4.5 points seems a tad too much to me toward South Carolina. I would've expected 3 or thereabouts. But I'm no Vegas insider. Jamie?
yes plz
South Carolina opens at -4.5
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:13 PM
#1
South Carolina opens at -4.5
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:18 PM | 
Has anyone found a MGovideo
Has anyone found a MGovideo
December 4th, 2012 at 12:54 PM |
Just look for them on
Just look for them on
Just look for them on youtube. Many complete games are posted there. Also, if you can access ESPN3, you can watch them there as well.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:23 PM |
Is that with
Is that with
Is that with devin or denard as the assumed qb?
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December 3rd, 2012 at 6:11 PM |
the line will drop
the line will drop
if borges misses the flight.
December 4th, 2012 at 2:48 AM |
Not sure
Not sure
I think more importantly, it is with the clowney monster starting at DE for SCar.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 4:33 PM |
I believe its with Shavodrick
I believe its with Shavodrick
I believe its with Shavodrick Beaver under center.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:14 PM |
Spreads for other bowl games
Spreads for other bowl games
Here is a link to the rest of spreads that have come out so far (don't think it's worth a new topic):
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/
TCU is a 1 point favorite over MSU currently. Alabama is a 9.5 favorite over ND. OK St is a 17.5 favorite over Purdue....I follow spreads pretty closely and I don't think I've seen someone favored that high in a bowl game for a while.
Someone from mgoblog should set up a yahoo or espn bowl pick 'em group (with confidence points)....
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December 3rd, 2012 at 4:36 PM |
Actually a bit lower than I
Actually a bit lower than I
Actually a bit lower than I thought it would be. I was guessing we'd open about -7.
The interesting part of betting is watching what happens next. Which way will the line move from this point onward? The Alabama game saw the initial line move a LOT as all the money dropped on Alabama and kept dropping on Alabama right up until kickoff. Not that it means anything to the ultimate outcome but it is a bit disconcerning when seemingly everyone thinks your team is about to get it's ass kicked (and they were unfortunately right).
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:39 PM |
A good site
A good site
A good site to follow where the money is moving is covers.com. For instance, if you click on this link, and click "Lines History", you can see the money is has been poured on Navy the last few days to cover the spread vs Army this Saturday.
http://www.covers.com/odds/football/college-football-odds.aspx
Just thought I'd share for anyone interested...
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:13 PM |
Likewise
Likewise
I would have guessed about 6 to 7.
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December 4th, 2012 at 8:05 AM |
I'm with you sir, I expected
I'm with you sir, I expected
I'm with you sir, I expected 7 or so. All this talk about "favorable" matchup seems to forget USC's demolition of Georgia 35-7. They lost to LSU by 2 and the only saving grace is a blowout loss to Florida, but that was game 3 of a brutal 3 game stretch of GA, LSU, and FL back to back - can you imagine? South Carolina is a superior product to last year's V-Tech team which we all know was a "stolen" game (no complaints) and once again we have speed, speed, speed to deal with.
On the plus side SC beat Wofford 24-7 so maybe they'll take it for granted and Michigan's improved defensive play will keep us in the game. Just difficult to see a very close game without a run game not named Denard. But that said, I would rather see this matchup than a lesser bowl since it keeps putting up measuring sticks.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 PM |
Keep the faith. We have a
Keep the faith. We have a
Keep the faith. We have a great history in bowls against the SEC.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:27 PM |
We have a great history in bowls against the SEC.
We have a great history in bowls against the SEC.
So why is it that we can go 7-4 against the SEC, yet we're 4-11 against the PAC10 in the Rose Bowl since 1970? Is it purely a function of going 1-6 against Southern Cal?
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:43 PM |
Must be the Pacific Time
Must be the Pacific Time
Must be the Pacific Time Zone.
December 3rd, 2012 at 9:40 PM |
USC home field
USC home field
USC home field advantage.
Plus the distraction of their cheerleaders...
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December 3rd, 2012 at 11:04 PM |
Most of the time when we play
Most of the time when we play
Most of the time when we play an SEC team it's in a Florida-based bowl game, so we should be at an equal homefield disadvantage to playing the Pac 10 in the Rose Bowl. And while the USC song girls are incredible, it's not like SEC teams have ugly cheerleaders...
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 PM |
BIG TENNNN!
BIG TENNNN!
Probably mentioned elsewhere, but all 7 B1G teams are underdogs. Look at it this way, the conference only has to win 1 game to exceed expectations.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:44 PM |
Go Northwestern!
Go Northwestern!
Go Northwestern!
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:21 PM |
question
question
Are you the same "Spartanfan123" that post/posted on the Michigan State ESPN message board? If so, I used to post there quite often as michgoblue24 and remember seeing this SN there.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 6:27 PM |
Nope, that's not me.
Nope, that's not me.
Nope, that's not me.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:06 PM |
4.5 points seems a tad too much to me
4.5 points seems a tad too much to me
??? On one hand we've got a 10-2 team that pounded the snot out of Georgia, who was within 5 yards and 10 seconds of winning a spot in the NC game, and on the other we've got an 8-4 team that didn't score a single TD in three games and was just a hair away from being 6-6.
Even without Lattimore, 4.5 seems a bit generous to me.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:20 PM |
Cherrypicking
Cherrypicking
Watch other SC games. They very nearly lost to Vanderbilt, got stomped by Florida, and their schedule was much weaker than Michigan's.
No excuses. Play like a champion.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:54 PM |
their schedule was much weaker than Michigan's.
their schedule was much weaker than Michigan's.
Just a couple of minutes of perusing various sites seems to show that it's not as clear-cut as you say when it comes to who's had the tougher SOS:
SC stronger sked:
http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedul...
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html
UM stronger sked:
http://www.jhowell.net/cf/cf2012.htm
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:50 PM |
we lost to the #1, 2 and 3
we lost to the #1, 2 and 3
we lost to the #1, 2 and 3 teams in the country. their strength of schedule can't touch ours. they almost lost to vandy and tennessee. contain clowney, hope good borges shows up, and we can win this.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 PM |
We also barely beat MSU and Northwestern.
We also barely beat MSU and Northwestern.
We also barely beat MSU and Northwestern. Pretty sure both teams fans bases feel a lot of "what if..." after their seasons.
Hot dogs are the devil.
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:41 PM |
Don't forget Air Force
Don't forget Air Force
Another nail bitter that UM pulled out.
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:23 PM |
I would argue we don't have 1
I would argue we don't have 1
I would argue we don't have 1 quality win this year
December 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 PM |
I hate having to hope Borges
I hate having to hope Borges
I hate having to hope Borges doesn't shit the bed.
December 3rd, 2012 at 10:06 PM |
I guess LSU and Florida don't
I guess LSU and Florida don't
I guess LSU and Florida don't really count...
December 4th, 2012 at 8:17 AM |
Do you think if OSU or ND
Do you think if OSU or ND
Do you think if OSU or ND played in the SEEE EEEEHHH CEEEE they'd be undefeated teams? Let's be real - this was (save for last year) one of OSU's worst teams in perhaps a decade. They barely beat Indiana mid season. They squeeked by a very average MSU team. They were very beatable by a "bit above average" Michigan team at home.
As for ND - great defense, and lots of fog and mirrors. If Denard had knelt every play in the 2nd Q, Michigan wins that game. Stanford is their main quality win of the year and that was "disputed". They played USC without their QB. Etc.
S.C's top 3 opponents were GA, FL, LSU. Michigan's were Bama, ND, and OSU. I don't think that supports Michigan having a much more difficult schedule whatever the rankings. On a neutral field do you see OSU or ND being a favorites versus those teams? If yes by more tha 1 point or 2? They are equitable. The rest of Michigan schedule was a garbage Big 10 conference that was ugly in non conference. ANd dont give me Nebraska that was owned by Wisconsin, OSU and UCLA.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:07 PM |
Spread isn't a huge
Spread isn't a huge
Spread isn't a huge surprise. The B1G hasn't earned the right to be given all that much respect this year.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:13 PM |
simple response
simple response
Never tell me the odds. /solo'd
No radio. Nothing of value.
December 3rd, 2012 at 5:16 PM |
Fair line. HOWEVA, I love the
Fair line. HOWEVA, I love the
Fair line. HOWEVA, I love the matchup for Michigan. I expect a Brian-esque 19-15 score in this one. SC will not move the ball very well against us.
If the D can contain Ace Sanders, it comes down to how Devin Gardner handles the pressure. X-factor will be the effectiveness of a gameplan utilizing Denard as a weapon.
Denard is my homeboy.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 6:20 PM |
yes
yes
no long TDs against us. make them earn it by consistently moving the chains. do that, and we have a solid shot at winning this game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 7:19 PM |
I Would Agree...
I Would Agree...
The line pretty fair and actually a little below what the Sagarin numbers would estimate for the game actually. I checked the VI Consensus movement progress for this game as well and it looks like, right now, the O/U is hanging out around 48 points. My very preliminary inclination would be to take the "under" on the total for this game.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 5:53 PM |
I like Michigan
I like Michigan
17-10
BILG
December 3rd, 2012 at 6:16 PM |
It could have been worse
It could have been worse
Michigan is a four-loss Big Ten team playing a two-loss SEC team. Considering the public's perception of the SEC compared to the Big Ten, and considering that odds are simply designed to even out betting, I'm surprised the line isn't closer to 7.
December 3rd, 2012 at 7:06 PM |
Yes
Yes
As mentioned a little bit above, don't be surprised if the line moves a bit, in which I am guessing it may move in SC's favor a bit when people view this from the perception you mentioned.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 6:46 PM |
Forgive me if this is already
Forgive me if this is already
Forgive me if this is already posted somewhere, but who is the "home" team in our game?
THIS IS MICHIGAN
December 3rd, 2012 at 10:23 PM |
Purdue.
Purdue.
Purdue.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
December 3rd, 2012 at 8:38 PM |
I don't think Michigan is a
I don't think Michigan is a
I don't think Michigan is a great team this year, but let's look at our four losses. Losses against the #1, #2, and #3 teams in the country, and a loss against Nebraska with a RS freshman behind center taking the first meaningful snaps of his career in a tough road environment. I think we have a better shot at this than some people might think.
December 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 PM |
Maybe, but we haven't beaten
Maybe, but we haven't beaten
Maybe, but we haven't beaten anyone. SC crushed Georgia, which looks like the second-best team in the country.LSU and Florida are better than Ohio State and maybe even ND. And the Nebraska loss didn't look so bad until you realize that anyone's grandmother could have run for 100 yards on their defense. They're terrible. I think we ought to show some humility, for once, particularly after the beating we took to start this season. We're not that good this year. Sorry to say it. It hurts to realize it, but it's true.
December 3rd, 2012 at 9:38 PM |
South Carolina didn't play
South Carolina didn't play
South Carolina didn't play the # 1, # 2 , and # 3 teams away from home. They got crushed by Florida and Georgia was coming off of an uninspiring game against Tennessee when they played So. Car. Georgia was a different team at that particular time than the past few weeks.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 11:30 PM |
Honestly, I expected it to be
Honestly, I expected it to be
Honestly, I expected it to be higher. S. Carolina is a 10-2 SEC team while UM is an 8-4 B1G team. I was anticipating about a 7 point spread.
We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!
December 4th, 2012 at 12:04 AM |
I thought it would be higher.
I thought it would be higher.
I thought it would be higher. SC is a pretty formidable team.
December 4th, 2012 at 9:16 AM |
Expect that line to grow
Expect that line to grow
Just chatted with a couple of co-workers who are gamblers and they are hearing lots of chatter about the Florida and So Car lines. Both thought 7.5-8.5 for Outback.
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Has anyone found a MGovideo version of South Carolina? I wanted to watch some of their games, against clemson in particular.