A take on the Don Brown defensive philosophy from the Coaches Clinic, FWIW

Submitted by Hill Street Blue on

A simple set of concepts delivered through a dizzying number of packages and looks, all designed to do one basic thing. If you can confuse, disrupt, negate, and defeat the offensive blocking scheme (run or pass) fairly reliably with 5 guys at the LOS, well then, that's what he's going to do. Every time. Wants to impose the defense on the offense, not let it be the other way around.

Gratuitously obvious comment: Getting Peppers closer to the LOS in this scheme is going to make everybody happy.

Welcome any other's take on Brown's presentation from the Clinic, I'm no expert.

BluePhins

March 12th, 2016 at 10:48 AM ^

I love everything I hear about this guy. 

 

I guess I could look it up but I'd rather have someone more knowledgeable tell me: What is Don Brown's response to tempo? How have his defenses fared against the "Indiana's" of college football?

M-Dog

March 12th, 2016 at 11:09 AM ^

Hard to tell with BC.  Clemson put up 30+ on them last year (as they did on Alabama BTW).  

Do you consider teams like FSU tempo?  Not sure if I do.  BC shut them down, FWIW.

It's not like he's faced a slew of tempo teams to evaluate against.

It may be more instructive to see how he did at some of his earlier coaching stops. 

 

bluebyyou

March 12th, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^

Even with the best scheme on the planet, you still need the right personnel to run it effectively. Brown must be like a kid in a candystore when he sees some of the people he will be coaching at Michigan.  Clemson is a program with elite talent and coaching.

Mr.Msider

March 12th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^

I think that's why you move guys lik JPep closer to the LOS, to negate the outside speed of most of these "tempo" teams.. With the D line and the depth at D line it's going to be damn near impossible to just bulldoze us in the trenches so outside the Tackles is where teams will be looking for success but with athletes like Peppers at the 2nd level that's gonna be tough too

Wolfman

March 12th, 2016 at 3:54 PM ^

and I ran it at the high school level. Concept was the same. Regardless of pass or run, if you have more people in their backfield then they do, and you often will, regardless of whether he is going to hand off, keep it or run, you will mitigate their chances to do so just by sheer numbers and if he wishes to takes chances with the handoff under extreme heat, that's just fine as well. Difficult to do with out 100% condfidence in DEs, but if you have that, there is not a stunt in the word they will be able to defend if you are able to have then read key - ain't coming - hit the vacatated hole and Pray for a soft landing, Irene. If, on the other hand, receiver could be hitting your area, respect it and more than likely pressure will be brought to bear from opposite side. In OSU's case, I am certain much of it will be read off their strong side and which side of the ball the RB lines up on. Knowing this, you will know the QB's likely path should he keep it, and on their stretch plays, as OP said if defensive speed is there will be hard for them to gain advantage in numbers which most outside running plays are built on. Outbnmubering opponent at point of attack. What most defenders don't understand, but Brown does, is this can be realized by the defense as he states.

Every OLmen on this site is aware if there was a man lined up over him, unless pulling, he had to block him. Brown will have man move in order to pull OLman with him, thereby creating the vacancy for Peppers and others to come in and basically smash the qb or RB with good clean hit, nothing smelling salts won't cure.

Farnn

March 12th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^

Best counter to tempo is to never let them get going.  Like a 240lb RB, you hit them behind the line of scrimmage and they are much easier to stop.  Up tempo offenses have a philosophy very similar to Brown's for defense, impose their will on the opponent, get them uncomfortable and reacting instead of playing their game. 

 

Edit:  Just looked it up, and according to S&P tempo stats, the two fastest teams they played were Duke (15th), and Clemson (10th).  They gave up 34 to Clemson, but it appears they got beat by deep passes from far superior athletes.  Only 3.1 ypc and lots of 25+ yard completions.  Duke they held to 9 points with .9 ypc but Duke had a below average offense even though they were relatively high tempo. 

turtleboy

March 12th, 2016 at 11:43 AM ^

Depends on the tempo. Most teams that run tempo just hurry to the l.o.s. to prevent defensive substitutions, then stand around waiting for the play call based on the defensive alignment. Brown has typically shown flat or neutral looks to the offense, then waited for their play call to come in, and right before the qb claps the defense shifts and lines up tight. He still uses a lot of misdirection in his final lineup before the snap, as well. Blitzing guys will fall into coverage, press corners will blitz, linemen will stunt. Speed and execution are what set his defenses apart. They all seem to be very fast and very disciplined, so a speed offense looks pretty one dimensional by comparison.

ElBictors

March 12th, 2016 at 11:34 AM ^

I think of how teams negated the RichRod tempo and it was usually by having physically dominant defenses manhandle the O. And the flip side is that if the M Offense can play its game, the tempo Indianas of the conference (OSU light as I called them last season) will have to themselves maintain longer drives or their D will wear out

DonAZ

March 12th, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^

physically dominant defenses manhandle the O

And, boiled to its essence ... defensive penetation and disruption of the play before it can take shape.  True in college; true in the NFL.  The offensive counter is to get the ball out before the penetrating defensive player can disrupt the play (see Brady, Tom).

I think this is why dominant defensive linemen are so valued nowadays.  And why QBs that have quick releases are so valued.

JonnyHintz

March 12th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^

The problem there, is that Rich Rod recruited micro-athletes. Even when he recruited OL (which was rare), they were often undersized. Having athletes with any type of decent size was an issue under RR. So it was easy for our lines to be manhandled. Ohio State for example, runs a power spread. Sure, they'll spread the field on you. But they'll do so behind a team of 4/5* linemen at 310+ lbs and throw a 230 lb RB at you to boot. By the time you try to manhandle the line, the back has already run you over. Indiana is similar. Not as highly athletic, but they'll still spread you out and throw a 230 lb RB at you. To put it simply, there's a difference between Fitz/Vincent Smith running at you, and Elliot/Howard. So it was much easier to simply man handle RR's offenses than it is to manhandle the spreads of the Big Ten today. They may all be spreads by name, but they are vastly different.

LDNfan

March 12th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^

Yep...good points, unfortunately :(

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a defense that you can expect to have success against the power spread...esp. one with the type of talent OSU is churning out. Maybe success is really relative and its more a matter of slow them down and just outscore them. 

wolverinebutt

March 12th, 2016 at 12:04 PM ^

Don AZ nailed it.  I just gave ya an upvote, but we can't see it.  

Football is kind of a mismatch game.  The tall WR's,  the fast TE's to beat LB coverage,  the ninja slots, etc.  The NE Pat's use Gronk, quick slots & Brady gets it out as Don mentioned.    

M uses the FB & TE position for mismatchs.   

Goggles Paisano

March 12th, 2016 at 12:05 PM ^

From observing him at the IMG practice, Don Brown is one intense mofo on the practice field. He was getting after the players to do what they need to do in this defense.  It was cool to see him teach with that intensity.  Not sure how that compares to Durkin, but he is a guy that will command your attention and respect.  

Maizenblueball

March 12th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^

I love the idea of an aggressive Defense that attacks and makes the Offense react to what they're doing. Occasionally you'll get burned, but if you can rattle the QB early in a game, he'll be anxious and looking for the pass rush, even times when it's not there.

jabberwock

March 12th, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^

that he dosen't have time to break in a new partner, they all get killed anyway.  Just stay out of his way and he'll clean up these mean streets all by himself.

MgoWood

March 13th, 2016 at 12:28 PM ^

This is one of the biggest Freight Trains of enthusiasm and momentum I personally have felt well...since Harbs was named our coach. But before that I can't remember this much excitement!  I am on this TRAIN!!