I'll root for OSU but I think MSU's defense will dominate.
"Coach Mattison told me what the Ravens were about, what he thought," Beyer said. "He definitely encouraged me. I hold his opinion in high regard."
I'll root for OSU but I think MSU's defense will dominate.
Sparty, then Rose Bowl Meteor so they get the ultimate clowning.
wins on a horrible call by the officials, just so we can watch Urbz whine and cry for about the next 10 years!
Impact on recruiting: Push. Both comprise our biggest recruiting rivals. Even with a BiG championship I don't see Sparty overtaking UM as the state's best recruiter. Hoke may not be an offense mastermind, but the heavyset man sure can recruit.
Douchier coach: Push. Dantonio is a mirthless bastard, and Urbz is an unscrupulous, win-at-all-costs moral phony.
Impact on next 364 days of misery for UM fans: Favor Ohio. Buckeye fans have grown weary of rubbing it in our faces after a decade of dominance. MSU fans with a Big Ten championship, which we haven't had in 10 years, would unsheathe a new dimension of misery on us we've never seen before.
Team Trajectory: Favor Ohio. Ohio's status won't change much with this win. Sparty's will.
Heartstings with the Underdog: Obviously, favor MSU. Sparty's resources and national recruiting pull (Dantonio intergalactic reach aside) are far inferior to Brutus's, so it is always nice to see the little guy beat the big guy (as long as the big guy isn't us).
VERDICT: With your heart you will be leaning for MSU, but with your mind, in terms of what is best for UM, you will be leaning for OSU, provided OSU loses in the NC game.
I think Sparty wins and I want them to. As annoying as the fans will be, I just can't stomach the idea of a school whose coach gets run off for blatant cheating coming back and having a shot at the NC a year later. Fuck Sparty, but fuck the Buckeyes more. The fact that state probably plays in the rose bowl either way just seals it for me.
As good as MSU's D is, I don't see them shutting down Miller and Hyde. OSU will score 30 and will win this game.
I dunno, Ohio will get points, but if anyone matches up with them it's Sparty. Their ability to leave their corners on an island really frees up the rest of the defense to stop the run game. As much as it pains me to say, state has an elite defense this year and their offense is better than people give them credit for.
They did it last year.
If OSU wins, MSU probably ends up in the Rose Bowl, which bumps everyone else in the B1G up a bowl slot, including Michigan (good for us).
If MSU wins, the Buckeyes get knocked down a peg, and let's face it - with Sparty's epic defense this year, they've earned it.
I think the best scenario would be an ugly game that OSU wins on a controversial call and then the voters put Auburn ahead of them in the NC game thus screwing both teams in the process. That would be the best case scenario as a fan without involving natural disasters that swallow the stadium whole. As for what WILL happen? I don't think MSU's offense can score enough and as great as their D is I think they'll still give up 25+ points. OSU in an ugly close game.
In the long run it is probably better for us if OSU is not in the national championship. I actually would want them both to win BCS bowls since the Big Ten is perceived to be a laughingstock of a conference. If Hoke is going to be the guy we are going to have to have a pretty good year next year and a spectacular year in 2015.
If the conference continues to look terrible by Big Ten teams dropping bowl games then when Michigan finally turns this around we will have a much tougher time getting into bowls we want to get into. We need the conference to at least look better for our long term goals.
Edit: to add to this I want Michigan to be the leaders and best of a good conference not simply replace Ohio State as the flag bearer for a down, decrepit conference. Ohio State has had so much success in recent years but have failed on the big stage. This may possibly be due to the Big Ten being down for so long and not providing them a challenge. Obviously we have even less control of how well the conference does and I won't be upset if they lose their bowls. I'm merely stating there may be some good things that come out of Big Ten teams doing well in the non-conference games. Either way Hoke needs to do well the next two years or we will be starting over anyway.
I got the meteor headed right for Lucas Oil Stadium on Saturday!
That's who I'm pulling for1
I just don't think MSU can score enough points against OSU to beat them. It will be a lower scoring game.. but OSU is still going to get 24-28 points. I have Sparty down for 17 points.
I hope Missouri and Auburn collude and Missouri lets Auburn beat them by 60+ points. That way, the voters will really consider letting Auburn jump OSU.
My 6 year old niece decided over the summer that she loves MSU and she's still rooting for them hardcore. She asked me if I was going to root for them this weekend. I said, "no.". Her eyes then got really wide and she asked me if I was rooting for OSU. I said, "no." I will never root for either team.
I'm thinking of not even watching. Maybe I'll tune in at the very end just to see who wins.
My passion for Michigan football will never change. But my passion for college football in general has taken a downward spiral the last few years. All the programs I despise most keep having major success and all the cheating programs keep getting wrist slaps from the NCAA.
I just don't have much motivation to watch a matchup between one rival coached by a slimeball and another rival coached by an asshole.
How did you allow or your brother/sister allow your 6 year old to decide she loves MSU? WHERE IS THE PROPER PARENTING?
Would love to see them blow out Sparty enough to drop them out of the top 14. I would get a huge laugh if Sparty missed out on the Rose Bowl again
This game is the s*** sandwich can't win either way. That being said, do something productive and go make some kids dreams come true for Christmas through the WTKA giving of Christmas campaing. 734-998-1050. They still have kids they need to be adopted for Christmas. Lets show Michigan fans truly give back to the community.
I know that Ohio is our biggest rival, but I can go months without talking to an Ohio fan, I have MSU fans all around me and they're insufferable right now.
As far as respect, I have more respect for Dantonio than Meyer. Dantonio has built that team in his own image and they are tough and hard nosed. Sparty has been better than us under Mark Dantonio, no two ways about it. Meyer is a con artist and awful.
As far as who will win, Sparty kicked the crap out of us and Ohio barely beat us, going with Sparty to win.
I can't root for either. But I hope it's an ugly game for OSU so we can see them get jumped in the polls.
OSU and I want them to win the MNC. I'm sick to death of hearing about how the SEC is the only league playing real football and I want to restore some of the B1G lost lusture. If it takes OSU to do that, I'm ok with that.
And I hope MSU wins the Rose Bowl and every B1G team wins their respective bowl game. Sorry, when we're 7-5 I'm rooting B1G first and foremost.
I predict I will be unhappy no matter what happens
Wipe the smile from Urban ' s smug face!
Sparty thumped us this year, legitimately. Ohio, well, they did not, despite their elite ranking.
Sparty has a great defense. Ohio has a great offense. Lets see who's tougher.
I don't see Ohio being elite. I think they ran the table on a season of creampuffs. Even unranked M came within one play of giving them a spanking they wouldn't forget for 25 years. I cannot respect their "elite" ranking.
Sparty is a bunch of underdog grinders and they have my respect for this season as they actually earned it and I will pull for them to serve justice to Urban and his boys.
If MSU can contain the run decently well, I think they win. OSU doesn't seem like a particularly good passing team
Which scenario hurts Michigan more, from a recruiting standpoint, (1) Ohio goes to NC or (2) 1-loss SEC jumps undefeated perennial B1G power?
Because evil exists, I can see Ohio getting lucky enough to play FSU's third string QB (back-up is injured) on the very last year of the broken BCS chapionship format. That's the only way they could win it because they're not beating any of the top teams at full strength. I hope Ohio loses, to avoid that scenario.
I would like to see the sec out of the ncg. Osu getting stomped in the ncg will be the icing.
Fuck the SEC...and why FSU vs osu NCG is what I'm rooting for:
I live in Atlanta and have been downtown during the SECCG a few times. Last time I went (2010 or 2011) I went to the parking garage near the Georgia dome and a lot of cars had words painted on them with that white stuff that people use to write on their windows.
I kid you not - at least a dozen cars had stuff like "SEC! SEC!" and "GO SEC!" written on them.
Personally, I'll get the most satisfaction out of it being a turnover-filled, terribly-played 3-2 outcome, regardless of who wins. I'm not rooting for either team, but I am interested to see how MSU's defense and Ohio's offense collide.
I guess I'd rather have Ohio win, so that even if MSU goes to the Rose Bowl, it won't be as B1G champions. Of course, that also sets up the potential for Ohio to be embarrassed by Florida State and MSU by Stanford. While personally satisfying, it would push the B1G into Big East territory as far as reputation.
I guess I really just want this season to end. Worst. Season. Ever.
In absence of meteor, I think the most satisfying outcome is OSU winning in a close, ugly game which allows Auburn to leap them in the poll, pushing Ohio to the Rose Bowl and Sparty getting Spartied again.
Here's to hoping the B1G Championship game is as unimpressive as all the B1G hatrers out there expect.
I hate OSU much more.
Can they both lose?
So, I won't be tempted to watch.
I don't live in either state, so I don't have to put up with the fans in general, though in a 5-person office I got an OSU grad and a secretary dating a Sparty. Luckily I'm above them in the org chart, and so I don't have to put up with much either way.
What would bring me much joy is for OSU to win but get passed by Auburn. What would bring me the most pain is OSU in the NC game. I think the MSU team is filled with jackasses, but I think OSU cheats. So, while I wouldn't root for MSU over the space aliens from Independence Day, Sparty on.
I keep going back and forth in terms of rooting interest. I don't like either program, but I think I actually have less hate for Ohio than I do Sparty. Either way, I suspect we will find that one of the two teams will be exposed as being not as good as people think, due to the very weak B1G this year.
If OSU wins and gets screwed out of the championship, and at the same time msu gets sent to the cap 1 bowl, sign me up. If sparty goes to the rose regardless, let them win and just deal with what could have been if not for the ghosts of ND.
The spartys and buckeyes go to OT where OSU wins. Auburn handles MO easily and jumps the OSU in the BCS poll and plays FSU in the championship gaem.
OR! FSU could lose to Duke; resulting in an OSU v. Auburn title game...and we all know who wins that one
I want Ohio's 24 game win streak snapped, and I want a Big 10 Team to beat OSU. I'm sick and tired of hearing OSU crow about their success, and how they're the only real team in the Big 10. Their hubris in planning for the National Championship is annoying. From my perspective, Michigan has already passed MSU in recruiting, and I'd much rather have MSU win now rather than later, when Michigan will be winning. Plus, I don't have any problem with them going to a BCS game, and they haven't been to the Rose Bowl for a long time.
I shouldn't have to say that I don't care for MSU, but they're the lesser of two evils, in my opinion. Ohio is the slimier, sleezier team, and I want to see Urban Meyer cut down to size. Ohio is lucky they won last week, and I want their offense to feel some real pain.
I tend to agree with you on most points. Ohio State had a gift of a season, especially with the Auburn win, and the eeking out of a win against us. But I fear more comments like, "Where's the threat?" coming out of Dantonio if they go on to win. Best case scenario is Michigan State wins and puts the Buckeyes in their place, and then Narduzzi leaves to head coach.
You speak my mind
i honestly don't know if I really care who wins the game...I guess Ohio St. because we just gave them a great game, and I made a bet with my GF that no SEC teams would make the championship game this year (was really banking on Oregon at the time, she is a UK fan).
I really don't like either team, but I find myself pulling for OSU more often because I respect them more as a rival and College Football is better when both OSU and UM are good (god i hope we get good).....Sparty being good does little for the B1G. People will start to respect the B1G more when Michigan and OSU (also Penn State and Neb) are at the top again and Sparty/Wisconsin/Iowa/Nwestern look solid year to year. The SEC pretty much has their blue bloods looking good year to year with a lot of solid teams thrown in there (and UK lol). But we rational fans know all SEC teams outside of Bama are no better than any other solid team in any other conference. So I guess I am pulling for OSU to bring the whole perception of the B1G up one notch.
The B1G also desperately needs to have a good showing in bowl games this year, probably more than any other year. That means we will have to beat whoever we play (Georgia, Vandy, some Big12 team), OSU will have to have a good showing if they go to the MNC, Sparty will have to have a great showing in the Rose Bowl (hopefully they both somehow pull off a win), and the rest of our bowl teams have to have great showings or win. We need a winning bowl record, especially against SEC foes. I'm so sick of hearing how wide the gap is between the SEC and Big10...it is also bad for recruiting when kids are constantly reading Twitter and watching ESPN talk about how awesome every SEC team is even though it's pretty clear there are some pretty average teams in that conference.
I think those of you pulling against OSU and Sparty in their bowl games must live inside a B1G bubble of sorts, I live in SEC country and I must say I would much rather see every SEC team lose and the Big10 win to gain respect. The B1G is a laughingstock down here and needs to earn respect. Michigan (or any Big10 team for that matter) may not sniff another MNC if the perception of the B1G follows the path that the former Big East took. Our conference needs to look good if we ever want to be in the top 4 playoff discussion going forward. We don't want one B1G loss to keep us on the outside looking in. The Pac12 earned respect the past few years, even after USC's dominance, so can the B1G.
Tell it like it is!
I would like to see a flash pandemic which causes the players try to eat each other. This melee spills into the stands where the fans of each deplorabale fan base continue to gorge on the others brains and limbs. Finally, before the horror can spill into the streets and harm the nice people of Indianapolis, the USAF surgically destroys the stadium and spares us further tragedy. Or something like that.
hmmm that is stepping up the natural disaster talk. In this case the whole Earth isn't destroyed with the meteor scenario. Everybody else needs to step up their games.
Thanks. It's from the heart, man.
Only way to be sure.
2) If no meteor, how about each team's bus crash into one another on the way to the stadium.
3) If no crash, how about Braxton Miller trips into Carlos Hyde during the coin flip resulting in a dominoes style falling of both teams' captains which sprains all of their ACLs and none of them can play. Then the ensuing game is a 0-0 after the 7th OT and is declared a draw.
4) If none of those then I say OSU wins because quite frankly I want the Buckeyes undefeated streak to end at the hands of Michigan and no one else.
It is in Indiana, so a tornado is a somewhat more likely option.
Dark Knight Rises kickoff, Black Sunday finish.