Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Stop the madness. Decide already.
It took you this long to come to this conclusion?
I just broke my screen.
what we really need is:
"THIS will teach the fleas a lesson!" or
"So that's what my head looks like without hair!" or
"G. I. Jane, Age 16"
Or my hair has an Argentinian accent, and I am going batshit insane.
Well, when I came home from school my head started to get really hot. So I drank some cold water, but it didn't do nothing. So I laid in the bathtub for a while, but then I realized that it was my hair that was making my head hot. So I went into my kitchen and I shaved it all off.
"I don't know how the crabs got all the way up there, but this should take care of it."
If you can't handle the CS, then get off the internets.
NOTHING IS WHAT THEY SAY IT IS!
THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
FIGURE OUT HOW TO EMBED VIDEO!
I have problems with that too, care to explain if it pisses you off so much.
Just reply with detailed instructions
Copy and paste the code from the specific youtube video page. On the right of the screen, under the user info, there is typically 2 boxes. URL and Embed. If you click in the Embed text box all the text should highlight. Just copy paste that here and it will work.
You have to switch the reply to plain text editor then paste the embed code. Then preview to make sure it works.
Holy fuck it's Jens Lehmann. How do you feel about your less than worthy replacements, Almunia and Fabianski?
for the Sczscznsczzcsny era.
Although Fabianski actually has been perfectly serviceable over the last few months.
maybe City will give you Given.
some of the Dzeko money? Fine with me. Take Toure back too.
Dude with all the drama Toure and Adebayor are causing it's pretty clear why your skeletal Frenchman let them leave. I'm personally devastated as watching them raise Arsene's blood pressure during the time they were there warmed my Spurs fan heart. Still you're better off without a Man City castoff.
Les Miles had sex with her too, by the way.
But did they perform a Gruden?
What if he doesn't want the job?
Hire him anyway and force him to pay a buyout when he doesn't show up. I'm pretty sure that is legal... Wait, whats that? Yep, definitely legal.
Les wants the "job" from Powder. He's mad you know - that albino magic can only help...
OHH SUSAN POWTER? Well the albino part still stands. So does the job....actually all of it is still true.
I liked it better when people couldn't post new threads.
Or write about the benefits of hiring Eric Mangini. Which, to me, has been the lowpoint of this forever seeming four day search.
I bet it's down to Les Miles or Brent Venables.
About that guy: why is it that Muschamp gets wisked away and Venebles is still an assistant? Is one that much better than the other?
I don't know, but I wish we'd moved on Muschamp when we had the chance.
If he is interested to the point that he will take the job you do what it takes to make the deal. That was the point of the thread.
...patience my young padawan....DB will deliver.
It's obvious that William Clay Brandon planned on firing RR after the OSU game. Apparently, he not only thought he had a tacit agreement with Harbaugh, but he also thought that, like Val-pack or Domino's, he could just waltz in, throw his weight around, and hire someone in ten minutes if he wanted to.
Unfortunately, he apparently didn't realize that the job at Michigan has to be posted for a week before he can hire anyone. Consequently, he can't announce anything until Tuesday or Wednesday, and Michigan looks stupid and indecisive during a crucial recruiting week.
That's why, though I really want a spread guy, I really wouldn't mind if it turned out to be someone very charismatic and extremely media-savvy like Chucky, because we really need a miracle-worker to come in and undo the damage that Brandon has done, both to this recruiting class and to Michigan's image.
Whoever it is, though, he can't start until Tuesday or Wednesday, whichever is seven days from when the job was officially posted.
If you can't handle the CS, get off the internets.
play in the CS?
If the new coach couldn't start until Tuesday or Wednesday due to the posting requirement, then the week is built in and nothing could be finalized. The dead period precludes any hiring. You just said it yourself. So how can we look indecisive or stupid for the delay when a coach couldn't be hired by law as you claim?
On Harbaugh, it is pretty common knowledge that we offered him double what we paid Rich and top 10 money nationally. Brandon did nothing wrong. He wanted to go pro.
Actually, the job wasn't posted until Friday.
I've heard many people claim there's a state law on this, but I'm skeptical as I've never seen a link to this in writing. In fact, the other day I posted a link to a U-M HR document that clearly states that U-M has a seven-day posting policy but that it's possible to apply for a "posting waiver" in certain circumstances. See my post here.
You are correct. The excerpt you posted is also correct in stating that postings require a 7 calendar day minimum posting time. However, there is a waiver process that can be used when a job needs to be filled in a timely manner that the 7 days might impact. The entire policy is here: http://spg.umich.edu/pdf/201.22.pdf
Bottom line. If they wanna do something tomorrow (or for that matter yesterday), they can.
Well, we'll just explain that to a bunch of 17 year old kids. "Sorry we couldn't have a coach in place before you could early enroll. You see, there's this posting law. And we're almost enough days in to it that we can.....hello? hello? Mr. Frost? Mr. Lyons?"
We look indecisive and stupid no matter what the law is.
Facts get lost in whatever the popular sentiment spin is. Anyone who watched the RR witchhunt unfold knows that.
I have nothing to combat that kind of wit.
It's been four fucking days people. You want Brandon to hire Hoke? Then, yeah, we should have moved on this already. You want Brandon to do his due dilligence and make the appropriate calls? Then be quiet and let the man do his fucking job.
We don't have a coach? Fuck.
When did this happen?
Vince Lombardi would be just fine, thank you.
I'd prefer someone who can fix the defense.
Chris Balas said the groundwork for a deal is already done.
They're close to making it official.
Chris Balas and Rivals have proven that they know fuck all.
+1 for the proper use of "fuck all" and not "fuckall". Yes I looked it up.
... and he's a Michigan Man that everyone loves!
Announced via Twitter:
"On the plane headed to ann arbor for the coaching job at Michigan!! Thanks for welcoming me back ann arbor fans!! I knew I was coming back! "
Our new coach is none other than .... Brandon Graham! (http://twitter.com/BGraham54)
This must be on the level because it was on the Internet and the Michigan coaching search is far too serious a matter for anyone to joke about.
Where is The Knowledge when we need him?
WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!
Have I mentioned lately that I hate kids?
Decide Brandon, before people get outrageous and further poison the waters
a while ago
even remotely the best choice available? Very little college experience; proponent of a completely outdated variant of the pro-style offense, which would almost certainly cause Denard to leave; and his Super Bowl was won by Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin's defense.
I'd put him near the bottom of my list.
qualify as great distraction FWIW. SNL.
Seen them live in Tampa. Great show.
Miles: 62-17 at LSU. Not too shabby. I for one, wouldn't mind seeing that record for the next six years
(disclaimer: this has nothing to do with this post)
I am playing NCAA football with Michigan vs Nebraska in the Big Ten championship 2012, and I just picked it off to seal the deal! I can't wait to watch us beat down Nebraska next year.
Michigan and Nebraska are in the same division, so Michigan could only play PSU, Ohio St, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin or Purdue for the Big 10 championship. :) And..the question is...is it moral to play NCAA football especially when we have no coach!! No coach, who will teach the players the right path in life??? :)
Until Michigan has its coach birds will continue to fall from the sky. Davey Brandon, the blood of those turtle doves in Italy is on your hands. Hoke, Gruden, Monkey Man Simmons from down at the arcade, I don't give a shit, just choose.
I will take the other dude from the movie "King of Kong" any day of the week over Billy. The other guy broke the world record while his kid was yelling about having a poopy butt. That's focus.
I'm pretty sure the other guy is Steve Wiebe.
DB definitely is going with the wait until the last possible second and make us all happy approach. Or nobody has a clue who our coach will be...
Gotta believe he wants to make an announcement during the game on Monday night.
That would make total sense to keep the spotlight on Michigan.
Maybe all of this Brady Hoke stuff is a smokescreen.
I also wonder if Ross gave him a blank check with the express directive of getting someone splashy.
Is this the inflection point? Are things trending up from here on out?
I hope that was sarcasm. Real great move on losing three guys at the Army All-American game…Genius.
Oh, the old underpromise and over deliver CEO trick! The market analysts will love it.....but will MGoBlog?
stop the madness! start the movie!
Everyone who says Gruden repeatedly should close their mgoblog account and open up one at ndnation.com. You'll fit in just fine with the wackos over there.
But I can't believe how many people think he would be a bad hire. He won a Super Bowl. This isn't college football where you could make a case for the argument "someone else getting his players", it's the NFL, someone else almost always gets the players (a GM). It also isn't a case where there is a huge talent discrepancy amongst teams like in college football. He still coached a team to a Super Bowl! He was also highly successful in Oakland, where no one else has been successful to his degree in a long, long time. He's extremely smart, he knows more about football than probably 99% of college football coaches, has learned from and worked with many great coaches, and many great schemes.
Recruits would want to play for someone who understood the pro game even half as well as Gruden does, or for any Super Bowl winning coach. He has an extremely strong passion for the game and loves to continue learning about the game, so his schemes and ideas will not go stale. The connections he has would be great for the Michigan players who wish to make it at the next level and would be great for them at Michigan, as he could bring in a strong coaching staff.
The only worry I would have is him essentially dumbing down some things, which Weis struggled with (sometimes expecting college level talent to play like pro level talent). But I think Gruden is smarter than Weis and understands college kids' ability better.
Also, the Weis/Gruden comparison doesn't work. Gruden has had success being a head coach in multiple places. Weis had success as an OC in one place. Weis could very well still be a great OC at Florida (as he proved to be solid in KC this season), maybe he's just not a HC.
Again, I don't think we are getting Gruden, but saying he would be a bad hire is idiotic. The fact that he would be such a great hire is what makes it unrealistic. But to those that think he would be a bad hire, carry on with your preemptive bitter ways and how he is going to "spurn" us or whatever.
I don't know who you're talking about, but I was an RR supporter who thinks all the Gruden talk is ridiculous.
To think that the NFL doesn't matter at all to these recruits is stupid. It does. The difference is that that argument was being made with respect to people picking a school based on scheme, saying they wouldn't go to Michigan because RR ran a spread verse another school that ran pro-style. Recruits still decided to go elsewhere because they didn't want to play in a spread, but that isn't the argument for Gruden.
The argument for Gruden being a great recruiter for kids with NFL aspirations is because he coached in the NFL. It has nothing to do with the scheme he will run. Heck, Gruden admittingly loves the spread, maybe he would even run that, I don't know. But, regardless, what would make him special wouldn't be scheme, but where he has been, who he has coached, so on and so forth, etc. etc.
For the record, I never agreed with the RR system won't matter at all to recruits. It obviously did, though I think the meme that recruits won't play in a spread offense to be vastly overblown.
Two people can be successful with two different styles. Chip Kelly wins with a zone read spread (plus) full of non-NFL caliber players. Alabama wins with a statue QB and NFL-caliber running backs.
5'9" LaMichael James ISN'T going to be a 1st round pick in the NFL. He IS going to finish in the top 3 in the Heisman, and he probably enjoyed that sales pitch on a recruiting level.
"Recruits would want to play for someone who understood the pro game even half as well as Gruden does,..."
Substititute "Charlie Weis" for "Gruden" and you capture what was said about Notre Dame football a million times just a couple of years ago.
for full recruiting years, per Rivals:
And look at the recruits Weis got. Say what you will about Weis, he got talent to ND. I know people tend to disregard recruiting sites around here, but they still mean something, and before Weis came to town, ND had the #40 class. After, ND had #8, #8, and #2 according to Rivals. I'd also like to draw your attention to Pete Carroll and how he recruited (go ahead and make the Southern Cali and cheating arguments here, he recruited extremely well regardless).
I also said why the comparing Gruden and Weis didn't work. Weis was never the head coach of a super bowl winning team, Gruden was. Gruden knows how to be a successful head coach, Weis didn't. Super Bowl winning head coach has a lot more strength than Super Bowl winning OC. If you don't agree, look at the number of Super Bowl winning OCs you can name compared to Head Coaches.
Gruden knows how to be a sucessful head coach. In the NFL. Where he was a coach. Which isn't college. I bet the guy could do just fine in the NFL again, but Michigan isn't a job where we should be question marking the candidate.
Also, Weis recruited well and made awful coaching decisions. Would you like that? Or should we pay players like Carroll? I don't really know what to make of the top of your post.
And don't call me Jesus. /Leslie Nielsen.
Ex-NFL people with big names tend to recruit well. That's it.
And yes, Weis made bad coaching decisions, that doesn't mean Gruden would. And no, I wouldn't like Michigan's coach to make bad coaching decisions or pay players. I don't think Gruden would either. The point is that he had the talent there to succeed, same with Carroll, that's the only point I was making there.
And yes, I know Gruden was successful as a head coach in the NFL, the point is, at some time, he was still a successful head coach. Meaning he ran the operation, he got other coaches in place, so on and so forth.
And name me a candidate we won't be "question marking". Every candidate has question marks, Gruden just happens to have far fewer than most.
I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.
Listen, I don't think Gruden is the worst hire in the world. I don't think he is akin to hiring Tim Brewster. But his connections to the college game are minimal at best.
Does he know how to recruit? Just because the guy can flash a super bowl ring doesn't mean he actually enjoys the process. Pelini is said to hate the process according to some Nebraska fans.
Can he handle a locker room full of kids? These aren't paid NFL players, they're 18 - 22 year olds, some of whom have never played outside of their home state, let alone been away from their parents that long.
Does he get the college game? I'm not pretending to get either college or the NFL from a coach's perspective, but we at least hear that they are different animals. How different? I have no idea.
Hoke and Miles may have questions marks, but they've been HCs in college. That seems like one of the most important factors.
I just think that all other candidates have just as many, if not more, questions. I also think this is something that DB would at least have an idea of how Gruden would handle these situations after an interview.
For the record again, I don't think Gruden is coming. My number two choice would be Charlie Strong. I also don't think he is a probable candidate, but for other reasons.
but Michigan isn't a job where we should be question marking the candidate.
The only candidate who checked all the boxes was Harbaugh and that ship sailed.
The madness reflects our Athletic Dept. arrogance. We knew Lloyd Carr was retiring any year yet we had no succession plan. Now the AD CEO DB fires the president but has no succession plan and is willing to unprotect 25 % of the team (recruits) but we are MICHIGAN, mention MICHIGAN and they will come. Pure Arrogance. We have learned nothing from our neighbors from South Bend. DB can be a great marketer ( Big Chill/ ND night) but has a operational CEO the jury is out. Better find coach that unites the base or be careful what you ask because you will get it every 3/4 years.
Recruits are absolutely not a part of the team until they step on campus.
Women's BBall? The fuck?
DB make the choice.We have to find the right coach.I don't want to have any more losing seasons.
Simple but poignant. Probably the best comment I've seen on this board since this all began.
Thesis: DB demonstrated an amazlng lack of compentecy in this process.
1. DB should have recognized the need for a coaching change by the Illini game. For UofM to allow Iilini to put up 65 displays all the evidence needed that nothing has changed, and, in fact, the pendulum is still swing to the negative.
2. DB stated he will evaluate the entire year to make a decision. Excuse me, but I agree with voices that state that having to wait for 1 game, out of c. 30, to make a decision shows you have the wrong guy. 1 game does not change materially change the record of 3 years.
3.Here is the most important piece. DC should have used trusted intermediaries to seek out Miles, Gruden, Harbaugh, etc. to inquire re the Michigan job. These sorts of conversations occur all the time in corporations re potential mergers. No specific conversations just "what would you do if Michigan came calling? would that interest you? what's your pros and cons?". But no, someone had the arrogance to assume that we could get anyone we want.
4. To proffer "Let Brandon take his time to make a decision". I would agree IF we did not have (1) a Big 10 Off player of the year nervously wondering who wil control his destiny for the next 2 years (2) a recruiting class that is imploding (3) a defense that is in shambles and needs a complete revamp (4) a need to get top-flight defensive talent now in this recruiting class.
For all the reasons above, particularly point 3, Brandon failed. And as I have stated before, competency in one area of life does NOT translate to other jobs or environments.
Which ex-NFL coaches have come to college and demonstrated success at that level?
I can think of one: Pete Carroll.
He was also forced to vacate 15 wins and a national championship.
While his background and that fact are not related, it shows that the argument for NFL coaches doing well in college is extremely weak. Bill Callahan and Dave Wannstadt are the most typical examples.
Is that what we really want?
Nick Saban? Depends on your criteria, but yeah.
Saban did move back and forth, that's true. But he had loads more experience in college than the pros when MSU hired him. I don't put him in the same category as Gruden, for that reason.
I don't mean to say there's no chance Gruden could be successful, I just don't see what evidence suggests he would be.
Jon Gruden is not a good choice if the criteria is someone who's going to stick it our for the long haul. Do NFL coaches even think in those terms?
Okay...heres the deal....I'd rather have Gruden than Miles but I miss RR...Gruden because he would oddveiously atract kids because they would want the NFL experince, and he a hard nose type with great moxie, Miles is okay cause he knows the College game, and he's has expericne in the "Mich" tradition....bottom line get some body in the place now!!!! we pay money for alumni, get yur asses in gear!!!!
rush a decision? Bite me.