch this team rise gradually over the next few years.
Seeing a young, talented team grow is much more interesting to a fan than watching a mediocre slew of players who aren't going to accomplish anything and just talk shit all day long.
In other words, I'm hoping this is a sign-and-trade for someone young or maybe just a body and a draft pick.
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Who cares. I wish they'd cancelled the entire season and the nba ceased to exist.
But you care enough
To open a thread obviously about the NBA and take time out of your day to comment... Makes sense.
"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"
Why do people who don't like
Why do people who don't like the NBA insist on posting on NBA threads. You know what nobody cares about? Your opinion of the NBA.
Whatcha gonna do, little brother?
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Because I'm sitting in a traffic jam bored, and it's a free country to have an opinion.
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The traffic has begun already? I dread my drive home everyday. Thank you mgoblog. Thank you kork coupons thread.
All in for some manball.
that doesn't mean
your opinion can't suck
Remember when we passed on
Remember when we passed on Carmelo and Wade for Darko?
Yeah...
Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05
Space bitches, space.
I used to love Joe D but he has clearly lost it
basically if they resign Prince it means they are either not re-signing Stuckey or Jerekbo or they going to pay the luxuary tax. All that and they continue to stunt the growth of Daye.
Joe could've traded Prince last year to Dallas for their first round that wound up being Jordan Hamilton who would have been a much younger, cheaper option at SF.
The NBA sucks as a league, but at least when the Pistons are decent I will pay some attention. Now, I wish they had just cancelled the whole season.
Jerebko got 4 years 16 mill
how is that post redundant?
?
NBA
I hate that we are talking about the NBA again...
Lockout, please come back, I hardly knew you.
My username is spelled "mgordoblue", but it's pronounced "Throat Warbler Mangrove".
I dont mind Tay
I dont mind Tay actually....would much rather rid us of Hamilton...that guy is a cancer in the locker room and it all started with him.
Tay wasn't exactly innocent
Tay wasn't exactly innocent last year, either. He actually went further in publicly undermining John Kuester than Hamilton did.
Keuster
was a terrible coach, didnt know what the hell he was doing. Now I am not giving a pass to the players because a lot of them acted like babies but Lawrence Frank can coach, he has proven it. If you get the right guy in there to motivate the players and bring in some good game plans, teams change...look what Mattison and Brady did.
Tay can still play and they needed a forward. Free agents are not interested in Detroit anymore because of the losing but with the new coach and new ownership I think we can make it work.
Go Blue!
I love Prince but he needs to be somewhere else.
I want to see him and Rip finish their careers out on some championship team. The Pistons need to start rebuilding and get rid of Dumars. I wish these were still the days where I thought Dumars was a doing a great job...
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
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Sweet. Over / under 14 wins this year?
All in for some manball.
Push? Hopefully under though,
Push? Hopefully under though, Harrison Barnes or Anthony Davis would be a great addition to the lineup.
LOL ew
seriously? the Pistons are going to be terrible for a long time...
Just when you think you've got it bad
There's always someone out there who has it worse...
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
New GM
I wish Gen. Patton were still alive, we need someone who knows how to tank. That man was a God Damn tanker!
So when is Joe Dumars going
So when is Joe Dumars going to announce the return of teal jerseys?
"I don't think we're rebuilding, period. We're Michigan."
--Brady Hoke
If this isnt a sign and trade
If this isnt a sign and trade for Kaman...Then JOE D NEEDS THE BOOT!
I loved the lock out...pleaes come back! the NBA is a joke! worst sport ever
Life's a game of Inches
disgusting. Let's re-sign
disgusting. Let's re-sign Stuckey, too. Then we'll have the quadfecta of awful, overpaid, dumpster players: Stuckey, Tay, Ben Gordon and Charlie V.
This team needs flushed. Loved the Brandon Knight draftig. Hate this...
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by Dumars' logic...
Stucky should get a max deal
I think you mean "Tayshaun
I think you mean "Tayshaun Prince to re-sign with Detroit".
Did you see him play last
Did you see him play last year? I think the OP had it right.
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This is a solid deal
4 years for 27 mill
he was making 11 last year
Very affordable, also we singed jonas
Big $ coming off the books will be Rip, not Tayshaun
We need to figure out something to do with Rip as we have multiple shooting guards
It would be
This would be a solid deal, if this team were a competitive team. This is not a team that is a playoff competitor, that's clear to anyone around the league. Tayshaun is a great piece, to a playoff team who needs a long armed defender, and a good open shooter. Granted your point about Rip is a solid one, and combined with Villanueva's contract, are two prime trade suspects. But, I believe something else is at play here. I think they really believe that Lawrence Frank will make all the difference.
he will make a huge difference
I think Frank can coach
its been a while since the pistons have had a legit coach
If I know Joe, and I think I
If I know Joe, and I think I do, that "something" will be to sign a few more shooting guards.
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67-22-3 all-time
Not only do we have multiple
Not only do we have multiple shooting guards, we've got about 36 small forwards now, too.
We can has sign and trade?
We can has sign and trade?
Michigan Resurgent? Michigan Resurgent!
The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!
Who
Are the pistons?
So hot. Milk was a bad choice.
Jerebko is back. That's all I
Jerebko is back. That's all I really care about.
I'm indifferent about the Tayshaun signing. Maybe this means he likes Lawrence Frank? It's not a huge contract and he can be easily moved if they are out of the playoff hunt or just don't want him anymore.
I think Rip needs to go. On his last legs and his contract is more obtrusive.
Yeah! But doesn't he have to be resigned?
Or will his contract expire next year?
Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!
Rip's contract expires at the
Rip's contract expires at the end of the 2013 season and he's due 12.5 mill per.
Rip should have been sent packing last season
I thought a deal with Stuckey could have fetch Bosh.
Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!
I know there's some stupid
I know there's some stupid GMs in this league, but there is no way on earth we were getting Bosh for Stuckey and Rip. Randy Smith thinks that's a bad deal.
OT: Darius Morris
Any News on whether Darius Morris is gonna make the Lakers squad?
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detroit has an nba team? shit, they any good?
It's almost like they don't
It's almost like they don't want us to go to any games this year....
If it's not a sign-and-trade Joe D has really lost his mind
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Just forget about the Pistons, they fucking suck
Such a bull shit team
"Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?"
I've enjoyed the NBA for 30
I've enjoyed the NBA for 30 years, but at this point it seems like the players are posturing for a league in which a half dozen teams have all the all-stars, and the rest are also rans jockeying for draft position.
People want to go young, but I feel that's true for half of the league. How do you propose going young? Trade older junk for young players with potential? Exactly which team will be the trading partner? And if not through trade, who would you sign? All the amazing young players who are free agents? A. There aren't many. B. They don't want to go play for a franchise that has had several dysfunctional years and no realistic title shot.
So Joe (and I'm not being a homer defender) did what he had to do. Kept a veteran who still has value when healthy and signed him to a contract that's actually a bargain in this market. Prince will either bring a leadership role to young members of the team (Monroe, Jerebko, Knight, Daye) or be great bait for a trade deadline move to a contender for a raw talent and/or draft picks. Meaning...for those who want to go young, signing Prince make actually be the most likely way to go young. Sign what's there to get draft picks later.
I can't fault Joe for holding onto his assets as long as he is open to making moves and plans to buy low and sell high. Any player can be a valuable commodity depending on how large their contract is and how far into it they are, which is why Rip was virtually untradeable last season but his increasing value from here forward. This is a net positive transaction considering Prince took a pay cut when his productivity hasn't yet fallen.
Our biggest issue was at starting SD and now he can refocus on clearing up the logjam at SG. Overall I approve.
I have something against Skeletor. Sick of watching him mope up and down the court. This better result in a trade for something of value.