Has anyone heard anything? Caught this video online and it freaked me out.
fair point that
I think it is a carryover from last week's game and it looked like he landed hard on it again a couple of times today. Not sure how bad it is.
say it was a shoulder but doesn't appear to be separated.
I noticed that when I rewatched the 4th qtr again this morning. He was also wincing multiple times on the sideline before that incident.
Just curious, but where did u hear this? I actually heard that it was separated and that he would be out this week, but I'm very much hoping I'm wrong.
He definitely got injured. But that was before the TD pass. Word is that it's just a bruise and nothing serious. But I wouldn't expect him to be 100% next Sat
I just saw that on ESPN too. I noticed after he threw that TD pass in the 4th to Odoms that he couldn't lift his right arm. Kinda curious how he threw that ball on the money given how much pain he seemed to be in.
TWJ does what he wants.
It reminded me of Henne against Illinois and Sparty in '07.
He should be fine, probably feels worse today and may sit out in practice tomorrow just to heal it up. If his bruise was enough to have him sit out next week he wouldn't of went in for the last drive when we ran the clockout.
I would expect RR to allow as little info as possible out about this. This could make MSU prepare for two or even three QB's next week. I hope he uses a time-honored Southern tratidion, says a "whole lotta nothing," and doesn't even announce a starter until game time.
Yeah, they'll prepare for Sheridan with extra rest and a kegger on Friday night to celebrate.
Wouldn't they do this anyway?
and coach shrugged it off. There were accounts of Tate being in a sling after the game.
Brings back visions of Henne. I hope it's really just a bruise, and lets hope they don't hit a nerve shooting him up with pain meds making matters wores (like they did Henne).
Then again Henne beat Michigan State with his throwing arm dangling.
Forcier's a tough kid but he's not real big. Let's hope he can make it through the Big Ten season in one piece. No question he's the "guts and glue" of this team.
I honestly think there was a little bit of gamesmanship on UMs part on this one. If Tate really
jakked his shoulder up I don't think his td pass
to odoms would have been have been nearly as accurate. Maybe not though.
That was some grade A acting.
Adrenaline can do wonderful things.
I don't think Forcier is badly hurt, but I don't think he was faking it, either (except when he collapsed on the field, which he admitted was an attempt to give Denard a chance to warm up).
No way that was acting, the second video tells us that - he couldn't toss the football to the ref with that arm. He was overprotective or he was in too much pain. Either way - not good. I think he is likely more injured rather than less.
But, if we dont have Tate for MSU, we might be ok. It might even be a good thing. We need 2 qbs we can win with, and putting a whole game primarily in Denard's hands is what he needs. It might hurt us for the MSU game, hell it may even cost us the game, but it will only help us later in the season for more difficult tests. I don't feel too bad about a Denard/Sheriden combo for next week, leading to an improved Tate/Denard combo for the rest of the season.
If his arm was so bad that he couldn't lift his arm to give the ball to the ref, then he would have been seeking some serious medical attention. Not on the field, even if it was to take a knee.
Yeah, perhaps. I guess we will find out - and I do hope you are right.
This is the kind of thing we don't want to happen to Tate. I would like to know who the jerk was that hit him on the shoulder on the sidelines. Total dick move. It looked like Tate was pretty vocal about the fact that he was in pain, so I'm not sure why a player would go up and hit him on the shoulder. One the other hand, though, I think we'll be fine if Denard has to play. He can't throw as well as Tate, that's a given. Denard can throw fine and showed some solid passes against the Hoosiers. He also adds some serious speed. Denard's ball security just scares me a little. He fumbled another snap (probably mostly due to the worst center play I've ever seen(obviously he's new but seriously...)) and he also gave up a normal fumble.
Saying the guy "hit" him is a stretch. He patted him on the shoulder.
that went shooting past Denard was not a bad snap. It was belt high and a little the side, but Denard just missed it.
but Moosman was throwing bad snaps all game. Tate fumbled some along with Denard. Maybe one of Denard's drops was his fault, but you can't say it was the QB's fault all day.
While I shouldn't nitpick the winning TD pass, it was a little underthrown. It's quite possible that his shoulder injury affected the throw. We could be in for a long day if MSU cheats their safeties up.
i definitely noticed this as well. that sucker was nearly knocked away, when odoms had quite a bit of separation. i guess we'll find out, but we may be seeing the return of the suicidal kitten next week. DRob is not equipped yet to manage an entire game, no matter how fast he is.
Do we have the technology to fix it?
Tate Forcier, quarterback. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to build the world's first bionic man. Tate Forcier will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster.
No need for a bacta tank. A Jedi healing trance should do the trick.
This simply means it is Denard's time to shine. Throw a bomb first play next time Denard is in. If it hits, the safeties won't cheat up and it'll open up the offense.
Assuming he's okay to play, he may want to avoid going airborne for a while. While cool, those two leaps scared me. He might have aggravated his injury on the first.
I talked to him last night at the Fifth Quarter and he said he has a AC joint sprain and a big bruise. He said he injured himself like this before in high school and he couldn't throw until Friday of that week.
He was in obvious pain and wouldn't shake anyones hand with his right arm. We'll see, but its a little more serious than just a "bruise". That being said, he looked fine throwing the ball on that last TD pass to Odoms.
Thanks for sharing!
What can the athlete do?
* Rest and apply ice in the early stage
* Immobilise the shoulder in a sling to ease pain by taking the weight off the arm
* See a Sports Injury Specialist or Doctor
Should we add a fourth bullet point?
* Go out to the club!
We MUST immediately surround Tate with at least a dozen ice-bucket-bearing virgins to keep him tended properly until kickoff next Saturday.
ok and maybe the Doc can help too.
This was the one thing I didn't want to hear, that it was worse than we thought. Thanks for the heads up
The pass to Odoms may not offer much insight toward next week. Often, an athlete can still perform to some degree immediately after a sprain, before it becomes badly swollen. After it swells, it can be awhile before the athlete regains regular mobility.
Thanks for sharing. This is actually better than I thought. I had heard from someone else on the team that it was separated. Obviously this is less serious than that, and its better than the alternative.
Well as long as he kept off the mechanical bull...
I think we should start the game out with Forcier, if he is okay to play a little bit, and only throw some short bubble screen-type plays and some runs. Try to get the running game going.
After a series or two, bring in Denard. Try to keep the running game going and do some bubble screen-type plays with some regular pass plays thrown in.
Run the ball. Run the ball. Run the ball.
Try to keep Tate off the field as much as possible, but play him (if he's able) if we need him.
But the problem with that is that MSU's defense is most vulnerable in the secondary. Their front seven is about average, and might perform well against our revamped OL. It's their pass coverage that's bad. We have to challenge them downfield.
Looks like this offense is about to go into full Pat White - Mode with Denard at the helm. Thats ok, as long as it works :)
likes the taste of Dilithium.