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Taylor Lewan - "always somebody better that came before you"

If you bother to keep an eye on MGoLicious, you may have seen an article on MLive wherein Taylor Lewan discusses the RS Freshmen that will be playing next year a little bit. (Unfortunately, no indicators about which way he himself is leaning). At any rate, one quote of his stands out, where the article concludes.

"I'm proud of what they've done, but if you play at a school like Michigan, you need to know that nothing is ever good enough. There's always somebody who came before you who was better."

There's no arguing that the best Left Tackle in Michigan history is Jake Long. We've had a number of really great Tackles, but Long is just tops. That's who Taylor must hold himself up against. And dang it if that's not a tough act to follow. The question I would like to pose is this:

What would Taylor Lewan have to do in his senior year, should he return, to become the greatest ever? Is it even possible? Part of Long's incredible success was our rushing game during his tenure. surely, Lewan cannot be held accountable for the interior line's problems causing our rushing game to have some major issues, but does our lack of a rushing game  this past year hurt him in "greatest ever" respect? Is it possible for him to become the greatest ever without a Hartesque rushing game coming out of the backfield?

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December 7th, 2012 at 2:39 AM | Jake Long gave up one sack in (Score:5 Normal)
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Jake Long gave up one sack in his final year. That's the standard.

Hail to the college whose colors we wear,

Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!

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December 7th, 2012 at 2:40 AM | That too (Score:1)
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That too

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December 7th, 2012 at 4:28 AM | Fuck that's impressive. (Score:3 Normal)
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Fuck that's impressive.

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December 7th, 2012 at 5:44 AM | He would also need to limit (Score:3 Normal)
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He would also need to limit penalties.

Touchdown Michigan!

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December 7th, 2012 at 7:06 AM | Sack total drops to zero when (Score:5 Normal)
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Sack total drops to zero when only considering players not roided out of their minds.

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December 7th, 2012 at 9:55 AM | ^Gholston (Score:-1 Overrated)
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For those who didn't know. Roids? What roids?

 

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December 7th, 2012 at 10:35 AM | The first picture is of Will (Score:5 Normal)
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The first picture is of Will Gholston.

The last two pictures are of Vernon Gholston.

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December 7th, 2012 at 11:30 AM | Let that be a lesson, then, (Score:5 Normal)
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Let that be a lesson, then, kids.  Steroids may change your physique but they can also alter your identity.

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December 7th, 2012 at 1:53 PM | Look what happened to Brady; (Score:3 Normal)
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Look what happened to Brady; roids, maybe? You be the judge...

TOM-BRADY-PIC-1 

 

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December 7th, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Let's just call them both Tom (Score:5 Normal)
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Let's just call them both Tom and be done with it.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | Here's a photo of Vernon (Score:2)
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Here's a photo of Vernon Gholston in high school:

It's a small photo, but he certianly appears to have grown some new arm veins in his time at Ohio.

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December 7th, 2012 at 1:26 PM | I gain 30 pounds (Score:0 Overrated)
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I gained 30 pounds throughout my 4 years of lifting at Michigan. I must have been on roids too....

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December 7th, 2012 at 3:11 PM | But... (Score:5 Normal)
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Did you have PED rumors surrounding your time in college? Put up surprisingly small numbers at the NFL combine when there was a different set of procedures and tests?

And then did you become a huge bust in the NFL under that set of PED tests?

Because if you did I'd say you may have been on Roids in college.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:05 PM | Wrong Gholston. (Score:2)
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nm

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December 7th, 2012 at 9:50 AM | If I recall, (Score:1)
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it was a relatively brutal one during The Horror.  Could be wrong though.

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December 7th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | You recall incorrectly, it (Score:4 Normal)
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You recall incorrectly, it came against Ohio.

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December 7th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | Maybe it (Score:1)
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was a corner blitz that I am remembering against Appy then.  I just know that somebody coming from the left side decleated Chad Henne at some point during the first half of that game.

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December 7th, 2012 at 10:37 AM | 4 sacks? (Score:1)
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I thought I read Long only gave up 4 sacks in his Michigan career.  Can anyone confirm this?  I am still looking for link.

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December 7th, 2012 at 2:39 AM | TL LT (Score:1)
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Taylor Lewan is the best ever if he has 20 pancakes, Fitz (or starting RB) has 1,500 rushing yds, Devin has 3,000 passing yds, we win the B1G championship, and we win the Rose Bowl. Oh, and if he doesn't go pro..

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December 7th, 2012 at 2:49 AM | i hope i am wrong, but i (Score:2)
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i hope i am wrong, but i think he is going pro this year

i do think if he stays for his senior year he could reach a jake long level, though

would need a good year out of devin and a solid running back for it to be noticed, though

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December 7th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | The new rookie salary (Score:3 Normal)
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The new rookie salary structure in the NFL financially weighs against his staying. While Long stayed an extra year, being drafted #1 landed him a huge contract (5 years/$57 million, with $30 million guaranteed). Compare that to Luck's contract this past year of 4 years/$22.1 million, (all guaranteed).

Under the new CBA, it's the second contract, signed after the 4th or 5th year, that really breaks the bank. There's much less of a difference in being picked first vs. being picked 10th (in 2007 it was $57 million vs. $18 million; in 2012, it was $22 million vs. $12 million). There's incentive for Lewan to get to his second contract as soon as possible. (All this is dependent on him being rated a top 10-15 pick). If he's not rated one of the top 2-3 OTs, then he should think about coming back.

As an aside, there was a good Grantland article about how picking Megatron, Suh, and Stafford under the old system had totally screwed up the Lions salary cap.

 

Salary numbers:

2007: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d808c2409&template=with-video&confirm=true

2012: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d828f4621/article/contract-status-for-2012-nfl-draft-firstround-picks

Grantland article: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8676418/detro-albatross-contracts-rest-week-12-news

Excerpt: 

The bad news, though, is that the Lions were the last team to be truly hit by the loser's curse of perennially grabbing top-five picks under the old CBA. The rookie contracts of Detroit's big three — Stafford, Calvin Johnson, and Ndamukong Suh — produced about $108 million in combined guarantees on the day they were drafted. If a team like the Colts had three top-five picks in three years today, those picks would only cost about $60 million in guarantees and have far less onerous terms at the end of the (shorter) contracts. When the final year of Johnson's deal tied the Lions up with a $24 million cap hold this offseason and threatened to create a situation in which the Lions wouldn't have been able to franchise2 Johnson the following year, they were stuck with no leverage and forced to give Megatron a deal that guaranteed him $60 million, a 20 percent jump on the guaranteed cash given to previous record receiver Larry Fitzgerald. The extensions that Stafford and Suh are likely to receive in the near future will likely be of similar size, guaranteeing Detroit's stars around $180 million while preventing the Lions from building up the rest of their roster.

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December 7th, 2012 at 3:02 AM | Jake Long is the Gold Standard (Score:3 Normal)
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Jake Long played perfect football for 2 full years.  The 1 sack he gave up Senior Year was on a frosh Mallet.  Lewan could definitely reach Long's level next year but he will not surpass him.

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December 7th, 2012 at 6:34 AM | I don't think the fact that (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't think the fact that it was Mallett really changes anything.  He still was beaten pretty badly, and it's not like Mallett held onto the ball for 15 seconds.

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December 7th, 2012 at 11:29 AM | I don't remember the (Score:2)
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I don't remember the situation, but what if it was one of those "this guy needs a nasty blindside hit to set him straight and I'm just the guy for the job....indirectly" sacks?  Not out of the question with Mallett.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | I would certainly hope (Score:2 Normal)
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I would certainly hope not.

In fact, I'd hope such a thing never happens.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | If I remember correctly, it (Score:2)
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If I remember correctly, it was Vernon Gholston in a game against OSU.  I doubt Jake Long would allow the team's biggest rival to hit his quarterback just to teach the QB a lesson.

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December 7th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | I think this is the one we're (Score:2)
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I think this is the one we're talking about; it was Henne, not Mallet.

 

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December 7th, 2012 at 4:29 PM | No, it was a sack...  But I (Score:2)
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No, it was a sack...  But I do think it was Henne, not Mallett, who got sacked.

EDIT: It's at the 3:45 mark of this video.  And it was Henne, not Mallett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlkG3SibVM

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December 7th, 2012 at 6:04 PM | Ah.  Thank you for spelling (Score:3 Normal)
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Ah.  Thank you for spelling it out slowly for me--I for some reason I found the evidence of Long getting blown up and was thinking "this must be it!"  I am a moran.  A dum, dum, moran.  I attribute it to being Friday.  Here's a completely offtopic kitten for putting up with me:

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December 7th, 2012 at 3:40 AM | Long was the best I can (Score:2)
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Long was the best I can imagine. I walked past him once and just shook at the size of the man and reports said no one worked harder.  

And yeah Taylor is playing with a different o-line and without the leading rusher in U of M history behind him (Lond definitely had something to do with that but I still had some "wow" moments with Hart) but his words still put a little onion in my eye. This tradition is really something special.

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December 7th, 2012 at 3:50 AM | It's gonna be a big switch (Score:2)
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It's gonna be a big switch going to the NFL and battling with the likes of Aldon Smith, Terrell Suggs, James Harrison, Jason Pierre Paul, Demarcus Ware, Von Miller, Jared Allen and their like. I'm sure Taylor is weighing very carefully if now is the time to take that step or not. I think he'll be a great NFL Tackle, though, and I'm sure he's gonna love to compete with those pass rushing beasts. He can go this year, and likely be the first lineman taken, but I wouldn't say him leaving is a guarantee. Wouldn't surprise me if he goes, wouldn't surprise me if he stays. Article really got me thinking about it.

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December 7th, 2012 at 3:46 AM | Whenever a young player is (Score:5 Normal)
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Whenever a young player is billed as the next whatever, it's rare that they ever fully live up that expectation.  I'm very proud of what Lewan has become both as a player and team leader.

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December 7th, 2012 at 4:36 AM | Cheer up, big guy (Score:5 Normal)
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No other UM offensive lineman has ever ridden a twosie.


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December 7th, 2012 at 6:22 AM | Number 1 overall in the draft (Score:1 Normal)
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It is tough to compare to Jake Long as he still stands as the only offensive lineman in history to go number 1 overall in the draft.  I am not sure that Lewan can live up to that, but then again who can?  I will say that Lewan is one of the best offensive lineman we have ever had and that is a very presitgious group of people coming from Michigan.  He is now the second person in a row to wear 77 and earn first team all American honors.

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December 7th, 2012 at 9:59 AM | you should check your facts (Score:2 Normal)
joeismyname
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you should check your facts before posting...Orlando Pace went #1 in 1997

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December 7th, 2012 at 11:51 AM | My mistake (Score:1 Normal)
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My mistake don't know what I was thinking. None the less it is a very rare and impressive feat

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December 7th, 2012 at 10:00 AM | There's been a few tackles (Score:1 Redundant)
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There's been a few tackles drafted #1. Orlando Pace comes to mind.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:25 PM | jonathan ogden was #1 overall (Score:1)
ak47
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jonathan ogden was #1 overall I think.  Ravens got Ogden and ray lewis in the same draft, that's pretty incredible.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | Nope.  4th. (Score:1)
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Nope.  4th.

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:41 PM | And let's not forget Ron Yary (Score:1)
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And let's not forget Ron Yary out of USC!

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December 7th, 2012 at 6:37 AM | Long was a more dominant run (Score:5 Normal)
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Long was a more dominant run blocker.  That's the biggest area where Lewan needs to improve if he wants to reach Long's level; not that he doesn't have the talent, but he needs to be more consistent.   And I think Lewan could afford to add another 5-10 lbs.

Of course, that's if he comes back...

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December 7th, 2012 at 6:54 AM | upcoming game (Score:5 Normal)
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Lewan vs. Clowney has to be one of the most intriguing 1-on-1 matchups this bowl season, doesn't it? Taylor probably has much to gain and (given Clowney's high profile) not *too* much to lose.

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December 7th, 2012 at 7:07 AM | Being that he'll be facing (Score:2)
Laser Wolf
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Being that he'll be facing that sort of beast every weekend in the NFL, I'd say he has plenty to lose.

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December 7th, 2012 at 10:37 AM | Eh, Clowney is probably (Score:3 Normal)
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Eh, Clowney is probably better than a lot of NFL defensive ends right now.

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December 7th, 2012 at 9:01 AM | I was going to say the same (Score:1)
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I was going to say the same thing.  If Lewan holds up well or neutralizes Clowney for much of the game I would say he is ready and goes on to the NFL and I would not blame him.  

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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December 7th, 2012 at 6:58 AM | I haven't read the article, but that's a very wise observation (Score:2)
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I haven't read the article, but that's a very wise observation by Lewan. It is very difficult not to compare yourself to others. Ultimately, you have to be the best that you can be, in the context of the team you are part of.

Comparison of player A to player B is a fun pasttime. Records give some sense and ability to do this. However, there are too many variables for comparisons to work purely. In this case, it has to do with the play of the rest of the offensive line, and the ability of our current running backs. Comparison of Lewan to Long also really is affected by the play of the rest of the offense, and by the caliber of the defenses played against in a particular set of games.

Regardless, we can all agree that Lewan has been a good one, and is following great footsteps in not only Jake Long, but other tackles who have been part of MIchigan's tradition.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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December 7th, 2012 at 8:02 AM | Lewan vs Clowney will be a (Score:1)
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Lewan vs Clowney will be a great matchup as long as Clowney is fully healthy. From what they've said on espn he's been dealing with a nagging foot injury that has caused him to lose a step. Could require surgery at the end of the season. Hopefully the time off before the bowl game gets Clowney close to 100% so we can get a true assessment.

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December 7th, 2012 at 8:05 AM | Fuck that 100% stuff (Score:5 Normal)
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I want the best chance to win.

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December 7th, 2012 at 10:12 AM | Why wouldn't you hope that Lewan was 100% healthy? (Score:2)
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We don't even know what kind of boo-boo Lewan has had for a good part of the season. 

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When the winds of changes shift

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December 7th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | That's just ESPN setting up (Score:2 Normal)
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That's just ESPN setting up an excuse for an SEC player.  

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