Stauskas interview and pros/cons of player decisions

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Nik gave an interview today on Toronto-based 590 AM's "Tim and Sid Show", talking about his upcoming decision. The relevant part of the interview to Michigan fans is:

"I've been told by many people college is the best time of your life," he said. "With the team that we could possibly have coming back, just imagine the amount of fun I could have with those guys staying in school. That weighs heavy on you. At the same time, you look at the other side of things, playing in the NBA, a dream that I've always had and you look at the lifestyle you're going to live, you look at the money you're going to make, you look at the opportunities you'll be able to provide for yourself and your family, those are all things that weigh heavy on my mind. That's why it's become such a hard decision because there's so many pros and cons to each decision."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigten/2014/04/04/university…

I think we're all still in agreement even after this quote that he's at least 90% likely to leave, and maybe he should be. But I think it's kind of interesting to look at all of the different reasons why he should or should not go. I think it's more complex than people make it out to be. These are all relevant to Michigan fans over the next week or so, as many of these same scenarios are true for both Glenn and Mitch as they also make their decisions.

Why he/they should go pro:

- First and foremost, the possibility of injury. This could range anywhere from a short term injury that maybe throws his game off for a little while, to a season ending injury that would drop his draft stock quite a bit, or even an (extremely unlikely) career ending injury. This is a very real risk, as we saw firsthand with Mitch this season.

- Extra year of salary from the NBA. No matter how good you are in the NBA, there's a very limited amount of years that you're going to be able to make money off of playing basketball. You could argue that it's extremely important for kids to leave as soon as they have a good draft spot locked up to make sure that they aren't missing out on a year of salary.

- Possibility of lowering your draft stock by staying an extra year. We saw this happen with Glenn this past season. If you don't perform as well as you are expected to for most of the season, you start to slip a little in the prospect rankings. This also gives NBA scouts an extra year of tape to pick apart. I think that this reason is sort of neutralized in this particular situation however, with the thought that the 2014 draft is very deep and the 2015 draft probably not as deep.

- Possibility of experiencing immediate team success in the NBA. This is a small reason, but I guess Glenn and Mitch could be looking at their predicted draft positions (possibly end of the first round) and realizing that these are some of the best teams in the NBA and teams most likely to win championships early. However, they probably wouldn't be making much of an impact on these teams, and I seriously doubt this is a big factor at all in the decisions.

Why he/they should stay:

- The possibility of an absolutely awesome year next season, all the way around. From the probable team success, the possibilities of winning championship(s), and just having another year enjoying the college atmosphere, there's no doubt that it would be an unbelievable experience for all three of them if everything went right. Once in a lifetime type chance. I think we can all quickly imagine how crazy next year could potentially be for everyone.

- Improve your game/skills. Some people might say that you might not be able to improve your draft stock much more than it already is (especially Nik). This might be true, but all three of them definitely have PLENTY of room to improve upon in various aspects of their games, even if it doesn't necessarily translate to their draft stocks. There's always room to improve for college players... heck, there's always room to improve for even most of the best NBA players to improve. This would presumably help them be more able to hit the ground running when they eventually do get drafted and start playing.

- The possibility of improving your draft stock. This is obviously apparent for Glenn and Mitch, and would probably be a big part of the reason why they would come back if they choose to do so. But I think Nik could also easily improve his draft stock by staying, as well. It's looking like he's going to go somewhere around the 15 spot in this year's draft. If he came back, he would immediately become one of the frontrunners, if not THEE frontrunner, for National Player of the Year. I think it's unlikely that he'd ever go top 5, but I could definitely see him sliding somewhere around the 5-10 spots if he stayed, especially in a probably weaker draft than this year's. McDermott sure improved his stock this past year, based a lot upon the publicity of being probably the best offensive player in college basketball and being the Wooden Award winner.

- The possibility of actually making more money in the long run by staying. I think it's a common assumption that you will always make more money in the NBA the faster you go pro. This is definitely not always the case. Let's look at Glenn for example. Right now he's projected to go somewhere in the early 2nd round, with the possibility of making his way into the late first round with solid workouts. Let's put him at the #30 spot in this year's draft. According to the rookie pay scale (which can be found here (http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm), by the end of Glenn's 3rd year in the league, he would have made $2,857,200. Now let's imagine Glenn staying next season, and improving his draft stock. In a weaker draft, I can easily see Glenn playing his way into the 15-20 range. Let's put him at #17 in the 2015 draft. After Glenn's first TWO seasons in the league (which remember, is the same time period as if he would have came out this year and played three years in the league), his total made salary would be $2,953,400. This is even more money than he would have made with the extra year in the league. You can also make the case that if Glenn came back to school for an extra year, he would be in a better position to succeed in the NBA, potentially giving him much better contracts after his first deal is up. Let's do the same exercise with Nik. Let's put him in the #15 spot in this season's draft, and the #7 spot in next year's draft. His total salary after his first three years in the league in the first scenario would be $4,847,000. His total salary after his first TWO years in the league in the second scenario would be $5,286,700. Again, you see more money in the second scenario, and also the better chance for future success in the NBA.

 

As you can see, it's quite the complicated decision. I think injuries really are the biggest factor here. If you could absolutely guarantee these guys that they wouldn't get injured, then the decision probably shifts towards coming back to school. Unfortunately, you can't do that. It's going to be interesting to see what these guys decide in the coming weeks. 

Wolverine91

April 4th, 2014 at 10:26 PM ^

This is a tough decision for him. I love Stauskas but I think he should and will enter the draft. It's too much for him to pass, although I would love to be proven wrong lol. If he does leave tho, I think it could possibly not be as big of a blow as some may think. Assuming Glenn and Mitch come back, I think this team will be heavy favorites next year to win it all. Zak Irvin, I believe, will be much improved and could slide perfectly into the Stauskas role, but could be even better, wishful thinkin. But for real, with better ball handling, he can be really good. So the big thing is that if Nik leaves, it's a little more manageable as opposed to the other 2 leaving.

Rodriguesqe

April 4th, 2014 at 10:49 PM ^

i hate seeing kids stick around for great reasons and have their draft stock get hurt and have them regret it. the stars are alligned, i cant imagine his stock getting higher, stauskus should go.

JamieH

April 5th, 2014 at 2:32 AM ^

Even a Michigan degree is not as valuable as the millions of guaranteed dollars that a 1st round NBA selection will get you.  Stauskas could easily pay his way to come back and finish his degree many times over from what he will earn on his rookie contract if he gets picked in the first round.   I've earned over a million dollars off of my Michigan degree in my career, but even the 18th pick in the 1st round earns $2 million guaranteed in just 2 years.  That is life-altering money if you invest it properly. 

Michigan4Life

April 5th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^

at Michigan.  He doesn't need to get it right away, but with millions of dollars he'll earn in the NBA.  He can afford it. 

Look at some of the former athlete(not just at Michigan) who came back and got their degree during their professional career or after their career is over.  It's always there for them in the future.  How often do you get the opportunity to earn millions of dollars playing sports? Not very often so I am in the opinion of taking advantage of earning that money asap.

Marley Nowell

April 4th, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^

He has got to go. I understand ppl saying he should stay to get his degree but nothing would prevent him from doing that in the future. The increased incremental improvements he can make to his game can be achieved on an NBA roster while earning a nice paycheck.

reanimator

April 4th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^

Nik should go. A 10 deep rotation would be absurd and someone would get squeezed out. UM has a ton of talent and it's time for some of the other guys to shine. 

UMinSF

April 5th, 2014 at 12:08 AM ^

IMO, Nik still has plenty of room for improvement.  He is a poor defensive player, his lateral movement and his handle need work, and his lack of strength would really be exposed in the NBA.

If goes pro, he could be stuck in a come off the bench and bomb 3's from the corner role.  

Beilein and company are proven developers of guards, and with his strong work ethic, Nik could improve as much next year as he did this year.  He could become a high draft pick and serious contributor right away - a lethal scorer in the Klay Thompson mold. 

With his current liabilities, I'm not sure he'd be given the chance.  I absolutely feel he can help his NBA future by staying another year.

I don't think it's a given that his game would improve as much sitting on the bench in the NBA.  Greatly depends on the situation/team/coach he ends up with.

Conversely, THJ's example hints that Beilein, his coaches and system are less proficient at developing bigger guys.  He doesn't have a track record of developing front court players (or swingmen) into NBA-level talent.

THJ made a giant leap this year, and his college career resembled GR3's - obvious talent, loads of potential, not much year-to-year improvement. GR3 seems like an NBA player stuck in college - he won't truly thrive until he's in the show.

As for Mitch,  it's all about his back.  If he feels (and his doctors confirm) that he's completely healed, he can dramatically improve his stock by actually playing a full year in college.  Really, his stock can only move up as long as he actually plays.  I doubt he'd get any guaranteed money if he goes pro now.

That said, if his back is still balky, he might as well go pro and make as much as he can, as fast as he can.  

 

reanimator

April 5th, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^

Nik has nothing to gain by coming back. He will improve against pros. Anyone claiming he will be a spotup shooter is being  delusional. His handle and strength? I guess NBA teams don't have state of the art training facilities and trainers? He is a Marco Belinelli type and will carve out a nice career.

Irvin didn't come here to sit on the bench til his junior year. Donnal didn't redshirt to play no minutes.Horford didn't come back for a 5th year not to play. Chatman is too great of a talent. 

Nik is a late lottery pick and should go. UM has more than enough to lose him and not skip a beat and I actually surmise that they will be better defensively and rebound the ball better next year while maintaining top 5 Kenpom efficiency.  

vablue

April 5th, 2014 at 6:18 AM ^

He has a lot to gain by staying in terms of getting better and putting his game in position to have a long career. I would agree that he is unlikely to improve his draft stock, though it certainly is possible. Better players have gone to the NBA and been done in 2 years. The NBA is not great at developing or teaching players, so you have to be ready to play and develop your own game.

It's a tough decision for him I am sure, and certainly would be hard to blame him for going either way. But I certainly would not say he has nothing to gain by staying.

MGoBender

April 5th, 2014 at 7:54 AM ^

It's not really a tough decision. You said it yourself. He can't improve his draft position. He can't improve his game anymore at michigan than in the summer league and 4 months of professional practice.

ISOLATED EXAMPLE: JJ Redick is finishing up year 8 of an NBA career. Redick was more of a "just a shooter" and only shot 40% from three.
Stauskas would be insane to come back.

uminks

April 5th, 2014 at 3:04 AM ^

Nick is ready.

GRIII probably will not improve much next season and may risk injury.

Mitch's back problems will probably cause him not to risk one more season in college and get in the pro game young.

Wolvie3758

April 5th, 2014 at 7:42 AM ^

for everyone...Can you imagine the team we would have next year if all came back!!!

 

Do it for Coach JB!!!! Do it for MICHIGAN!!!!!! The Team The Team The Team....

 

One can dream cant one?

MGoBender

April 5th, 2014 at 8:24 AM ^

Just one last point:

GR3 came back with the expectation that he'd play the 3 this year.  Playing the 4 meant playing out of position, all year which certainly had an impact on his produciton.  And even though the reason he wasn't able to play the 3 (MM injury) was benign, he still may feel slighted that he came back with that expectation and didn't get it.

mGrowOld

April 5th, 2014 at 9:44 AM ^

My opinion is the following will happen and why:

Nik - Goes pro.  We would hard-pressed to improve his draft stock and just watched GRIII and Mitch's take a hit by staying.

Mitch - Depends on if he can get his back 100% healthy by draft workouts.  Ordinarily I'd say he's coming back but Mitch is a bit long in the tooth already and another year in college wont help that problem any.  The NBA loves youth, almost more than anything else, so Mitch is racing his biological clock (so to speak).  But if he cant get his back to 100% by the time workout's start he's probably coming back because he wouldnt be able to demonstrate he's healthy otherwise.

GRIII - All depends on McGary IMO.  If he goes, GRIII goes.  If he comes back, GRIII will come back.  I had never thougth about him playing out of position all year until recently and that was one of the biggest reasons he didnt develop as everyone thought he would.  With Mitch coming back we can move to the 3, play the position he'll play in the NBA.  If Mitch goes then he's back to the 4, playing out of position another year and probably continuing to hurt his draft stock - not help it.

Selfishly I guess I hope Mitch's back heals 100%.  About five minutes after the deadline for declaring the NBA draft.  Because if he's 100% before then I think all three are gone.

Sweet Life

April 5th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^

Great analysis of the pros and cons of staying.  What I appreciate the most is that the OP doesn't presume to tell Nik, Glenn, and Mitch what is best for them.  This is a really complicated, very personal decision.  I am dismayed when I read comments that speculate on college athletes personal financial circumstances (e.g., "Glenn's father was an NBA star so he doesn't need the money") or that imply that leaving is disloyal - largely because it would disappoint fans.  None of us can put ourselves in their shoes and they don't owe us anything.

As a fan, I have really enjoyed watching all three of them. I would love to be able to see them play for Michigan for couple more years, but I respect whatever decisions they make, and will follow their future athletic careers wherever they end up. And whatever they decide, I am optimistic about next season.

Dustinlo

April 5th, 2014 at 11:05 AM ^

Good analysis. Only problem with GRIII's analysis is he would've made the latter higher dollar amount if he would have left last year. Hope he stays around.

champswest

April 5th, 2014 at 11:24 AM ^

value system, especially if we are no longer in our early twenties. We can't really tell someone else what they should do, only what we would do. And even then, since none of us had their talent or opportunities, how do we even know what we would have done in their position? I would like to think (in the case of Trey and Nik, especially), I would have returned for at least my third year in hopes of one day seeing my #3 or #11 hanging in Crisler some day. I am going to make my NBA millions sooner or later, most likely, but I only have one shot at my Michigan legacy. I wonder what Jalen would have to say on this subject.

JamieH

April 5th, 2014 at 12:03 PM ^

It's not about "value systems" or "priorities".  It's about taking the opportunities life gives you.  You have to strike with the iron is hot.  Burke was National POY.  It was time to go when his stock was high.  Stauskas is Big Ten POY. His stock is high.  Time to sell.  This is HIS time.   Could his stock go up?  Maybe, but probably not much higher.   He already has a legacy at Michigan.  Having financial security for life (assuming he is smart with his money) is something that shouldn't be trifled with.  I love Michigan and Michigan basketball as much as any fan, but if I were a player and I was told I was going in the top 20 or so picks, I know I would have to go.  That's just the way it is.

champswest

April 5th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^

You disagree that it isn't about values or priorities and then you impose what you think that Nik should do based on YOUR priorities or what YOU think Nik's priorities should be. I don't presume to tell any of them what they should do since I don't know what things they value most. I only pointed out what I THINK I would do in their position if it was my future.

JamieH

April 5th, 2014 at 3:48 PM ^

"Priorities" or "value systems".  I call it common sense.  If someone is offering him millions of dollars guaranteed right now, then he should most likely take it.  There is NO GUARANTEE they will still be offering it to him next year.   Does Trey Burke somehow have less of a legacy at Michigan because he went pro after his sophomore year?  I kind of doubt it.   That is just how the game works now.  

Bigku22

April 5th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^

The argument for Nik to stay is this years draft is LOADED. If he stays and maintains or improves his level of performance he would be looking at top 10, maybe top 5 next year. He has no shot at that in this years draft.

JamieH

April 5th, 2014 at 3:28 PM ^

what are the odds of him being top 5 or 10 next year really?  Nik is great, but IMO I don't think he's ever going to be more than an #10-#20 type player.  And that is NO insult--#10-#20 is still a great accomplishment.  Obviously I could be wrong.

Mweasel

April 5th, 2014 at 6:28 PM ^

it all comes down to how much he likes his current Wolverine girlfriend...i.e. how good she is in bed  **edit I'm hearing she's not a wolverine