i have to admit
No kidding...
I remember going to NFL.com to check out the player card because I said to myself "surely thats not our Stevie Brown".
Reporter: “Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?”
Shaquille O’Neill: “I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to.”
A little surprised? What
A little surprised? What would it take for you to be really surprised?
I mean if anybody saw this coming they sure as hell didnt post it here. But he is yet another example of just how inept our defensive coaching was here during that time.
I saw it coming all along.
By which I mean I never saw it happening in a million years.
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i only
Get really surprised during recruiting where I assume all prospects have Michigan in front. When they don't pick Michigan, I become really surprised which, in turn, causes me to become startled and outraged.
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Is he listed at "Spur" or
Is he listed at "Spur" or "Bandit"?
That's a just a fantastic
That's a just a fantastic story for him! What a year he's having.
Touchdown Michigan!
Wish the coaches at the time
Wish the coaches at the time could've optimized him to his full potential while at Michigan, but thats good for him! Glad to hear another Michigan Man doing well in the pros
He was actually pretty good
He was actually pretty good as a senior. His usage prior to that was suboptimal, but nothing like what poor Kenny Demens was subjected to.
I
I couldn't agree more. He was great as a senior and made our biggest play against OSU that year.
WHY?
Can we please go one day with taking unnecessary potshots of this nature?
It's really no different than whining about how Lloyd Carr didn't optimize Tom Brady to win four national championships, and no less asinine.
No excuses. Play like a champion.
You are correct
If Llyod Carr hadn't changed Brady's position to left tackle for his senior year, he might have been drafted higher.
Fear the GERG:
Fear the GERG:
Why does this keep happening?
Why does everybody keep pretending like Stevie Brown was some terrible player here? He was really good as a senior after making the linebacker switch, and would have had another solid year if his redshirt hadn't been wasted.
Basically he struggled playing safety as a true sophomore when seeing the field for the first time, like probably a lot of guys would/do.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
I am not saying he was a bad
I am not saying he was a bad player as a senior. I am saying he never reached his full potential here at Michigan, which is true.
But you're casting blame
Acting like one coaching staff playing an underclassman or another that actually got good results out of a player are to blame for the guy not being awesome is just unfair. Especially when the "he's awesome" is kind of based on a run of forcing turnovers that probably isn't sustainable for any player.
The extra year is also huge. If David Harris had graduated in four years (without ever making an all-conference team) and had the NFL career he's had (actually super awesome for an extended period of time) people would be bitching about his coaching/development here at MIchigan like crazy but it wouldn't be any more fair. On the flip side, BWC or even a guy like Gabe Watson or Mike Martin look a whole lot better as college players with another year.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
Another reason could simply
Another reason could simply be the NFL being more "old school" football. Sure, better players but you don't play the kind of offenses you do in college. I will admit multiple UM staffs/coaches hurt a players potential/development because I know some kids were flat out put in poor positions over the years. Yet, as long as the physical tools are there, the NFL usually, eventually, can show that certain players we thought were terrible were just hindered by the college play style or coaching. I think more than coaching, Brown had issues against the spread based on what I saw. Decision making seemed to be an issue on top of potential and then absolute horrid coaching.
Are we not jumping the gun here?
I wish Stevie Brown all the best and hope he continues to preform at a high level. With that being said is one unexpected phenomenal season enough evidence to criticize how he was utilized here at Michigan?
It just amazes me that
It just amazes me that basically in my lifetime so far, the former Michigan safety to have the best NFL career is Stevie Brown. STEVIE EFFING BROWN. Is there one who has been better (who wasn't converted to linebacker) in the last 20 years? Is there someone I'm forgetting?
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
I agree with you, but the
I agree with you, but the year Stevie has had so far has been pretty good so far. It would have been nice to have had some Thorpe winners, though.
Agree with the concept, but I
Agree with the concept, but I think Cato June and Marlin Jackson would both qualify as Michigan safeties (as much as Brown, at least) and each has won a Super Bowl as a starter.
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Stevie Brown looked like a
Stevie Brown looked like a beast when he first came to Michigan. He had a solid senior season, but he made a number of great plays on special teams early on during his Michigan career. He also seems like an overall good guy. I'm glad to see him putting together this kind of season.
A pass rush does wonders for
A pass rush does wonders for the back 7 and the Giants have one of the best.
Well-Deserved Too...
Some of Stevie Brown's stats in 13 games this year:
- 61 tackles total (51 plus 10 assisted)
- 2 forced fumbles and 2 recovered fumbles for nine yards
- seven INTs for 256 yards, with a long of 70 yards and an average of 37 yards per INT.
- 8 defended passes
That's an incredible jump after his stops in Oakland and Indianapolis.
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Why do some folks consider it
Why do some folks consider it illegal to analyze player development under previous coaching regimes, whether it be Lloyd or Rich Rod? It's all relevant to me and I think that is a representative viewpoint. It's fair game.
In my view, coaching failed Stevie Brown in his tine at Michigan, aside from his senior year. It's pretty clear that NFL coaching and playing style has helped him grow as a player. We are allowed to debate it.
Denied by UM multiple times, nonetheless lifelong M fan.
It is good to see a GERG
It is good to see a GERG protege have some success on the field. ;) JK. Stevie was always a very good athlete...IMO he just got caught up in some uneven coaching changes in his career. Had he been on today's UM roster, he would more than likely be starting next to Kovacs. Ive watched him play several times for the Giants....it is no fluke...he literally is all over the field making plays. Its great to see.
I picked him up in my fantasy
I picked him up in my fantasy team last week and he made me win the game. ONTO the playoffs I go all thanks to one....Stevie Brown.
SMFB
SMFB
Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.
I am a little surprised by this level of NFL success for brown. Good for him.
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