Super Football conference
I'm just going by the latest rumors, but when you consider who the top 7 winningest college football programs are....
1. Michigan: 877-304-38
2. Texas: 845-321-34
3. Notre Dame: 837-291-42
4. Nebraska: 837-341-41
5. Ohio State: 819-308-53
6. Alabama: 813-316-43
7. Penn State 812-351-43
8. Oklahoma: 796-305-53
9. Tennessee: 783-333-55
10. USC: 774-307-54
If the Big 10 somehow gets Nebraska, Texas and Notre Dame to join us, the Big 10 would have 6 of the 7 winningest programs in 1 conference. If Penn st can get 1 more win over Alabama, we have the top 6. I doubt this will happen, but suppose Oklahoma is asked to join us then that is 7 of top 8 in a single conference. It would be very hard for the SEC to top that, even if they marged the best teams from ACC, PAC 10 or Big East.
If the Big 10 focused on the top "football" teams, instead of worrying about getting any New York team, I think the conference would have a lot more prestige that every state in the nation would want the Big 10 channel as a basic sports(football) channel. If Notre Dame wants to remain an independent, then we can counter by adding a New York team for the money and break up the Big East. Texas folks may want to see Texas Tech and Baylor join the Pac 10, and see Texas A&M join the SEC, because it would mean that the 3 power conferences (Pac 16, Big 10/16, SEC) would all be located in a single state, thus can see each team visit in state. Dallas could probably host a championship game each year, rotating with the Big 3 conferences.
Texas politicians would be smart to try to split up the Texas schools and spread out to as many different conferences as possible with a realistic shot of a conference championship game being held in state. One argument is that both the Fiesta and Rose bowl is in original Pac 10 country, while Sugar and Orange is in original SEC country, so Texas should host a conference title game more often.
Exciting times are coming, that's for sure.
Well said. I wonder how the SEC revisionists would argue their conference is the greatest if the big 10 recruits that much pedigree in new member schools?
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I'm taking a guess here, but I think your average SEC fan would say something like "When was the last time <insert teams here> were any good?"
All time winning percentage is nice, but the top ten changes a lot if you shrink the window to the last decade or so.
That clip always gets me teary-eyed. *sniff*
My little girl just came over to look at the video because Coach Carr is her favorite character from the book "Let's Go Blue"...
"..they are together, loyal and unselfish.... " Words alot of current Michigan fans could/should take to heart with the current teams situation....
Nobody will argue with the conference we have if we get those teams. Knowing SEC fans though they would try to come back with a stupid comment or start chanting SEC or something.
Or...they could use these things called 'facts' to make a very good statement on how good the SEC is. They are a perfect 6-0 in the BCS National Championship Game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_National_Championship_Game#Records_by_…
I understand why most people around here hate the SEC, but holy crap, just about all of the recent data kinda points to the SEC being a really really really good conference.
I don't think anyone would dispute the SEC's current relevance; I still hate them.
I hope I never see the day Texas, or any other team on that list for that matter, surpass Michigan as the all time winningest program.
The SEC can say all they want about recent achievements, but if we add all the teams we want, who can the SEC add to make the conference an attractive one with 16 teams? USC is definetely out, so the only teams left would either be Notre Dame (fat chance), Texas (not really likely), and Oklahoma (a possibility) but Oklahoma wouldn't really fit as well in the SEC as they would in the Big 10, even minus the AAU status.
All the SEC can add are teams left over from the ACC like FSU and Miami, but those teams don't necessarily have the wow factor, plus wouldn't bring in any money because of already being in Florida. If the SEC added teams outside of its current region, they do not have much room to expand outward. Who knows, the SEC will try to get 24 teams, and have 4 6-team conferences.
Its kind of funny that people haven't talk much about the sooners to the Big Ten. I really believe that the focus is to get Texas into the fold, however if that does go down it seems logical that all eyes will turn to Norman. Truthfully once you get UT there is absolutely no reason not to go after their biggest rival.
I've written this a few times but for me the best schools to reach for are UT, OU, Neb, and then A & M if you have to take them. If you get those four in the fold, then you go to Notre Dame and say this is your only chance to part of this money machine while threatening the Big East if they don't kick out the Irish.
This thing looks like it is going to go down, like it or not. So as the lead post illustrates get the best that you can, and worry about the rest later.
What I don't get it why anyone things Texas would leave Oklahoma (whatever conference they are in)? If someone gave Michigan a ton of money, would we leave the rivalry with Ohio State? Texas/Oklahoma is just as big as Mich/OSU, so it would be really hard to just walk away.
but couldn't Oklahoma schedule Texas annually as a premier non conference game? This would be like M/ND; you can imagine that they would get a prime evening game on ABC or the like every September if they moved it back or later in the season if they want to maintain a later date. If this was the case then would a conference affiliation really matter?
They were playing each other for decades before the two of them were in the same conference.
Yes, it's definitely not a big deal to play OU-UT non-conference every year. The rivalry has really grown with more on the line being in the same division and all, but it's not a deal breaker.
Just a WAG but I'm wondering if the PAC 10 does end up becoming the PAC 16, if they invite 6 from the Big 12, will this be the "monumental change" that forces ND into the Big 10. Thoughts?