after losing Ryan Mallet. This team will fortunate to make the tourney next year. Just when I was getting excited about college hoops again. Blurg
well that's just, like, your opinion, man
after losing Ryan Mallet. This team will fortunate to make the tourney next year. Just when I was getting excited about college hoops again. Blurg
we're gonna lose to Tappan Middle School next year. Please, get it together, some perspective wouldn't kill you.
making the tourney in a conference like the B1G is no easy feat. Even if we win 20 games, that does not guarantee we make it if we can't go .500 in the B1G. Look at all the years Amaker came 1-2 wins short with pretty decent talent.
We have now lost 4 of our top 6 players. Sure we have talent coming in, but we will once again be a team of underclassmen including 6-7 freshmen or sophomore eligible players amongst our top 10.
Sorry, but we are not Kentucky. We can't afford to try and reload every year.
you get minus a million points for having the audacity to compare tommy amaker to John Beilein.
And Amaker never brought in a top 10 recruiting class
Justin Feagin without the issues (hopefully) seems like a fair comparison. His highlights suggest he is going to have a real tough time getting into the lane in the B1G. IMO he won't beat out Akune for playing time.
I will say this about the team overall, Belien adjusted his offense to work take advantage of Morris and Burke the last two years. HIs base offense actually doesn't call for a point guard that dominates the ball. If they can get enough ball handling to be able to get the ball up the floor and the freshman are as good as advertised I think this team will surprise people.
I've seen them. Go look at Justin Feagin's tape or better yet Carlton Brundidge. It's a high school highlight tape. I am not saying don't offer him, I just doubt he plays much next year. Looks like the kid can shoot and handle the ball, but he is really small and doesn't appear to have much explosion to attack the rim at the next level. Until he gets more strength he will be over matched on defense. How much you want to bet Akunne gets more minutes next year?
six one, which would put him right there with Trey, maybe an inch taller. Dunno. I think people bring a lot of preconceptions; this guy might fail, but he clearly thinks the game real well. And he can hit the three enough to keep teams honest.
very fluid with his moves and uses his body well for seperation which gives him options as a point gaurd to pass or shoot. If he can consistently knock down that stop and pop the highlight showed he should be able to draw out the defenders even more leaving back cuts and oops for the bigs and GRIII.
Reminds me of Dave Sobloweski from N'Western...
Either someone is supremely intelligent and prescient, or it's a tad early to predict that Albrecht will turn out like Justin Feagin did.
My money is on the latter, especiallly after seeing the video that ended up above my post.
According to who ?
According to 93grad, the most trustworthy person on the internet when it comes to who's in and out for the NCAA tourney
What rose is there to say. Maybe he will come in and so work. Can't blame him for our previous pgs leaving us in bad spots.
On the plus side, we probably won't have to worry about him leaving early in '13. Also, it is (for real) nice that he has connections to guys past and future (Novak, McGary, GRIII).
Aside: He's not the only Spike Albrecht in the general area.
they run an Offense very similar to Beilein's? very helpful
it's painfully obviously we need some more point guards.
This guy is so good Rivals, ESPN and Scout forgot about him.
Name anyone on our roster or on the horizon who is a better PG option for next year? It sucks that these early departures (potentially) have left us in this situation, but lets not take it out on a guy who will help our team next year...
How can you say with complete certainty this guy is going to help? Let's face it, this is a desperation move since we have nobody to handle the ball next year. This is a HUGE blow if Burke leaves
we couldn't say with certainty that burke was going to be much help this year. i know i've seen several starting point guards at UM who had less talent than this kid; starting point guards at that; some on pretty good teams.
dan pelakoudas; avery queen; dugan fife (started for 3 years) to name a few. like many have said, UM just needs this guy to take care of the ball, make good passes, hit the occasional open 3 and play decent team D. he doesn't need to be burke or morris.
You don't think with "Certainty" that Burke would help the team next year!?!? Great argument, how could a player that pundits were stating was in the top 7 freshman in the nation help our team without 1 viable option to handle the ball. You guys are in happy land if you think walk-ons & whitey whitertons who had 4 years of high school ball, years on a high profile AAU team & an extra year in prep school that plays a number of high profile recruits but still have no offers are going to step in and we won't miss a beat.
The world isn't over, but anybody that says Burke leaving won't hurt UM hoops with certainty is a fool. Without him this year they don't win the B10 Ship. This kid was handling the ball and not getting a break every game with Stu, Akune & Brundidge available. Now there is just Akune how didn't see the floor when Burke could barely breath from playing so many minutes.
With Burke, could be a special team. They're not going to tank or anything, just a major major hit.
They also didn't anything nice to say about Novak and Douglas when they came in.
At least he has a cool name.
Spike is a tremendous name for an athlete!
This kid's a late bloomer, kind of like Burke was, that's why none of the recruiting sites don't know him.
He just didn' t have an OSU / Kentucky type offer. He was MR Ohio so it wasn't like he was under the radar.
Exactly, Burke was a late bloomer. He had a great senior season and won Mr Ohio, he had no offers from the powerhouses because he was a late bloomer.....
Someone on another board said they saw that Nino Jackson is possibly visiting Michigan soon. He'd be a big time get this late in the recruiting game. No idea if true. I know this is kind of a "heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another" type of post so TIFWIW
nice sized 4 star. that would be a nice get. Obviously I am a little biased, but I don't understand why a top PG wouldn't want to go to Michigan now.....
Maybe Ellerbe would have been interested, but I can't see Beilein pursuing him. http://jayhawk-talk.com/tag/nino-jackson/ He's profiled at the end.
Yeah, after reading the actual post that the guy was referring to, it just seemed like rumor mongering. And apparently the kid has academic issues as well. Sorry to get mine and others' hopes up.
This kid does not seem to have B1G quickness or talent for that matter, but I guess time will tell...
Look at it this way... The kid played with McGary and GRIII on their AAU team. They already know how to play together. I would like to think this gives Spike a little bit of a boost at least in team chemistry.
He may not be highly touted, but it sure sounds like he can play the point (of course this is based off of "coach speak" in the linked article, but still). Is he a Trey Burke? No, but who says we even need a Trey Burke on this team to be successful? We will have enough playmakers in Hardaway and GRIII, a shooter in Stauskas, and a crash-the-boards type in McGary as far as touted talent goes. We need a guy who can distribute to them. Granted, he'll just be a freshman, but it sure sounds like he has the tools to be a true point guard as someone who can control the ball and distribute. Maybe that's all the team needs to perform at a high level - a Steve Nash type (not comparing ability, just the type of player).
If we get this kid, I will be very happy. Even if it just means we actually have a true point on our team. Which... yeah. I'd say we could kind of use a little bit of that.
Hey you guys know what's a great idea? Let's all bash him on the board he's probably reading a few days before he visits. Who needs him anyways.
If Beilein is recruiting him at a position of serious need, we should try and show him at least a little respect. Guy is a genius when it comes to uncovering underrated talent...
Have you seen the highlight film? He didn't look as good as Brundidge and you see how slow and uncomfortable Carlton looked with the ball in his hand. I'm sure he is a great kid, but let's face it. If the coaching staff was really that high on the kid he would have recieved an offer a lot earlier. This feels like a Reed Baker type move from a few years ago...
Watching highlight film from ones couch does not make one a talent scout, that much is obvious. Also obvious: this board is a casual gathering of sports fans, not experts. Also obvious: Beilein is a very strong talent evaluator. Also obvious: we could not have offered him much earlier as we just learned a few weeks back of the three departures.
Who was the last 2012 recruit to get an offer? That class had been full for a long time. Full without recruiting any point guards.
Yeah no kidding, if he ends up committing hopefully the board doesn't react like this: http://mgoblog.com/content/hello-shawn-conway
bashing him really makes that much of a difference. We will be the only big-time program (or any program?) who is going to offer him. This is probably a move for depth. Stauskas will most likely start at point before him. This is not a "late bloomer" as his season is done and still nobody has offered. Burke had a bunch of other D-1 offers.
Burke never cared about Michigan and losing him makes next year's team much worse. That is the truth, not self-loathing.
How can you say he doesn't care about Michigan? Have you talked to him personally?
If you got offered a multimillion dollar contract after your freshman year, would you stay in school for another year, with no guarantee that the offer would still be there? Don't imply that Burke is selfish; butthurt Michigan fans are the selfish ones.
as long as we just talk tough and think positively we will be ok. Thanks Tony Robbins!
Michigan has had to rely on the PG spot for a lot of points in recent years, but might not have to now. If they get a guy who is a decent distributor of the ball who won't turn it over a lot, that could be enough. With the talent that returns and the talent coming in at other positions, there will be plenty of hungry "mouths" to feed, and only one ball.
Whoever plays the point next year, if he can handle the ball, get it to the right people. and play even average defense, it should be enough for an entertaining and fruitful season.
I was writing basically the same thing while you posted this. Nice to know that some of us aren't inching towards the edge right now.
Beilein took a Michigan team with a lot less talent and 2 walk-on point guards to the tournament, why wouldn't he be able to do it again?
With all the concerns about his athleticism being the only real concern I'd like to briefly dwell on the Beilein system and focus on the other talent on the team.
-Ball movement & Motion: This is what the Beilein offense is all about, this wasn't always the way that Burke and Morris handled it, but the offense really is about moving off the ball and passing the ball around a lot (similar to a Princeton offense). This doesn't mean that we need another guy that will dribble the air out of the ball the last couple years like Morris and Burke did. yes it worked having them run the point, but Beilein's preferred system doesn't really need that type of player.
-Other talent: With the wealth of talent at the 2/3/4/5 next year, it will be okay to have a 1 that will focus on running the offense, distributing to his teammates, and making great decisions. The primary concern comes when other teams press a PG with limited athleticism, this can be overcome by having a lot of height at the other positions that can pass out of the press (Stauskas, Hardaway, GR-III, and McGary should help here). We don't need Albrecht to be the kind of penetrator and scorer that Burke and Morris have been the last couple years when we have a guy like GR-III coming in and replacing Novak, he should be able to pick up a lot of the penetrating opportunities (and I'd expect Hardaway to penetrate a lot more next year). If Albrecht can come in, learn the offense, take care of the ball, and knock down the occasional open 3, he should do a decent job considering the type of talent that he has around him (same goes for Della Valle if he comes in and runs the point).
Already. I'll preface with this: Let's face it, Burke is gone. Peace out. Enjoy the D-league and jumping to your dream job with your best friend. Beilein saw the light, it looks like, months ago. People bringing up Beilein's player relationship may not be as "conspiracy theory" as some of the others suggest; this is not an all bad thing, by the way. Who's to say, maybe Trey loved it in Ann Arbor. I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that it's doubtful he was in heaven by being up in AA. If he was in love with the team -and more importantly, the guy who could get him to the NBA to succeed, ahem, Coach John Beilein- the situation would be different right now. Burke was ready to bolt and there's not much that was going to change that.
Getting back to Beilein being a player's coach. It's fine that he's not. He seems to be the Father-like coach rather than the Brother-like coach. He has a personality that has let him succeed with many teams before. It's proven to work. Maybe the players that have left Michigan/about to leave Michigan just don't vibe as well with him; so be it. Bring on the players that do gel with him best, and the success will come.
But here we are, 9 months out from the season, and the team has no sufficient PG. Fans/bloggers are in a frenzy and one of the options, and to me thus far the best option, is an unrecruited kid from Massachusets. The pressure on this kid from the get-go will be immense. "Filling the shoes" of Trey and garnering the talent being brought in around him will be hard to match the expectations for. The comments being made already about the kid, are foolish and more often than not from people not known for their knowledge of the game. So relax all. Things will be alright come Winter 2012 for Coach Beilein and the Michigan B-Ball squad.
He's from Indiana....not Massachusetts
= From Massachusets
Is how I went about doing that...
Is our best option assuming Burke leaves. Even if Burke stays, this kid would be a good get, every team needs at least 2-3 PG's. He can definitely shoot it, and pass it. We have enough scorers next season, he doesn't need to score to be a solid option at PG.
From a fellow Crown Point Bulldog to another I say welcome aboard Spike if you get offered.
I went to college in Crown Point. That's crazy.
I didn't even realize there was a college in crown point. Crazier!
as a fellow from lowell, just south of crown point, its great seeing local kids from our area getting a chance to prove themselves. I'm excited for the kid. the coaches obviously saw something they liked. let's just trust them to do thier job. we all know star rankings don't mean squat when you give a small town kid a shot and a chance to make something for himself.
There's a lot of talent in the Duneland Athletic Conference(for you non NwIndiana folks that is his pre-pep school bb conference). Division one talent is all over it so it's not like he was playing against a bunch of willy nilly teams and the year of prep school has had to have helped him plenty. Trust in coach B and his talent evaluation abilities my MGoBrothers and sisters.
This is a move for a back-up. With douglass gone brundidge transferring they need a backup. For burke next year and walton in the future
This according to Scout. Expect a Hello: Spike post sometime on Thursday. I assume this means they will still be recruiting Amadeo Della Valle as there are still a number of scholarships opened.
I wouldn't be surprised (although I also don't expect this to happen) if Albrecht got an offer similar to the one that Amaker gave Reed Baker. Come in for a year and if we like you we'll extend the scholarship, if not, you got a chance to show what you can do and get attention from other schools. Win-win for both parties due to the fact he has no other D-I offers. I'd like to see this happen.
Ehhh, there aren't many options. Beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Here's your choice: 4* Carlton Brundidge or 2* Stu Douglass. Everyone whines that we're not going to get a highly touted kid here, but until they show up on campus those *s mean nothing. If Beilein thinks this 2* kid from Indiana that has played on a team with McGary and GR-III and against Stauskas has what it takes to get an offer, then who are we to question that.
His pre-existing relationship with the other 3 incoming freshman really makes this a much smarter decision in my book.
Thank you for your senseful post. More people need to see the light. The recruiting stuff is cool and as a hobby it's fun to keep track of. But there's a lot more to these in-coming/potential in-coming student athletes than the stars they're given and the articles written about them. Things like experience playing with two of the incoming talented recruits (who do have the stars, yay!). Things like this kids potential will to shine and overcoming his alleged lack of athleticism to play D-1 ball in the Big 10, proving the many naysayers wrong. Things like GRIT. Maybe, just maybe, he haz it; so we shouldn't judge him before finding out. The fact of the matter is, if the incoming class is as good as advertised, as good as those all-knowing Stars tell us, this PG we are in need of isn't going to need to be a world beater. He isn't going to need to be a true-freshman phenom, a la Trey Burke, carrying an overachieving team on his back. Said PG will need to get the ball up the court, hit open shots, but primarily get the ball to playmakers. Coach Beilein will cater to whatever the situation is. Go Blue. The Future is still bright.
I wasn't too impressed with the highlights. (Didn't look bad, but just not great) So I went back and watched a game of his (at least when he was playing) of when he was playing some good competition. I have to say that I'm more impressed after I watched that. He reminds me more of a steve nash type than a trey burke type. He has some very good handles and can get the ball just about anywhere on the court. He's a great distributor. If trey burkes leaves then we need to bring in another PG and this late in the year there aren't too many options. I would be glad if he joined our team (once again, assuming burke leaves)
His name is Spike... I'll take him.
Well, if he does commit he'll fill the grit void left by the departures of Novak and Douglass nicely.
to Bolivian... I'm sorry to see you're back, now please go away.
Huh? I barely even post on here. Am I missing something?
The kid looks like he has good open court vision a smooth stroke and he showed the ability to stop and pop. He will adjust to the size of the big ten by doing more stop and pop rather than taking it all the way. He does have a smooth quick take to the hole though so I think he will still be able to convert as long as he doesnt force it. Considering his familiarity with McGary and GRIII he might be the perfect stop gap PG until the next big name arrives.
Exactly. I saw this kid do something in his video that I never saw Brundidge do, I've yet to see Stauskas do, and that is dribble hard to his right and pull up for a quick release accurate jumper. Very difficult to defend if you have it in your arsenal. It landed Jerry West immortality as an NBA logo. About the only guys on M you will see able to do that are Hardaway and Burke. If Spike can pull up with a quick release jump shot with consistency, he will be a tough cover and someone capable of getting their own shot with the shot clock winding down. I would love to see M offer this kid.
The hard dribble pull up J is something Scott Skiles destroyed fools with in college. Spike is no Scott Skiles but he can definitely help.
Doesn't it seem like this happens every year? But the following year we always bounce back when people say that there is no hope.
Look when manny left.... People thought that Michigan wouldnt bounce back... But a guy that averaged just 4 points the previous season stepped up and went to the NBA (Darius Morris).
Following year, after Darius leaves, everyone freaks out wondering who will I'll his shoes.... And Burke steps up, and now he is probably going to leave.
Trust me, Michigan will succeed and have a good run in the tournament next year.