Spread QB Metric
Kilgore Trout wanted to make a topic, I'll oblige his want in this case as helping people research things seems worthy:
I'm considering trying to come up with my own QB metric for spread and shread qbs. Off the top of anyone's head, can you name me some recent teams that have run the spread and shread so I can get some more data? So far I have... UM '08, '09 WVU under Rich Rod Recent Oregon vintage Last three years of CMU Cinci?Comments can go here. Help the guy out.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:34 PM ^
Northwestern
November 1st, 2009 at 9:37 PM ^
florida?? run the spread....
November 1st, 2009 at 9:38 PM ^
a whole piece on Brian Kelly from GVSU to CMU to Cincinnati.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:39 PM ^
USF runs a version of it.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:44 PM ^
Or just run-based? If run-based I would say no to Cinci, but add Florida, Utah, and South Florida to name a few.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:51 PM ^
for the help. I'm looking for as many that mirror UM's as much as possible, so I'd say leaning towards run based.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:49 PM ^
Gus Malzahn flat out gettin' it done as OC there. Now OC at Auburn. Wait 'til he gets his peeps in there.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:58 PM ^
The ones that I came up with for my diary were Illinois, WVU, USF, Oregon, and Florida.
Cincinnati is pass heavy. CMU and Utah would be good. Off the top of my head, NW does not run the spread and shred.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:07 PM ^
N'Western does. Walker learned from Rodriguez hisself.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:59 PM ^
It really depends on what you mean by spread and shred. I assume this means offenses that are spreads that emphasize spread to run formations, but what about spread to pass (as that's a kind of shred, is it not?)?
In that case, I'll throw out this list. General caveat on it being hard to define exactly what a spread team is and what their focus is from year to year. Examples of the former is Penn State's Spread HD that is a spread package even through they may not be a true spread team.
I admit that some of the teams on this list are probably more balanced, but this is the perception I have of their philosophy, which could definitely be an incomplete understanding (aka just plain wrong).
There's a lot of non-Big-6 conference teams that I don't know exactly what their offense is. There's plenty of teams in the bottom of Big-6 conference teams that I'm not entirely sure about either (Kentucky, Duke, etc) that I'm not entirely sure about either.
Spread to Pass (various levels of it):
- Texas Tech
- Kansas
- Houston
- Missouri
- Texas
- Hawaii
- Oklahoma State
- Cincinnati
- Northwestern
- Penn State (Spread HD package)
- Purdue (used to be pass oriented, not so much anymore)
- Arizona
- Tulsa
- New Auburn
- Oklahoma
- WVU
- Michigan
- Oregon
- Baylor
- South Florida
- Illinois
Oregon State- Florida
- Vanderbilt
- Iowa State
- Utah
- Virginia Tech
November 1st, 2009 at 10:10 PM ^
Good list.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:23 PM ^
Ahoy, I think you meant Oregon instead of Oregon State. They run the ole' West Coast offense.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:25 PM ^
Had them both, but like I said, I may be just remembering it incorrectly. To be corrected.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:26 PM ^
VPI runs a more pro-style offense too methinks.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:32 PM ^
I consider them kind of like Penn State with how they've used Taylor this year. There's been some more zone read plays. Maybe not enough to consider them a true spread team. There's a reason they were a late add to the list.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:40 PM ^
I see. Good points. Tons of teams use elements of the spread outside of your Iowas, Wisconsins, and MSUs. I think that developing a metric for spread quaerterbacks should be devoted to true spread teams unless the guy wants to dissect the stats from some teams and only take in spread plays.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:57 PM ^
WVU has actually switched over to a balanced, if not straight up pass-heavy, attack since Rodriguez left. Their new OC is much more into downfield passing.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:01 PM ^
Okie State uses a lot of spread to run stuff, though they're more into power and counter runs than our zone-based stuff.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:01 PM ^
Auburn does it this year. I think they pulled their OC from Tulsa???
November 1st, 2009 at 11:09 PM ^
Indeed they did. Auburn also experimented with more zone read last year, although to horrible results.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 AM ^
I don't watch them much(can't stand the blue turf), but they are very successful against...well...everyone they play. Including BCS teams in BCS games and top 25 teams, just ask Oregon over the last two years.
Seems to me Oregon is pretty goods, didn't they just...beat...um...oh yeah USC!!!