Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Sparty Rose Bowl AD Running on DetNews Today
Dewey was from my home town. So close to having a president from Owosso.
Moderate:informative to you good sir. I never knew he was from the Flint area. Learn something new everyday.
He also went to Michigan and wrote for the Daily.
This internet thing's a small place. I am also from the greater Owosso metropolitan area.
That's funny. Owosso being described as a "metropolitan area". Which hectare?
Well we do get a tiny yellow square on the map so it must be true.
North side, east of 52.
Hey, I am also from the Greater Owosso Metropolitan Statistical Area, Easton in fact, close to New Lothrup, graduated from Owosso High School. Live in Virginia now.
Though I tease her that Corunna has the Meijer and the nice courthouse. Heading up for pre-Christmas stuff, hoping for a trip to Sir Pizza (divy but good!)
I'm from Owosso as well. Quite a gang here. Nothing better than a Sir Pizza cube pepperoni. That is about the only thing I miss from Owosso. It battles my brain daily along with a Count of Antipasto slice. Sad day when that went away. Great pizza but so, so, so inefficient.
i've driven through Owosso, does that count?
You want good pizza, I'd recommend Main St. Pizza in Corunna. Just down from the Cavalier Bar.
Still odd that he ended up the governor of New York though.
i married a chick from owosso. one of the brazil sisters. the internet is so small.
Holy cow what a place we have here. Roma's pizza behind the "Capital Theater". Geezo. About 1/3 of the population has left Owosso, I think. I am from the Brad VanPelt era, his bro was my best friend, used to sleep over there a lot.
I went to Brad's wedding so maybe we've met. His wife was my babysitter when I was a little one. I used to go to Roma's for a bacon pizza a lot when I was young. That was before Sir Pizza came in and I made the great discovery of pepperoni.
A college pal of mine married Bill Roberts, he was from a pretty big family in Owosso as I recall. Of course I'm about 75 years older than all of you.
Edited because it would help if I actually got his last name right.
Well now that you got the last name right! I did know a couple of Roberts, but it's a pretty common name.
For anyone actually from Owosso, or anyone who can identify with small town gossip and trivia, there is a Facebook page named "YOU KNOW YOU'RE FROM OWOSSO IF... ". It is very amusing to read many of the same experiences people had and reminisce about some landmark businesses that are no longer.
One of the funniest things about going to school in Owosso was all the boys going to swimming classes in Junior High and High School COMPLETELY NAKED. I, for one, didn't think anything of it because you just did what you were told to do. Apparently this was anything but common, in fact people have tried unsuccessfully to find ANY other school system where this was done. You had to strip down cue-ball naked, go thru the cold showers that spit out sharp pellets of ice, then go to the pool area and line up, everyone just shivering. It was cold. There wasn't too much shrinkage because packages were already quite small in their natural state.
Guess we were just lucky that Jerry Sandusky wasn't our gym coach.
...for the win. Went back to visit this past summer just after the Curwood Festival. A great place to be from.
Al Gore hadn't invented it yet
Best. Screen capture. Ever.
Didn't those guys learn anything from the Big Ten basketball championship banner thing a couple years back?
Wow, that "fan" is some creepy stuff. Put that on a billboard.
Put that on a billboard.
I want to bear your child. Some mornings just make me so proud of the MGoBlogosphere.
I wonder if a Michigan fan ran the ad - payback for all those personal fouls. Nah...we got our payback in sugar.
I'd be so peeved at the Detroit News for that. Obviously you get your ad ready to go before the outcome. You trust the paper isn't going to make you look like an idiot by running it when it shouldn't.
I can't laugh too hard at MSU because it could just as easily be us on the bad end of such a gaffe.
it is also running on the MSU to Outback story.
That is some serious FAIL... but I kind of love it.
you deserve well more than a fake 5 points for that.
It can be deduced beyond a reasonable doubt that the travel agency that makes money off of MSU travel packages has at least a few MSU fans making decisions for them, like the decision to run this ad. They had to get their ad ready ahead of time, and they did. They ASSumed that their great and beloved Spartans were going to the Rose Bowl.
In other words, they did what Sparty always does: they severely overestimated their place on the food chain. This ad is merely another case of Sparty getting exactly what they deserve.
Work filter blocking... Really could use a good laugh from over here in the Czech...
nope, he didnt hit him
Dewey beat Truman too, right? (That was a Chicago paper, but I forgot which one.)
Edit: must have been in the first post... the picture doesn't display for me, for some reason.
msuspartans.com still has a "Buy MSU Big Ten Champs Gear" ad that pops up, too.
I love these guys. Enjoy the Alamo Bowl!
Florida grows oranges....California grows oranges so therefore they are almost the same state right?
i work in advertising. this is clearly the fault of the detroit news for running this.
I look at advertising. This one is hilarious.
A Wolverine in the News ad department, perhaps?
Since 1970, Michigan has made 15 Rose Bowls. Sparty? Well Sparty would've doubled their appearances during that span had they not blown it this weekend. They'll always have 1988! Dantonio still needs to get over that hump to earn a spot as an MSU Trustee after he retires.
At http://www.msuspartans.com they had ads running for a few hours after the BTCG that read:
"Michigan State Spartans Football 2011 Big Ten Champions", showing all of their Big Ten Championship gear.
"Big Ten Legends Division Champions To Play In Outback Bowl"
Think they are a little peeved off over there?
I noticed on the link you gave that spartan website has them listed as 12th. Only the AP poll has them at 12 and the bcs has them listed as 17.
a travel agency placed that ad (just read it), not MSU itself. Nonetheless, I still very much enjoy it.
Somebody should probably tell Wisconsin they are not going.
so that they can look down at their feet and say, "That Coach Danantonio sure was right".
The fact that it's still up is perfect...just adding some more salt to that wound. Ouch
Could MSU's athletic director represent his team's fan base any more accurately than this?:
As for rival Michigan getting into a BCS bowl, Hollis said: "I don't really understand the BCS and the process that's used. It's really complicated."
Um, you have to win your conference or be in the top 14. That's it. You did neither. Yes, if you had been in the top 14 you would have been left out and Michigan would have been picked ahead of you. But that's not what happened, Sparty. The voters and computers think we're better than you. And I think they're right. But it's funny that MSU's fans, and even their wonderful and dreamy 5th year senior dear leader quarterback (btw, drew sharp had the stones to say that MSU is "saying all the right things" about Michigan going instead of them - way to not let facts get in the way of your story) are showing their insecurities about Michigan being chosen over them because of money and politics. Hard to argue with that and it no doubt would be true because we're Michigan, and you're not. But you weren't eligible because the voters and the computers think we're better than you. Stop making Boise state's argument for them. They've got beef. As does K State. But you don't.
Maybe don't get blown out by Notre Dame and Nebraska next time. Believe it or not "head to head" doesn't mean everything – or else Iowa State would be bitching about how they should be ranked ahead of Ok State. It's about a body of work. And people just don't like your body as much as ours. Sorry. I know missing out on the rose bowl for the 25th straight year is hard. But you'll survive. Hell, Northwestern has been there since you last were. If they can do it with a bunch of nerds surely your collection of past and future convicts will surely make it happen some day.
But if your athletic director doesn't understand (the guy that is paid to understand) then I shouldn't expect you to understand, brah.
Sparty on, little brother.
The Skunk Bears
I think we're getting ahead of ourselves if we think our football team is better than a squad we've lost four consecutive games to and who beat us by two touchdowns this season.
I think Michigan has had a better season than MSU, but the scoreboard says they're better than us.
We've beaten two teams that they lost to. Even though we lost to them, I think that qualifies as us being better than them. We have improved since we played them. They...haven't really.
Yeah, we beat the two teams that they lost to...and they beat the one team that we lost to (Iowa) and they beat us themselves.
That line of arguing won't get you very far.
Regardless, they beat us. They have bragging rights...until October 20, 2012.
I know the score was 28-14, but that was a one score game. They were more physical than us that game, and I hope that doesn't happen next year. I don't think Sparty takes 5 losing Cousins, Martin, Cunningham, and Worthy.
I've been loving all Sparty's facebook statuses and comments on my wall. Whenever a spartan tells me, "Wow, John, you're team couldn't have had an easier opponent. Good luck against a CUPCAKE in the sugarbowl!"
I usually respond, "Thanks! And, it's your, not you're!"
have bragging rights. That's true. However, in the football landscape, independent (actually significantly biased) voters and a computer ranked Michigan ahead of MSU.
What defines better in this scenario? A head-to-head win or a ranking? I don't know and don't like rankings, but it is what it is.
And of the two teams we lost to, they beat one of them and they are the other. To say that we are difinitively better than MSU at this point is a reach.
on the day we played them, and we are probably not better at this point in the season.
But, we all play in the same system and they knew what they had to do and didn't do it.
If I ever meet Kirk Cousins, I will offer to buy him a bloomin onion.
OK, that "bloomin' onion" crack made me laugh. I'm stealing that.
The servers aren't allowed to eat while they're working.
Nice play, sir. I'd +1,000 you if I could.
I don't like it, but its proabably true that they are an overall better team this year. Maybe it was the Cousins comment? If thats the case, ok.
My point was to highlight that we are all under the same rules...bad or not.
Furthermore, after thinking about it, maybe Cousins is just mad because they WERE the Big 10 (co)champs last year and STILL got snubbed by the BCS. Now thats funny, I don't care who you are.
Sure. And the scoreboard argument always works. But I would rather lose to Sparty and make the BCS than beat them and not go to the BCS. OSU may be a different story - although even that is because of the last 8 years. Maybe ND too - because some of those loses to them in the 80s during my formative years as a michigan fan still hurts. But even after beating us 4 years in a row MSU feels like a fly on the ass of a water buffalo. They are annoying but I am much more concerned with the Lion (OSU to continue with this awful analogy) stalking me than the fly we have to swat at with our tail. However, for the fly, circling our poop means the world to them. If they can bite our ass it makes their season. I'm gonna stop with the Serengeti stuff now.
The programs simply have a different set of goals and standards to measure their success. And I'm pointing to a different scoreboard - the one that shows Michigan on top of them at the end of the season.
Anyway, my real point is that Spartans are complaining about a scenario that didn't even happen. The Sugar didn't "choose" Michigan over MSU. The voters and the computers did. So, obviously, many people think we are better than them, no matter what happened in a trash tornado on the red cedar in October.
(I realize that for some Michigan fans the Sparty game means more than ND and for some even more than OSU - but while I grew up in Michigan and went to UM I haven't lived there for 11 years, so I don't have any annoying MSU fans to rub my face in losing to them. So the rivalry has taken what, I believe, is MSU's rightful place as being the 3rd - sometimes 4th, like this year with a major bowl game - most important rivalry to me).
But I would rather lose to Sparty and make the BCS than beat them and not go to the BCS.
I would have much rather had Michigan beat MSU (and OSU) and play in the inaugeral B1G Championship Game for the chance to play in the Rose Bowl. Yeah, they lost, and Michigan is going to a BCS game but Sparty controlled their own destiny. I don't like to get in the habit of telling people that their opinion is wrong..... With that said, your opinion is dead wrong.
I think you missed my point...and that is probably my fault.
What I am trying to say is that beating MSU doesn't make or break our season. MSU has a one game season and that is why it is so hard for them to handle having won that game but still being left out of the big boy bowls. While I admit that I hate losing them I've always found beating them to be by far the least satisfying of all our rivals. I get the most joy our of beating OSU and the most pain out of losing to ND. Sparty is just kind of also there to me. I realize many people don't feel that way, especially those that have to live next door to Spartans and hear about it all off season. But as a program, even after the last 4 years, they just don't hold a candle to OSU or ND. Or us, obviously. They are annoying. Nothing more.
That going to the Rose, or a BCS game, while losing to the Sparties is better than winning the game but not having a successful season. And you are right. Not sure how what you said could be interpreted as "wouldn't trade places with them."
MSU is not our measuring stick. We are their's. That is why you never hear them mention their losses to ND, Nebraska and Wisconsin being a factor in why they were left out of the BCS. Good luck against Georgia Sparties. Should be a really boring game.
Its about $$$ - and Sparty, you no make as much as Michigan.
Furthermore, its pretty obvious that the BCS rankings are mainly calculated on how many times you've lost and when you lost. Doesn't have as much to do with how good teams are head-to head.
Example: when Houston was ranked 6th (or 7th or something), did ANYONE really believe that they were better than everyone in the country except the first 5 teams? No, of course not, but they hadn't lost, so they were ranked high.
On to you Sparty, you controlled your own destiny to the Rose Bowl but spartied yourself into the kicker. Even if you didn't return the kick, Wisky couldn't have stopped you from marching right down the field, and right into the Rose Bowl.
So don't be so bitter, just be better. Don't lose three times. We ALL play in the same system, and you knew what you have to do. You didn't do it, so please only blame yourself, not the system.
Im really sorry youve missed your opportunity because it will be only harder in the years to come. You should have won while you could, while Michigan is still making its way back, and Ohio State had a bad year.
When I saw "AD" I assumed that this thread would be about their athletic director.
It's definitely the fault of the Detroit News, but I can't help laughing at MSU. And I think it's funny that MSU's players (well, Kirk Cousins) are complaining that they were punished for lowing a game while everyone else was at home sitting on their butts.
You know what solves that problem, Kirk? WINNING. You might be ranked higher if you hadn't been trounced by Notre Dame and Nebraska.
Son of a bitch. I've been trying to buy my Sparty sister that Rose Bowl package for Christmas all morning. Nobody's answering the damn phone.
I'll keep trying.
I got the "Wolverines sit at home and recieve benefits just like their fanbase does (ie unemployment?)" text last night from a Sparty.
Simply put I told him A. you could have won/moot point, B. It was happening anyways so dont get butt hurt and C. Playoff
My Facebook was blowin up w/ spartys bitching about Michigan last night, literally this is why the little brother comment works for you even if you have beaten us 4 years in a row!
If the agency bought the space directly from DetNews, then I'd lay this at DetNews' door.
But commonly internet stuff goes through a separate agency that pushes the ad to relevant websites. Think about the oddball ads that sometimes pop up on this very website: Brian is not to blame, he just rents that corner of the page to a company that puts ads there.
Any way you slice it though, it is friggin hilarious.
In my somewhat limited experience, local media sites, like your local TV station or newspaper, have their own online sales department and don't outsource it to Google or any other company. They already have ad sales teams, so selling online ads doesn't require additional staff, and the salespeople don't have to worry about their commissions getting cut into with the move to online media.
The blame most likely lies with DetNews, but doesn't take away from how funny it is.
Why, then, are lemons present in the ad?
I am actually on the can at work right now and you guys are making me laugh out loud from behind door #3. Now I have to wait for everyone else to leave before I come out.
It has been replaced with an ad for Capella University, at least on my machine here.
Does that mean the Rose Bowl tickets are sold out? Maybe Sparty does travel well.
It's their tremendous national following that allows them to recruit nationally.
So, they could make the breakeven load factor on a 727....maybe.
It should have read "2013."
/Getting my 2012 trolling in early.
was classic. Essentially he said that they would gladly have changed places (to have had the chance to play for the championship.) Sour grapes. Dantonio just can't be happy.
Look on the bright side Sparty.
The Outback Steakhouse is slated to have Toastmaster General Kirk Cousins opine at length on the privelege of enjoying the world famous Blooming Onion at the next Outback franchise junket. After said speech Dantonio will lean into the Outback's Regional Directors ear and whisper, "Special."