It'll be interesting to watch him back up Denard AND Devin the next two years.
Tate's Decision to Stay a Wolverine: The Backstory
I understand that he handled his demotion poorly, but damn. Even Stanley Jackson and Steve Bellisari didn't get this sort of hatred.
It's not hate for Tate. Not at all. That's not why i posted why I did. The truth is that Denard and Devin will likely be better quarterbacks, in Michigan's offense, than Tate will be in 2011 and 2012. Denard is great, and Devin might eventually be better. I'm not sure Tate fits into this situation.
Hate Stanley Jackson? I'll just go ahead and speak for Andre Weathers in saying we can do no such thing.
how is this hate? -38 points? fuckin chill- that's just what he thinks- disagree if you want to.
I'd say your comment, ("It'll be interesting to watch him back up Denard AND Devin the next two years."), while technically possible, is far douchier than anything Tate's done or said.
Denard's a classy, humble kid, but that doesn't give you an excuse to be an asshat to Tate.
I know what it is like to lose something you tried your hardest to keep.
It is brutal.
But you have to decide what is really important and move forward.
Tate has handled that situation about as well as anyone could. My hat's off to him.
Tate Forcier = Michigan Man
I thought that if he came through it all and stayed to play, we would be blessed with one bad-ass qb.. I stand by that.
I think part of Tate's problem is just being too amped sometimes. He's got to find a way to harness the nervous excitement.
His best football is still ahead of him and I'm grateful that he stayed.
That's a great interview, thanks for flagging. He shows a lot of humility and maturity -- and honesty, admitting that he wanted to leave, and how hard it is to be on the sidelines.
RR has been smart about giving him playing time in each game, so he can feel like he's part of things.
Wow. I'm quite impressed. This makes me like him a lot more.
A lot of people told me to leave.
These people need to be forced to run the stadium steps until they puke or pass out.
He's growing as a person; isn't that what college is about?
As for people telling him to leave: idiots.
Great coaching is assisting in player development on & off the field. Tate is handling the situation & himself well. Glad he's a Michigan Wolverine!
That's great to hear. I knew things had turned around with him after the Illinois win - which made us bowl eligible - to hear Tate's comments then. He didn't talk about himself or his performance - he was first happy to help get the Seniors to a Bowl game, then he said "I have 2 more years" and there'll be more bowl games.
There's a lot for Dave Brandon to consider, but this is one of them: all things considered, I don't think I'd trade our QBs for any set of QBs in the country.
Tater Nutz brought something to the table even Denard couldn't. It almost seems he is more elusive in the pocket without running. Maybe it is moxie, or true grit. Not sure, but glad to see him stick around. RR should work in some plays where he and Denard are on the field at the same time.
O, yea. I always think of this with Tater Nutz:
Will get rewarded when he becomes the starter in Jim Harbaugh's offense in 2011 (zing!).
Legit question, though - who's the likely starter in the event Jim Harbaugh is the MIchigan coach next year? I am NOT assuming he will OR calling for RichRod's head by asking this question, just thinking through an option. I actually think Tate's probably the guy (Harbaugh recruited him for Stanford, more traditional QB, etc.).
I think it's open and Tate has a much better chance to start then he does now. Ultimately Devin might be the guy if he stays he has the running ability and he can throw. He also has much better touch then Denard. Who knows what will happen if Harbaugh becomes coach.
It is a sensitive topic to think about the future here. I'm just going to wait and see i'll support the team either way.
I am pretty confident that he will try to use Denard as his QB. He would know that he has one of the top 3 weapons in college football and not using him would be idotic. If for some reason he decides that they can do better with Devin or Tate and use Denard somewhere else, fine, but I doubt that would happen. If it did, I would bet on Devin. I think he could be very similar to Andrew Luck in that he isn't the runner Denard is but he can run and he can throw it well. Andrew Luck isn't a statue QB. he isn't Danard, but they do use some option principles. It's not like Kirk Ferentz is coming in here, or at least I hope not.
I've always thought that he got an unfair rap. People who meet Denard Robinson tend to be very impressed by how nice a kid he is, and I certainly believe it. That doesn't mean, however, that Tate is a douchebag. While I found the youtube video of the two QBs arguing very funny, I also thought that it was a little unfair, a little presumptuous, and kind of mean. And even if Tate was upset about losing the starting job, do you really think that you wouldn't quietly feel the same way if you were in his shoes, even if at the same time you were happy for Denard and believed in a team effort? The kid has swagger, sure, but I found it healthy.
Besides, does this tidbit really make Tate seem that douchy?
And when the scare-tactic movie “Paranormal Activity,” a surprising hit among the college crowd, came out, he went with some friends only to find out that it was sold out.
“He’s not the type to go up to the manager and say, ‘Do you know who I am? I’m the Michigan quarterback,’ or whatever,” Jason said. “He’ll go home and check another time or make other plans. He doesn’t think he should be getting special treatment or anything. He’s just another regular kid.”
First off, if Jason is Jason Forcier, well, that's some convenient window-dressing on behalf of his brother.
Second off, this website:
accomplishes more than his words ever could. "Loyal fans....Good Media Reporting.....Mistakes, Pain, Shame and Critics."
You do realize that his dad runs that website, right? Poor kid.
I noticed that, JG, but I'll still take his word for it, even with a grain of salt.
"well, that's some convenient window-dressing on behalf of his brother"
Wow, dude. Really?
All the stuff going down lately and you have to keep running your suck about a kid that made a gutsy choice to stay and ride it out, rather than take the easy route and start somewhere else?
"What’s hard for me is he’s having so much success and there’s nothing you can do about it except stay ready."
Not at all a fan of this quote. I hope it just came out wrong.
"I was getting too caught up in seeing myself on TV every week. I think that would happen to anybody who would go from being a regular kid in high school to a national stage like that."
Except for like, you know, Denard.
what he went through, with the benefit of hindsight and greater maturity. Not only reasonable, but evidence the kid has some depth, I'd say.
Guess what, he is a kid. I shudder when I remember some of the things I said/did at that age. Denard may just be a bit more grounded. They had different upbringings and learned different lessons from their parents. Ultimately, I hope they both mature in their own way; they are both receiving a unique education/experience in Ann Arbor that will stay with them a lifetime.
All that said, I feel none of the apprehension one would normally feel when the back-up QB comes in. Tate plays with confidence and competence when he comes in, notwithstanding some turnovers, etc. That says a lot about our QB situation. Hopefully DG will be able to contribute as well.
is that he's realizing it, even that It may have taken him being removed from the spotlight to do so. Whatever shows up on the field, the coaches are apparently doing what we hope they would off the field. RRod isn't fond of divas, but he recognizes the difference between a diva and a kid who needs help to grow up. He got his wings back, and he's mature enough to stay and learn even when he doesn't get the ball.
before this season started as well as last season. Tate was a pretty cocky guy who thinks that he's an amazing QB. I thought to myself that if Tate doesn't watch out for himself, it could come back to bite him in the butt which it did. I've seen Tate again this season and he's much more mature and a lot less cocky. Pretty safe to say that he has been humbled by the process. I would expect Tate to work his butt off this off-season because he knows that it's an open competition. Denard, on the other hand, is quiet and humble yet confident in his ability to play QB. I came away impressed with Denard's temperment and he is still the same person now as he is a year ago. The QB competition will be fierce this off-season.
Devin is similar to Denard with regards to temperment and personality. Expect Devin to make a big push for the starting job next season.
and if that is Devin so be it. But man, it sure would be nice to start an experienced upperclassman at QB. Remember what that used to be like?
is nice to have an experienced QB. Tate has a year of starting experience under his belt. Ditto with Denard. You know RR, he's going to play the best player. Last year, it was Tate. This year, it's Denard. Hopefully, next year, it'd be Denard. It's a good problem to have for RR because he has two QBs that he can win with plus an another QB who has a higher ceiling than both Tate and Denard. RR learned his lesson that he can't get caught with his pants down when Pat White went down with an injury. Illinois game was a great example because Denard got hurt and Tate took over. The offense didn't miss a beat sans a couple of turnovers.
Good interview by Tate. I am very impressed with Tate given his well-documented success early on last year to his challenges this summer to having to begin the year as the #3 QB. I can't imagine the pressure on him by family/friends/media to "make the move" away from Michigan, and yet he stayed, work hard, matured and helped the Team throughout this fall. Well done, and thanks, Tate.
of Denard on the bench. It was just as hard this year watching Tate sit out much of the season. I was hoping that Tate's skills would be used more and Denard at times would be in the WR position(even if only used as a decoy). With Coach Rod's offense, the QB gets alot of hits and to ask Denard to keep getting up play after play is( IMO) asking to much. While I'm sure a young player like Denard is willing to take the hits, I think Coach Rod should of used Tate more to give Denard a break. This would allow both players a break and defenses would have more to prepare for-just my opinion.
I do wonder whether Denard will be constantly plagued by injuries because of the pounding he takes in our run oriented spread. He is extremely tough, but anyone will wear down over a long season with constant hits and a target on his back.
I wouldn't think so if Dee becomes the RB that everyone is hoping for. Having someone that explosive at RB takes a lot of the running load off the QB, thus less hits and a healthier Denard.
plus more running room when he does carry it. Next year opposing defenses will have to "pick their poison"
Boren just got family valu'd.
I was looking at the Wiki article on RR to check some dates, and I come to find there is a section on "Controversies" or some such, and it is largely a rehash of Boren and Rosenberg propaganda. If someone has a few minutes to spare, a judicious edit of that wiki article would be a service to humanity.
I'd much rather have Tate at QB for my alma matre's football team than an unlikeable, incoherent wack-job like Pryor. This interview was a nice read and I certainly hope the best for Tate and his education.
everyone hates on him for his frustration yet he's made touch decisions (and tough plays) at difficult times. compare that to the selfish actions of some players, whether on the team, left behind on game days or gone entirely, and i have a ton more respect for him than i did before.
God, Tate throws a great swing pass.
Uh, Katrina? Isn't that what you said?
one of the worst sport show tandems, her and rob parker. Almost as bad as valenti and foster.
Tate's personal growth and decision-making over the past year demonstrates great support and guidance from his parents. Give them credit as well.
It's good to see his maturation over the last 4-5 months. He's a team player. To be honest, I used to think he was a bit of a douche, but I love this kid now.
Thanks for posting this. It's nice to read his thoughts and his reasons to stay. With this system we definitely need him. His candor, dedication and loyalty are great qualities of a real leader and certainly one of the best.
I've heard some stories about Tate's crazy partying during the summer, while Denard was putting in the work. Still glad to see he's matured a bit.
I think Tate is a good guy, but I still see him transferring if RR remains the coach. At this point he's got to know that Denard and Devin are the future of a RR offense.
not an ounce of ill will to him for it.
I always figured Tate would stick around at least for the year, and it is nice to hear that he didn't let the demotion keep him down. I do think he expects to be given a shot at starting, but for some semblance of consistency I'm sure RR will keep Denard as the #1 unless Tate or Devin just blows him out of the water. It will be interesting to see how Tate feels after spring ball.