Taylor Currie reclassifying to 2018 (unconfirmed)
Supposedly this was just discussed on Inside the Huddle on WTKA. Sounds like former 2019 player Taylor Currie will reclassify to 2018. The Nance switch makes more sense if this happened before Nance visited NW.
I decided earlier this week to reclassify my retirement date from 2033 to 2031. I think I can have better luck finding a beach condo in 2031.
But seriously, how do these kids "switch" their "graduating class" like this? Is it all the prep school stuff?
I am an avid market watcher. This week has been, "yay, I made thousands of dollars...no, wait, shit, I lost it all, and more...but wait, now I made thousands more! No, wait, shit..."
It's cuddles now. He's upped his creeper game...
For sure. And unlike just 10 years ago, no one really knows why any more. A huge % of the trades made on a daily basis are based on high-speed trading algorithms, which react to signals that sometimes even the fund managers don't really understand. Why did the market plummet yesterday, after being up more than 1% on Wednesday? Um, who knows???
Nance and Currie play two different positions. The scholarship was going to have to be accounted for whether Currie reclassified or not. I doubt the two have anything to do with each other.
Not sure that's true. IIRC, Dylan at UMHoops thinks both were destined for the 5.
If Nance grows 3 inches and puts on 50 lbs then sure. Right now he's a 4, maybe he could play some 3 with his ball handling skills but I think that's a stretch. He's not a strong rebounder and he hates contact as he spends most of his floating around the permiter. He doesn't have much of a post game and doesn't like operating in tight spaces. Asking Nance to play the 5 right now would be like asking Duncan Robinson to play the 5.
Don't disagree (in fact I agree). I'm just saying I thought I recalled someone thinking differently.
Sick of guys allergic to rebounding and that's why I'm not sad he's going to NW. Loved watching Jordan Bell play and would like a guy like Simi Shittu at Michigan to add some toughness to our offensive firepower.
I would love that too, but ask yourself how many black centers with that type of athleticism has Beilein recruited. He definitely has a type of player he prefers there, let's hope for more Mitch and Mo's than for Doyle and Donnal's. Currie reminds me of Costello, but I'm with you that a menacing shot blocker and rebounder at that spot is badly needed on the roster.
Is there a reason you bring race into this, or is it just convenient to your argument? IOW if you asked how many athletic, tough centers has Beilein recruited people would immediately mention McGary, but by inserting the completely irrelevant attribute you sidestep that argument. Or are you implying Beilein doesn't like black guys who play center?
He likes skill guys, people who spread the floor, including at the 5. You know much more about the game than I, so what am I missing?
I just think it's an interesting detail. You're free to disagree, but skilled players who can space the floor aren't only white. Marcus Bingham is a kid who would have flourished under Sanderson and Beielin. He just committed to MSU.
That's a poor trick, Trump-like. I never asserted that skilled players are white. You are the one brining race into this discussion without any rationale whatsoever.
Before you lash yourself to the cross for being negged to oblivion for "just keeping it realz", you might want to understand the above reveals you: completely nonsensical criticisms of Beilein that seem almost on a personal level. It's mixed in with solid basketball analysis, but the former is why are you negged so.
I never criticized Beilein for anything, you made that leap all on your own. I think he has a type of center he likes to recruit and for the most part they all look the same. It was just an observation in response to the poster who mentioned how he would like to see a Jordan Bell type at center. Beilein has never landed anyone that looks or plays like Jordan Bell at center. That's just a fact.
Noting your implication of race in Beilein's recruiting is a you thing. Trying to turn it around won't work. Most of your shtick doesn't. I wonder if you're on other message boards or forums where flawed arguments aren't called out, so that bolsters your faith in them.
Don't know if I'd go there. How many highly athletic centers are really out there to begin with? I think it's more a case of just not being able to compete with Kentucky, Duke et al for those players.
Lots, and most of them don't go to Duke and Kentucky. Not sure why those two schools always get brought up when talking about Beilein's recruiting, as if they are the only two programs he competes for players with. In fact, he rarely recruits against either.
That's part of the point I'm making - if a player looking at those schools he isn't going to compete. Maybe there are lots of other big, athletic centers he's ignoring...could be.
LOl doesn't recruit "black centers with that much athleticism." Priceless drivel.
Beilein has been here 10 years and the number of non white centers he's landed is at two (and both light skin). The list of white centers he's landed reads Cronin, McClimans, Donnal, Doyle, McGary, Wagner, Beilfeldt, Davis, Teske, and Currie.
I really like Mo and I'd take a Mitch McGary over anyone Michigan has had at center since Tractor Traylor, but let's not pretend he doesn't have a type of center he likes to recruit and more often than not they are white. It's just an observation and an accurate one.
But sure, priceless drivel.
the number of non white centers he's landed is at two (and both light skin)
Jebus, dude. I know it's been a tough week for you, what with Beilein getting the Brandon Johns commitment, but now you're trying to paint Beilein as a racist? That's just fucked up.
Yep, that totally what I'm doing. Thanks for noticing.
Good god.
When you say that Beilein only likes a certain "type of player", and then go on to say that type of player is "white" (or occasionally "light skinned"), you're calling him a racist.
We get it. You don't like Beilein. But you should stop with the efforts to impugn his character. You think you're being a firebrand, but you're really just being a dick.
(And it's a shame, too, because when you're not trying to be a hardass contrarian, you have some interesting positions that get watered down by the vitriol.)
When you say that Beilein only likes a certain "type of player", and then go on to say that type of player is "white" (or occasionally "light skinned"), you're calling him a racist.
No, I'm saying he likes a certain type of player. You played the racisim angle all on your own. Fortunately for me there is a pile of evidence that says I'm right.
JB recruited Jordan Morgan and Jon Horford who are black.
idk i think Maizen's wrong (again)
I would love that too, but ask yourself how many black centers with that type of athleticism has Beilein recruited. He definitely has a type of player he prefers there, let's hope for more Mitch and Mo's than for Doyle and Donnal's.
You're free to disagree, but skilled players who can space the floor aren't only white.
I think he has a type of center he likes to recruit and for the most part they all look the same.
Beilein has been here 10 years and the number of non white centers he's landed is at two (and both light skin). The list of white centers he's landed reads Cronin, McClimans, Donnal, Doyle, McGary, Wagner, Beilfeldt, Davis, Teske, and Currie.
You're half right. There's a pile of evidence. But the pile of evidence, all quotes from you, suggests that you're race-baiting as your new form of being a "provacateur".
He was playing nice when he was down to -9 billion points. Now that he has his points back, he is back to his trolling ways.
Didn't even get all my points back. Got about half of them back. I think mgopoints are the dumbest thing on this site but apparently they mean a lot to posters for whatever reason. Give me negative a million again for all I care.
So either POC's who identify as centers on the court don't want to play for Beilein because...reasons. Or he recruits at every position with seemingly no regard for skin color EXCEPT center because...reasons. I'd ask you to explain this logic, but my guess is you can't and were instead trying one of your trademark "truth telling" rants and realized you stepped into something you didn't want to.
The most likely reason is Beilein does recruit players of all types for his team based on fit, and at the center position the past couple of years he's had slightly better success landing players who are melatonin-challenged, even though prior to that he got guys like Horford and Morgan, to say nothing about his play for Bamba. That may speak to player development, issues with biases at the HS level, I don't know. But to insinuate that the part of a player that matters to him in the middle isn't skill or willingness to come to the program but skin color is lazy hot taeking and your attempts to portray it as anything else is comical.
So you think he dropped Bamba because someone sent him a picture? C'mon man. He may have trouble landing the types of guys you describe (maybe?) but he actively recruits athletic centers.
Dude, not only is it unnecessarily/problematically racial to say such stupidity, but it's also just wrong. Sure, the guy we've signed at the Center position as tended to be white since the De'shawn Sims/Jordan Morgan/ Jon Horford days. But to suggest we haven't recruited athletic Black centers is, like most of your takes, stupid and not supported by fact. I can think of Mike Edwards, Levi Cook, Swanigan come to mind (though I know he's more of a 4). I know we didn't initiate the Mo Bamba sweepstakes, but we jumped in there too. Mostly, we've gotten early commits from our 5's the past few years, but to suggest that athletic (and more offensively), black 5's aren't recruited by Johnny B is priceless drivel.
Mike Edwards and Levi Cook, LOL, good one.
maybe he didn't satisfy some definition of "blackness" you've got in mind? We also had people saying that our new Milwaukee Buck was "soft as tissue paper" until late in the season last year; thankfully, people seem to come in all shapes, sizes, and sensibilities these days, and may not conform to superficial definitions of toughness, tinged as they may be with outworn stereotypes, or worse.
They plan is to redshirt him and let him spend a year with Sanderson.
You used to have over 10k MGoPoints, how'd you get sent to Bolivia Maizen?
LSA took away all my points and I was told it was because I was "being inflammatory." Didn't break any board guidelines but I guess that's besides the point when people don't like your takes. Apparently it's ok for other posters to call me a douchebag, prick, asshole, troll, etc though.