There's going to be a line of witty comments to start out this thread. Can't wait.
T or F: MICHIGAN flag on the moon?
I'm still thinking...
If I recall correctly it was the Apollo 15 (all 3 astronauts had Michigan degrees), and it has never been confirmed or denied by the astronauts. It would certainly be possible for them to have placed a Michigan flag on the moon, but they haven't outright said that they have for some reason (I can't imagine they could get in trouble for it), so it remains Michigan legend. There's another rumor going around that they started a Michigan alumni chapter on the moon, which would make UM the only university with a chapter there (obviously).
Actually, only 2 had Michigan degrees. The third had only attended UM. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the third actually had only attended UM-Flint or UM-Dearborn. Still, all-blue crew.
Due to contamination risks they could get in trouble for placing a flag on the moon. It's the same reason NASA goes to great lengths to sterilize everything they send to Mars (for example). They want to prevent spreading microscopic life forms to other places where we might find them later and believe that we've found life on Mars or the Moon, when all we really found were the carcasses of Earthbound micro-organisms that WE LEFT THERE.
Never-the-less I've heard nothing but mixed reports about the flag, but the alumni chapter on the moon is definitely true. The Apollo landing craft carried two of the three astronauts down to the moon and appartly they decided to make that much official
I've definitely seen plenty of space-station or shuttle pictures with astronauts proudly flying Michigan flags though. So there's might be something to it...
The total lack of atmosphere means everything gets hard-radiation scrubbed. Nothing, even dormant state virii, survives there.
You are incorrect. There are various extremophiles that exists with the lack of "atmosphere" and heavy radiation. In fact various organism strive because of radiation. Some are not known to the public whatsoever.
Tardigrades are one of few known organism on Earth to survive the open space vacuum and solar radiation at once. Can survive being heated up to 424 Kelvin or chilled to 73 Kelvin. Has survived briefly over absolute zero.
Edit: Not saying living organism are presnt at the moment on the moon, just stating the fact that some organisms found on Earth has the possibilty of surviving in those harsh conditions.
Is that on a shirt? If so, where may I pick one up at?!?
That is awesome.
This is the same answer that I came up with when doing research for an RHA display some years ago. Somebody should tell the people that print the free day-planners (do they still do that?) to stop spreading falsehoods in their daily fun-facts.
You mean the university president doesn't start the campus's electricity supply each day by spinning the Cube?
Nope, but only because she takes the secret steam tunnel to work in the morning.
The steam tunnels aren't a myth.
No, but I'm pretty sure that the direct route from Fleming to the President's house (in case of student riots) is.
I remember when I was in UG ('98-'03), a couple of students somehow managed to sneak into the steam tunnels and got caught by DPS. There was a min-controversy over it because DPS was so pissed off by the incursion that they handcuffed the kids and treated them like felons before releasing them.
I've been in the steam tunnels. They connect almost every building on campus. The large concrete cylinders around campus that people post fliers on are the ventilation ducts, as the tunnels can get extreamly hot. But they are also a complete maize and students have almost died from dehydration after getting lost in them.
A disaster like that sure would leave their parents feeling blue.
I've been in them too (offically). Temps can reach 140 degrees in many places. It is not easy to find your way around.
As for the trip from the President's house to Fleming, it's not a totally straight line. It also passes by the Museum of Art where there's a litle more security. Oh yeah, I pass President Coleman on her way to work every few weeks. I have yet to see her spin the Cube.
Anybody who walks the fish and the cat at the same time isn't going to stay employed very long
and while he told us at the time that there is no Michigan flag on the moon, the all-Michigan Apollo crew did leave some kind of mark behind in honor of their alma mater. I think he provided some speculation as to "you are restricted in what you can take with you and bring back, but the stuff that's there can be moved around." (paraphrased)
Block M? Rock M.
That there was a UM flag there, but Dantonio is now extensively recruiting on the moon and had the flag replaced.
Him and his intergalatic recruiting, always has to one up us!
Are there weeds to lay in on the moon because he did say, "we're laying in the weeds."
I thought he only had exclusive rights to the dark side but was making headway in recruiting the light side.
That would explain the rash on the dark side of my moon.
I thought flag planting ended with the JLS era?
I did not know there was weeds on the moon. You learn something every day.
I seem to remember there was an interview a couple years ago with one of the astronauts on the crew and he debunked the myth. Someone could probably find a link for it.
I always questioned whether they'd really be allowed to do such a thing but regardless I'll continue perpetuating the myth. It's a sure way to draw the deserved attention to the overwhelming presence of UofM grads that have been there.
1) there is no M flag on the moon (1st hand sources)
2) there is an odd rock formation that someday when resolution gets good enough on Lunar imagers or another manned mission lands there, will be undeniably recognized as a certain letter of the alphabet... (1st hand sources)
3) there have been multiple M flags on the moon & outer space, that have returned with the crewman that brought it there. I have one of the orbiting flags from a mission I was involved with.
4) there is at least one classified satellite project I'm aware of that has a block M etched in the 6061 aluminum interior electronics box surface. Not telling which one or who did it. (cousin of my jeweler's niece who knew Sammy Davis Jr's hairstylist)
1st hand source.
Now that's the answer I was looking for (#2 there). It's better than a stupid flag. Rock formation. Kewl!!!!
It's really true -- you CAN find ANYTHING on MGOBLOG. Even w/o The_Knowledge.
for the flag. that would be a sweet piece to have.
when you pry it from my cold dead fingers... and even then, getting to my crypt to retrieve it is going to be like that South American tomb in Raiders of the Lost Ark
I've heard rumors go so far as to say that the flag atop the Michigan Union went to the moon.
"Touchdown! No flags!"
Seriously, for those of us who attended the College of Engineering's special alumni gatherings for Homecoming last October, we got to meet Al Worden, who was the Command Module Pilot on the Apollo 15 mission. Amazing guy.
We never went to the moon...
I wish the university would make an updated commercial, this time starring the Gemini 4 mission which also had an all-U of M crew and conducted the first American spacewalk. In fact, the Gemini 4 mission has a better claim to being an "all U of M crew", since both of the crew had actually earned Michigan degrees (Ed White, B.S.E. 1959 and James McDivitt, M.S.E. 1958), while the Apollo 15 crew were all U of M affiliated, but not are were technically alumni. Alfred Worden had an M.S.E. degree from Michigan ('63) as did James Irwin ('57), but David Scott only had an honorary U of M degree. However, he did attend Michigan as a freshman before transferring to West Point.
I am proud as hell that my alma mater can claim such great men as the 5 crewmen of Gemini 4 and Apollo 15. Space, bitches. Space.
I'm currently typing this comment from the moon, and yes, there is a flag. I'm looking right at it. 2pac is here as well, he can confirm, although he rarely posts on MGoBlog anymore.
Tell Elvis I liked his early work.
I bet when you rub one out on the moon you dont even need a sock!
During Orientation in the summer of 1988, our UofM sanctioned guide, who was a grad student at the time, told us group of new students that "There are two flags on the moon.....one is the US flag, the other is the University of Michigan flag" and then went on to say the astronauts were UofM aerospace grads.
Probably no flag.
But here's a tidbit that you can be proud of Michigan for, and that few know:
Raoul Wallenberg, one of the greatest humanitarians of all time, who risked his life in WW2 while a Swedish diplomat to save people from the Nazis, went to Michigan.
That's much better than a flag on the moon.
All these replies, and no one said, "Just ask Zoltan?"
I mean, who's going to tell the Space Emperor of Space that he can't put a Michigan flag on the moon?
Well, there might not be a Michigan flag on the moon, but there sure as hell are two Michigan flags on the Mars rover!
There is no flag. It's been debunked, just campus tour fodder.
The University of Michigan was also behind the funding of the Dharma Initiative, researching animals on a desolate island. Consequently, they were responsible for the crash of Oceanic flight 815.
Technically, funding for the DHARMA Initiative was provided by the Hanso Foundation, a group founded by Michigan graduate Alvar Hanso.