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Is Stauskas A Better Shooter Than Rice?

  I grew up in Flint and followed Rice throughout his high school and college career, but this kid can shoot.  I didn't think I'd ever see a better college stroke than Glen.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:34 PM | It's way too early to make a (Score:5 Normal)
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It's way too early to make a statement like that.  Rice shot over 50% from 3 for an entire season and is still the all-time leading scorer in the NCAA Tournament.

http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/baskmen/baskmaa/riceaa.htm

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:35 PM | Do you know the difference (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Do you know the difference between a question and a statement?

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:39 PM | Yes, I do.  And it's (Score:5 Normal)
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Yes, I do.  And it's impossible to answer your question without making a statement.  You're asking us to state that he either is, or isn't, a better shooter than Glen Rice.

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:40 PM | I didn't make a statement, (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I didn't make a statement, nor did I say he was better than Rice, now did I?

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:47 PM | No, you didn't.  But you (Score:5 Normal)
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No, you didn't.  But you asked a question that forced us to make a statement one way or the other - and we can't.   It's too early.

 

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:59 PM | Must....not....make.....state (Score:-1 Normal)
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Must....not....make.....statement........Yes, he's better!  Damn you Maznblu.  Damn you!

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:26 PM | Why are your opinions ok, but (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Why are your opinions ok, but you down vote anyone who disagrees with you. Thats how my three year old handles things.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:28 PM | I didn't downvote (or upvote (Score:3 Normal)
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I didn't downvote (or upvote for that matter) anyone in this thread.

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December 1st, 2012 at 11:36 PM | Your three year old is posting here? (Score:3 Normal)
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That would explain some things.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:10 PM |   It’s a simple question in (Score:-1 Trolling)
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It’s a simple question in order to spark decent conversation. We are very excited about this freshmen and this team. I say if you don’t like the question don’t comment.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:14 PM | That's all it was blue, no (Score:-1 Trolling)
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That's all it was blue, no one said he was better than Glen, no one said he was a better shooter, scorer, 3 point shooter, ect.  Some guys have trouble reading.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:10 PM | I have little trouble reading. (Score:5 Normal)
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You first post attacked someone for making a very reasonable point. Although his meaning was quite clear, it's obvious that you didn't understand his post then and you still don't.

Eating is murder.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:22 PM | I have no problem with the (Score:5 Normal)
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I have no problem with the question.  (If you notice, I'm not one of the people who downvoted the OP, nor did I even downvote any of his replies.)  I just feel it's hard to answer.  Why does this bother the OP?

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:56 PM | Because you are failing to (Score:5 Normal)
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Because you are failing to follow the basic rules of sports commentary:

1.  Make as many premature evaluations as you can.  The smaller the sample size, the better.

2. If a narrative is compelling, use it.  Obvious lack of empirical support should be ignored.

3. Hyperbole must always trump objectivity, even if you represent a major sports network.

4. If a mediocre white college player displays good effort, he shall be compared to a professional white athlete with similar size but far superior skill and athleticism.

5. Being loud and obnoxious is good.  Being loud and obnoxious while talking about Tim Tebow is better.

Sources:  Skip Bayless, Drew Sharp, RCBM, Mike Valenti, Stephen A. Smith, Bucknuts, Colin Cowherd, and Jim Rome.

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December 4th, 2012 at 8:26 AM | epic retort sir. Some posts (Score:1)
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epic retort sir. Some posts deserve 6 votes.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:27 PM | Too early, but Nik's really, really smooth (Score:3 Normal)
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Rice was ridiculous. Set the NCAA tourney record, which still stands. 

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:28 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
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When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:11 PM | or.. (Score:5 Normal)
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mgoconclusions

Trust me, I'm a scientist.

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December 2nd, 2012 at 1:56 AM | Good Lord (Score:1)
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Good Lord this is amazing!

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:29 PM | Too soon to tell... (Score:4 Normal)
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Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:29 PM | Ask (Score:2 Normal)
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after the NCAA tourney.

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:34 PM | Wait a few years (Score:3 Normal)
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But Michigan looks to have one heck of a shooter that, I believe, is going to do some GREAT things.

If Stauskas goes 85% beyond the arc and is the key to helping mich win the tourney this year then Ill agree with you that he's better than rice. :p

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December 4th, 2012 at 8:26 AM | I will give it to him even at (Score:2 Normal)
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I will give it to him even at 82.5%. Damn you are demanding.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:33 PM | Nik can shoot the lights out (Score:3 Normal)
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for sure, but Rice did it for 4 years and did amazing things in big moments.

Let's just enjoy Stauskas as a great player/shooter in his own right and not put pressure on him by comparing him to the most prolific single tourney scorer ever.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:39 PM | We won't know... (Score:5 Normal)
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We won't know for sure until Stauskas allegedly bangs Sarah Palin. 

/no politics. 

Strive to win. If you lose....win. 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:24 PM | SKEET SKEET SKEET (Score:5 Normal)
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SKEET SKEET SKEET

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:41 PM | He is one hell of a shooter (Score:1)
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He is one hell of a shooter but he has not really been tested in high stress environments like Rice was.  If he can hit clutch jumpers in late March/Early April then I'll think about it but right now lets just leave it at he is an outstanding shooter.

Lloyd Brady is my homeboy...for real he is!

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:44 PM | This is definitely a (Score:5 Normal)
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This is definitely a premature question, but it'll be difficult to ever make a one-to-one comparison of their three-point shooting ability because the NCAA three-point line was at 19 feet, 9 inches when Rice played, and it's now at 20 feet, 9 inches.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:55 PM | The other thing is that the (Score:5 Normal)
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The other thing is that the 3-point shot was only added to the NCAA in Rice's sophomore season, so he didn't grow up shooting 3's like players now do.  In fact, he even played inside frequently when he was an underclassman (and was one of the league's best rebounders one year).  He made a remarkable transition to becoming a primarily perimeter player by the time he was a senior.

It's going to be apples and oranges.  If Stauskas can come even close to matching Rice's production he'll have one heck of a career.

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:01 PM | apples orange juice and rice (Score:4 Normal)
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apples orange juice and rice

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Great points (Score:2)
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so he didn't grow up shooting 3's like players now do.

Yes—it's highly unlikely Rice took as many outside shots growing up as Stauskas claims he did:

“Shooting is what I do,” Stauskas said. “I’m comfortable with it. I’ve probably taken a million shots in my life. That’s pretty much all I did when I was a kid, just go outside and shoot.”

(from this Daily article)

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:55 PM | and . . . (Score:2)
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and Stauskas sometimes shoots them from 23 feet 9 inches

Big gulps huh? Alright! Well, see ya later.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:46 PM | No (Score:2 Normal)
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See 1989 tournament performance

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:47 PM | 6 or so games....remember (Score:2 Normal)
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6 or so games....remember that

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:49 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:19 PM | Ok, but which one is better? (Score:1)
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Ok, but which one is better?

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 PM | We all know the answer (Score:4 Normal)
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Only one of those things ever had a funky bunch

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:49 PM | After comparing their (Score:5 Normal)
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After comparing their careers, I would have to say yes.  Stauskas is a better shooter.

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December 1st, 2012 at 7:49 PM | Right now he's a better shooter than reggie miller (Score:4 Funny)
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but sample size. 

Tremendous!

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:08 PM | No. (Score:1)
Bill in Birmingham
Joined: 08/30/2008
MGoPoints: 2875

No.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:08 PM | Well he is certainly off to a (Score:2)
wolver767
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Joined: 05/16/2011
MGoPoints: 316

Well he is certainly off to a great start, but has a long way to go to be mentioned with Rice.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:13 PM | He's off to a fantastic (Score:4 Normal)
jmblue
Joined: 11/07/2008
MGoPoints: 28972

He's off to a fantastic start, but I've been burned from the Gavin Groninger experience never to  again hype up a shooter too much.

 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:17 PM | Best shooter in the history of basketball (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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Joined: 08/16/2009
MGoPoints: 1486

They're retiring his jersey tomorrow. 

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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December 4th, 2012 at 8:28 AM | if you extrapolate his 6 game (Score:1)
alum96
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Joined: 04/28/2012
MGoPoints: 330

if you extrapolate his 6 game career over a 4 year... err 3 years... err 2 years... err the rest of this season before he goes pro.... 

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:18 PM | Canadians make great shooters (Score:3 Normal)
Hokemania
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Stauskas, Nash... Seems definitive.

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:21 PM | SELF UPVOTE? (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:23 PM | I just don't care, still (Score:4 Normal)
UMmFan1
Joined: 08/08/2012
MGoPoints: 12

I just don't care, still enjoying the mere fact of having a baltic named tall canadian as a SG. It's well known having one on your team is not just effective, it makes you cooler.

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:23 PM | 11 (Score:2 Normal)
ontarioblue
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Joined: 06/30/2008
MGoPoints: 1237

I wonder who will wear his legacy numbet?

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December 1st, 2012 at 8:26 PM | Rice... (Score:2 Normal)
GRBluefan
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Joined: 02/13/2009
MGoPoints: 529

Is one of the greatest shooters in basketball, not just u of m, history. So I guess I'll say no.

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December 1st, 2012 at 9:50 PM | Steve fisher's thought on Glen Rice (Score:4 Normal)
CommodityTrader
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Fisher was asked after the tournament run if Glen Rice was the greatest shooter he'd ever seen. Fisher said, Rice wasn't even the best shooter on the team. The reporters all laughed, but fisher told them it was Rob Pelinka. Most of you won't even remember Pelinka, but as a shooter he was unbelievable. In pre game warm ups he would warmup up until he made 100 shots. The one night I counter he was 100/120 from all over the gym including 30 footers. That's the difference between a great basketball player and just a great shooter.

Desmond Howard's Heisman and the Fab Five - Great time to be a Michigan Student.  Wrote Punt-CounterPunt in 1993 Season.

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