"Substitution with the Intent to Deceive"
Someone please explain it to me. 10 point swing right there in my opinion.
Go Blue.
Mod edit: Here's the rule. Link. JGB.
Unfair TacticsARTICLE 2. a. No player shall conceal the ball in or beneath his clothing or equipment or substitute any other article for the ball.
b. No simulated replacements or substitutions may be used to confuse opponents. No tactic associated with substitutes or the substitution process may be used to confuse opponents (Rule 3-5-2-e) (A.R. 9-2-2-I-V).
November 7th, 2015 at 5:45 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 5:46 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^
AMRHG - Angry Michigan Referee Hating God. I'm pretty sure the AIRBHG has started multi-tasking after seeing the officiating for our games this season.
November 7th, 2015 at 7:44 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^
Three guys came off the field. Three other guys came on. Then Jake Butt went away from the huddle out wide. Where is the intent to deceive?
November 7th, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^
If I were Harbaugh I'd be so pissed I'd try to throw 70 on them.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
My thoughts on Millen's assessment?
Probably shouldnt have let Millen explain it.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
...I stopped listening.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
If Rutgers isn't fooled.
That flag isn't thrown.
That shouldn't matter when calling a penalty.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:49 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 5:50 PM ^
A public ranking system for officials in the BTN...and if you're not over a certain threshold, then you can't work a game.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:50 PM ^
Still winning.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:52 PM ^
At it again.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:53 PM ^
Is his.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:53 PM ^
refs donuts every week.
November 8th, 2015 at 2:27 AM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 5:54 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 7:21 PM ^
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November 7th, 2015 at 5:54 PM ^
That's one tough man.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:55 PM ^
Because his eyes are always downfield.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:56 PM ^
big FU from Harbaugh to the world?
November 7th, 2015 at 5:58 PM ^
Right there with ya Coach.
November 7th, 2015 at 5:59 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 6:01 PM ^
Justice.
November 7th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^
Because we couldn't go for three.
November 7th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^
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November 7th, 2015 at 6:00 PM ^
Wrong thread. I'm an idiot.
November 7th, 2015 at 6:03 PM ^
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November 7th, 2015 at 6:04 PM ^
Butt was in the huddle. BTN had a good replay of it shortly after the call.
November 7th, 2015 at 6:05 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 6:13 PM ^
when I am served a Pepsi.
November 7th, 2015 at 7:07 PM ^
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November 7th, 2015 at 7:01 PM ^
I think Big Ten refs have this year, in general, sucked donkey balls. They have absolutely no clue what targeting is. I have no idea why they picked up the targeting flag against the Rutgers guy after he clocked the MIchigan guy head-to-head so hard that it looks like he gave HIMSELF a concussion.
But I think they got this one right. You can't sneak a receiver out wide along with a group of people subbing out of the game. Butt was too close to the other guys going out of the game. It is of course a judgement call, but I think he was close enough to the other guys going off the field that this was a legit call.
They actually wrote the rule to address this EXACT play.
November 7th, 2015 at 11:54 PM ^
with your analysis is that he WASN'T among the players subbing out. He wasn't close to the players subbing out. Hell, he didn't MOVE until the players who subbed out were off the field.
The video of the ACC game where they DIDN'T get called was far more obviously a penalty, and did NOT get called. They literally ran everybody off/everybody on in a huge group, and hid a guy on the sideline with a bunch of other guys standing just out of bounds. Michigan had NO one near Butt on the sideline.
It just wasn't a penalty. Thankfully, it doesn't really matter, except that it is, as JH says, offensively stupid.
Rob
November 7th, 2015 at 7:39 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 7:53 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 8:00 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 8:01 PM ^
If you send a tight end out as a wide receiver you are guilty of deceiving the other team - unless you are not Michigan. The other Big 10 rule is: If you are Michigan, we have to pick up any targeting flags - and forget about any other penalty that should have been called on that play - such as roughing the quarter back or a block in the back.
November 7th, 2015 at 8:19 PM ^
November 7th, 2015 at 8:24 PM ^
Technically, it was of course designed to confuse Rutgers and to catch them asleep at the wheel. In order for this to be a legal play Butt quite intentionally left a gap behind the substituted players, but of course he was close enough to them that a lazy mind would assume he gets substituted.
In other words, Michigan basically got punished for the fact that Rutgers was so entirely fooled by it which in turn *proved* that they were deceived.
I also think Butt lined up unnecessarily wide - if he had lined up just 5 yards further inside he would still have been uncovered and it may well not have been called.
November 7th, 2015 at 8:30 PM ^
that they may game plan not to cover players going wide if the refs are going to say it's a penalty when you blow coverage. He has a very good point.
November 7th, 2015 at 9:15 PM ^
B1G officiating cannot comprehend what is the football mind of Jim Harbaugh.
November 7th, 2015 at 8:45 PM ^
in the '97 game in East Lansing on us removed -- with a similar play out of a field goal attempt formation?! It was the first score of the game, and the only points MSU scored that day.
November 7th, 2015 at 8:59 PM ^
SB Nation has a writeup of it here.
A1 leaves the field of play during a down. Team A huddles with 10 players. Substitute A12 enters, and A2 simulates leaving the field but sets near the sideline for a "hide-out'' pass. RULING: Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot. This is a simulated replacement of a player to confuse opponents.
So the refs got that one right. I think it's a pretty dumb rule, but they got it right.
November 7th, 2015 at 9:08 PM ^
My biggest beef with the play is the referee did not throw the flag until the pass was *completed*. If this was an egregious substitution penalty, why wasn't the flag thrown at the snap? It was because the result of the play influenced the referee's decision to flag the play.