Stupid Question about Dave Brandon
Question:
What if Dave Brandon managed to land one of the Harbaughs at the end of the year? Would you still want him fired? Is this less likely to happen than us somehow winning out or only dropping one more game this season?
For the record, I don't think this happens, and I don't really care who the athletic director is because I have zero chance of ever influencing that decision.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:32 AM ^
College athletics is not about making money, nor wins and losses, it's about bettering the lives of the student athletes first, other students second, and alum/fans third.
Prior to the season, he had failed at the second two by trying to capture as much consumer surplus as possible (charge the most you possibly can, even if sales fall off, then offer discounts to cover the rest). It's unforgivable when you charge so much for the student tickets that students bail and you lose your future season ticket holders.
With concussion-gate, he proved that even the players are not coming first under his regime. While he did not make the immediate call to put Shane back on the field, he continues to fail horribly at the crisis management that followed.
I would still want Brandon gone if we had gone undefeated and won the national championship.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:33 AM ^
Just for one day, we didn't have any awful threads? Now that sounds impossible, but fun to dream about.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:33 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 9:34 AM ^
I truly hope so.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:39 AM ^
Dave Brandon better hope that one of the Harbaughs doesn't fire him...
October 7th, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
Honestly, would you feel this way if Michigan were 5 - 0?
Because, then the fans are excited, the athletes are heros, nobody cares about high ticket prices and the cost of bottles of water. Maybe people are unhappy about the possible moving of "The Game" and it actually would be a big game, since Michigan wouldn't suck at 5-0.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
This question wouldn't have even been asked. But we aren't, so it has.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^
This hypothetical is so last week. In that world, we would be 6-0 today, obviously
October 7th, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^
Whenever you have to come up with extremely unlikely hypotheticals to justify keeping a guy, that guy should probably be fired.
October 7th, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
It's unlikely that Brandon is fired as long as he has the support of the big donors. That's what I'm hearing.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
Then they need to donate enough money to keep him sidelined with his mouth shut.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^
What if monkeys come out my ass?
Do we just have a massive MGoAwareness problem? Why do these dipshit threads keep popping up? LEARN FROM HISTORY.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
Then you'd be a sterotypical Latin gang member from "Bruce Almighty."
I made sure that anyone who didn't want to be a part of this thread would know what they were getting when they clicked on this. And I truly am curious, if Dave Brandon had one of the Harbaugh's on the hook for 2015 and beyond, how would people deal with it?
October 7th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^
I'd thank him for his service to the university...then show him the door. Thanks for playing. This one 'atta-boy' does not make up for all the 'awww shits' we've had to endure as a fanbase.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:25 AM ^
Regardless of what the outcome of the season is or any moves he's responsible for during or immediately following the season, there's only one reasonable thing to happen to Brandon:
Let's not forget this isn't just about the football team itself. This is about about the questionable decisions he's made, how he's conducted himself, the way he's alienated the fans and turned the athletic department into a vessel that exists purely for profit. There is no redemption for all of the mistakes he's already made.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
I think DB should be fired because it's totally believable he would send insulting emails to the fanbase. If the FOIA requests come back showing he's actually done it as egregiously as reported, he's simply not fit for the job no matter who supports him or what coach he can hire.
Corporatism/profiteering is another disqualifying feature of DB, IMO, but the most serious issue is that he appears to be unable to accept responsibility in any substantial way for any problems that have occurred. Not only do they all have their own story, but that story certainly exonerates DB.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^
Stupid answer about Dave Brandon.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^
I'm a "data" guy, in part due to my academic and career background, but also because without it, I believe you're just another asshole with an opinion.
So, let's go find some data. I was inspired by the post that said "maybe you shouldn't have them practice this week...."
Eureka!
Let's create a metric called "Coaching Quality Ratio". It would really be simple. Brady can coach between now and the bye week. This season's W-L record established at that point will be the baseline. For the remainder of the season, he will be allowed no contact with the players or any of the other coaches.
The "Coaching Quality Ratio" (CQR) will be: (Total Wins)/(Games Coached).
If Brady Hoke's CQR is the same or less than the CQR for the remainder of the season, he's fired immediately without any further discussion.
If his CQR exceeds the value for the remainder of the season, then it's a data point that will be used in his overall evaluation.
/pulls-tongue-from-cheek
October 7th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^
So basically, you believe that almost everybody on the board is just another asshole with an opinion?
October 7th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^
Some assholes have objective data.
October 7th, 2014 at 10:57 AM ^
Who was responsible for putting Michigan State and Ohio home and away on the same years?
October 7th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^
Blame them.
October 7th, 2014 at 11:11 AM ^
October 7th, 2014 at 11:19 AM ^
Still would like to see a different AD at the helm regardless of hire. It's really hit me over the last few days that it's not only a lot of player talent that isn't getting realized.. it's coaches.
Criticize them all you want, what are the odds that we could have so many untalented coaches? They weren't hired for not knowing football. This has to go up to the top.
October 7th, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^
Admitted, I am being lax in my modding as I am in the first day of a three-day training (I think the board might be worn out on this topic for a while), but I'll bite here -
I think the culture of the athletic department needs to change for such a hire to even be a likelihood, and that culture eminates from Brandon. Even if he were to make sure a hire somehow, I don't know that that he can be effective in his position given the damage that has been done to confidence in the department. When you face students, alums, fans, donors, etc...who seriously doubt your department's ability to do the right thing in situations, how can you be effective? When that has been on public display on all media, who would want to deal with that? I imagine the list is short.
October 7th, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^
He is a douche bag and is destroying the game day experience, hiring a Harbaugh and retaining his position he would see as a referendum on turning every Saturday into the super bowl. He lies....he sucks....he goes.
October 7th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
The man has shown he's terrible at being the AD of Michigan.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^
Both Harbaughs are too intelligent and independent to ever work for David Brandon.
October 7th, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^
I'm definitely in the boat of him being gone no matter what. I honestly don't believe that he could ever get a Harbaugh to come here. Plus, he is ruining all things good about Michigan.