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Stoops out at Arizona. Would Rich Rod fit?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7086070/arizona-wildcats-...

 

Mike Stoops has been let go by Arizona after 7.5 years for a buyout that should be around $1.4 Mil. The Wildcats started 1-5 with there only win against Northern Arizona then lost 5 straight.

 

As a side plot... would RIch Rod be a fit in the pac-10? I think his offense with the right DC could be electrifying out there. I think I would be rooting for him. 

 

Edit: Wow clearly meant Mike

Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:56 AM | I wish RR well and all, but I (Score:5 Normal)
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I wish RR well and all, but I don't see why every job opening should automatically come with a stated desire (and accompanying thread) that he be considered.

And it's Mike Stoops, not Bob.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 AM | It'd be kind of fun to say, (Score:-1 Redundant)
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"Yeah, he's a great coach. But he's not the best. Only the best are worthy of Michigan. Now, quiet. Hoke's 11th National Championship ring made his pointing powers even stronger. He might point at us and make us explode."

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:00 AM | Dunno (Score:2 Normal)
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about AZ in particular, but that seems like the right caliber of program for RR to go to; a middling team in a good conference that he can get some slack at and mold the program around his own vision.

He's a great offensive mind (see: spread offense, Denard at QB) and it would be a shame not to see him on sidelines again sometime soon.

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:59 AM | I don't think he's an (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't think he's an "Arizona Man", doesn't have the intangibles neccessary to Bear Down and would probably give away Tedy Bruschi's jersey to some scout teamer. 

The swag is back. 

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:03 AM | My bad... Ignore this comment (Score:2 Offtopic)
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My bad... Ignore this comment

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:02 AM | His offense with a good DC would (Score:5 Normal)
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make a great team anywhere.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:10 AM | No offense to Arizona, but he (Score:3 Normal)
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No offense to Arizona, but he should just wait until UCLA or Clemson opens up. They are two programs that should be good almost without trying, yet their coaches seem to grasp failure from the claws of success year after year after year. He could be a perennial BCS coach with those two programs. With AZ, I'm not sure.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:21 AM | Clemson (Score:1)
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is off the board for at least this year and next; Dabo is way too popular and winning right now.

UCLA is intriguing, but I feel that they'll probably try to get an up-and-comer rather than another controversial coach with a mixed track record after the Neuheisel experience.

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October 11th, 2011 at 7:56 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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UCLA already has his quarterback there in Brett Hundley and lots of little, speedy receivers as well as a fan base begging for something new. I think he'd do VERY well there and it doesn't look like Clemsons opening up any time soon. Of course because it makes sense it will never happen.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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October 11th, 2011 at 8:35 AM | hmmmmmm.... (Score:4 Normal)
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I wonder if RichRod is just a little too Midwest folksy for LA; I am completely unsure if his schtick couldn't play in AA then how do people expect it to work in Los Angeles?

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October 11th, 2011 at 9:08 AM | UCLA's fans are used to (Score:2 Normal)
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UCLA's fans are used to prolonged, miserable failure on the football field. Michigan fans were coming off of a season, one year removed from the Game of the Century, in which we beat the mythical Tebow beast in a bowl game. Whereas we could afford to nitpick the coach's personality, I think UCLA fans would cream their pants just to have the chance to get excited about a guy like Rich Rod. Besides, LA loves novelty, right?

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October 11th, 2011 at 11:41 AM | UCLA hasn't done much in the (Score:1)
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UCLA hasn't done much in the last few seasons, but they have a proud football tradition of their own.  In the 1990s, they dominated USC head-to-head.  They have pretty high expectations. 

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:03 PM | Historically (Score:1)
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I recognize that they have tradition, but that doesn't change the fact that they've had one season with more than eight wins and zero conference titles since 1998. They gave Neuheisel a chance, so why not Rich Rod?

ETA: Yes, I know that Neuheisel played at UCLA.

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:27 PM | The only reason Neuheisel got (Score:1)
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The only reason Neuheisel got that job was because he went there.  They've been badly underperforming for awhile now and their fans aren't happy.  I can't blame them.  It's UCLA - great school in a fantastic location, with plenty of local talent.  Their only real downside is facilities (the Rose Bowl is a good drive away from campus).

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October 11th, 2011 at 9:32 AM | Footballs version (Score:1)
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RR would be like footballs version of Jim Herrick (sp?). Could accomplish things on the field, but the UCLA faithful would be harder on him the M fans were.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:13 PM | Harrick had hmmmmmm......... (Score:1)
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Harrick had hmmmmmm......... ethics problems, as was born out by his tenure at Georgia and was the reason he got fired at UCLA, there was a triggering incident but the trail had already been established.  Far as we know RR's clean and while UCLA does have some cultural issues I think the need to turn the program around may finally get them to hire someone outside of the Donahue family tree(sound familiar?) 

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

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October 11th, 2011 at 6:53 PM | Ethics.. (Score:1)
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Just to clarify..I'm not in any way comparing ethics..just cultural differences between so Cal style and RRs style. I know a lot of UCLA folks who had a problem with Harrick before the ethical stuff became apparent..he just wasnt slick enough. Just got thinking about how fun it would be to have RR at a program like UCLA, like I thought it would be fun (and a good choice) to have him at M..then I realized the importance of the cultural fit. I hope he find his home at a place where he will be embraced and not harassed from day one by half of the fan base.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:13 AM | Just out of curiosity, (Score:1)
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Just out of curiosity, besides UCLA, what other BCS schools have coaches on a hot seat that Leach or Rich might be interested in? I really hope to see both of them on a sideline somewhere soon.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:19 AM | Boston College, Kentucky, (Score:2)
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Boston College, Kentucky, Arizona, and New Mexico are all possibilities, with New Mexico and Arizona already open. 

Those who stay will be champions!

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | What about USC? (Score:1)
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I know that Kiffin hasn't had the chance to win yet, but I feel like he has another 2, maybe 3, years. OF course, that's assuming Rodriguez wants to wait that long. Or maybe Stanford, after Luck leaves. South Carolina. I feel like Arizona is the only viable option from above. What about IU, Purdue, or Minnesota?  

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:50 AM | I would be the happiest man (Score:4 Funny)
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I would be the happiest man in the world if Danny Hope got fired and they hired Rich Rodriguez at Purdue. I think Hope's head would explode.

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October 11th, 2011 at 7:46 AM | Please No (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't ever want Michigan to play against a RR team.  

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October 11th, 2011 at 9:11 AM | That would be some Level 5 (Score:3 Normal)
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That would be some Level 5 Snake Oil right there.

LSA, Class of 2009

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:26 AM | Ncst (Score:2)
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Goodbye Russell wilson!

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:25 AM | I could envision (Score:1)
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Spurrier hangin it up at South Carolina after this year.

 

I think Houston Nutt is on shakey ground at Ole Miss.   Since going 9-4 in 2009, Ole Miss is 6-11 including a loss to Jacksonville State and the wins include powerhouse programs Fresno State twice,  Tulane, Louisiana-Lafayett, Southern Illinois and a terrible Kentucky program.  Ole Miss will be fortunate to win 2 more games this year, which would mean another 4-8 season.

 

Joker Phillips at Kentucky seems to be running that program into the ground.  He's only been there 2 years but he's running them off it cliff it seems.

 

Ohio State might be looking for a new coach (lolz)

 

Heck the Minnesota job might open up for all we know.

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October 11th, 2011 at 10:28 AM | Look to the South (Score:3 Insightful)
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I bet RR would like to end up in the south.  He'd be close to his preferred recruiting areas and his accent and personality would fit right in.  I think he could win anywhere with a decent DC, but the south would be the best fit.  Clemson would have been perfect for him if Dabo wouldn't have came out firing on all cylinders.

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October 11th, 2011 at 10:29 AM | Well, the school might not be interested but (Score:0 Overrated)
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there's always Ohio State

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:14 AM | Stoops went (Score:1 Normal)
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1-10 in his last 11 games at Arizona, it was bound to happen.  Since 98 Arizona has been a pretty mediocre program and the two 8-5 years recently under Stoops were their best since 98.  At this point last year AZ was a program on the rise, 5-1 after back-to-back bowl seasons.  Things changed fast didn't they.

 

I can't see RR being offered that job,   he was great in a terrible conference at WVU, the Pac 12 is not a terrible conference. 

 

 

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:15 PM | Actually, he did quite well (Score:2 Normal)
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Actually, he did quite well when Miami (who, at the time, was always in the national championship talk), Boston College, and VaTech were in the conference. Just because he started to win 10 and 11 games after they left doesn't mean he didn't hold his own when those 3 were still there. He actually had more conference titles than BC and VaTech combined when they were there and he was coaching at West Virginia. I dont see why he couldn't challenge USC and Oregon at the top of the Pac 12 (of course he would need a competent DC).

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:25 AM | Meh (Score:3 Normal)
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An east or southeast school would be ideal, given his existing recruiting ties - particularly in Florida.  While UCLA would be the ideal type of school for him to land, from a geographical standpoint working in Los Angeles (or in Arizona) would neuter one of his natural recruiting advantages.

I haven't looked through all of the potential openings, but Ole Miss seems like it would be a potential fit.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:27 AM | It depends.  Rich Rod was (Score:1)
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It depends. 

Rich Rod was making $1 million at WVU, then $2.5 million at Michigan. He'd have to take a pay cut if he wants the job, most likely. The Wlldcats were paying Stoops $1.5 million per year. So he's got to look at that and decide. Furthermore, there seem to be many job openings, so I think Rich Rod can afford to sit, wait, and find the right fit.

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October 11th, 2011 at 9:57 AM | It wouldn't really be a pay (Score:3 Normal)
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It wouldn't really be a pay cut because he is no longer making $2.5 million.  He got the buyout and now he makes what he gets from CBS.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:27 AM | According to many here, RR is (Score:0 Normal)
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According to many here, RR is going to get the job at Clemson next year and win the national championship just to rub it in our faces. So he won't be available.

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:18 PM | Yeah! Let's fire RichRod (Score:1 Normal)
BigBlue02
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Yeah! Let's fire RichRod again just so he knows how much we hate him!

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:53 PM | Are you related to Rich?  I (Score:1 Normal)
dahblue
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Are you related to Rich?  I can't think of any other reason you'd be so defensive.

If folks want to keep brining up RR as the next possible coach for every possible job opening, that there might be some reminders about his past job performance.  Or, even more to the point, there might be reminders that, just a couple months ago, the RR armada on Mgoblog was measuring the drapes for his new office at Clemson.  The RR armada tends to wrong about a lot.

RR is gone.  He isn't even mentioned in the link.  Why continue the drama?  By the way, we're undefeated.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | The fact that you make up a (Score:0 Flamebait)
BigBlue02
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The fact that you make up a name like the RR armada for those of us who have the gall to support an ex-coach tells me everything I need to know about you. I also expect you never to talk about any former coach again

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:30 AM | FSU post-Fisher? (Score:1 Normal)
MichiganTeacher
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If FSU keeps underachieving with Jimbo, I could see RR sliding into that spot. Though it's probably two more seasons before Fisher is out of Tallahassee, so RR might get something before then. Not that he cares about my opinion, but I think he should take a job as an OC somewhere.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:34 AM | I highly doubt schools like (Score:2 Normal)
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I highly doubt schools like FSU will take a chance on RR. He's either going to have to go be an OC somewhere, or wait for a HC position in the BE, or if he's lucky, the ACC someday.

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October 11th, 2011 at 5:16 AM | Ya they'd really have to (Score:3 Normal)
IPFW_Wolverines
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Ya they'd really have to "take a chance" on a guy who has won a BCS bowl...

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

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October 11th, 2011 at 11:15 AM | After not being too (Score:2 Normal)
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After not being too successful here, kinda yeah. FSU could go after coaches who have had more recent success if Jimbo doesn't work out-like the guy from Clemson or Dana Holgerson, if they're still doing a good job.

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October 11th, 2011 at 11:43 AM | How many guys who've won BCS bowls (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Then got fired got other high profile jobs? Guess if they make a change at Georgia FSU can hire their coach and Rich can take the Georgia job. BCS winner second chances!

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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October 11th, 2011 at 11:45 AM | This is a "What have you done (Score:2 Normal)
jmblue
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This is a "What have you done for me lately" kind of business.  There are a lot of guys out there who were once successful and now have dropped off the map.  Where are Larry Coker and Frank Solich these days?

That RR won a BCS bowl six years ago is not that relevant anymore now that his most recent stint was disastrous.  A top-tier program (and FSU qualifies) is very unlikely to hire him now.  An middling program might, but even they might be gunshy.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:36 AM | I heard RichRod (Score:2 Normal)
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I heard RichRod might take the Ohio State job.

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October 11th, 2011 at 11:22 AM | RR 2 Tennessee (Score:0)
BlueCheez
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With Derek Dooley supposedly already on the hot seat, maybe Tennessee would be a really good fit.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:40 AM | I think his offense with the (Score:1 Normal)
BlueGoM
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I think his offense with the right DC could be electrifying out there. 

 right DC

Yeah that seems to be the tricky bit....

 

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:42 AM | Guy just came off a 15-22 record at the winningest program in (Score:4 Normal)
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CFB history, I doubt many fanbases and AD's at top level programs are clamoring for that hire right now.

 

CUSA would be the best fit for him, especially Tulane.

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October 11th, 2011 at 10:33 AM | True, but.... (Score:2)
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It's easy for an AD to dismiss RR as a candidate.  The problem is who are you going to hire?  There will be more openings than good candidates, which is why most retreads always get another chance, i.e. the Ron Zooks of the world. 

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October 11th, 2011 at 12:12 PM | I wouldn't necessarily say (Score:1)
jmblue
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I wouldn't necessarily say there's a shortage of candidates.  It's just that a lot of ADs are gunshy about hiring a promising coordinator or lower-tier program coach.  It's a gamble to hire an unproven guy, but the payoff is often greater than with a retread.

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October 11th, 2011 at 1:52 AM | What about Ohio State? That's (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Gorgeous Borges
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What about Ohio State? That's going to open up soon. That would make for some interesting rivalry games for sure.

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October 11th, 2011 at 2:04 AM | He wouldn't be a good fit in (Score:1)
PrideandHokeinTX
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He wouldn't be a good fit in the Pac-12, he needs to stay on the east coast so he can rehire his previous staff and continue to recruit Florida. The ultimate job for him would be a Central Florida or South Florida, not that either will be coming open anytime soon.

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