I have seen a ton about his level of competition, which I believe probably has a lot to do with his #1 ranking on Rivals and now Scout. Also, his Senior highlight tape is much more impressive than his Junior year so maybe you were watching his Jr. tape.
Sorry...I got a Derrick Green Question. Let's call it DG post # 134 on this board
His level of competition is good, but there are better levels of competition in other parts of the country.
go easy on me.
Derrick Green highlights senior season.
My first embed, go easy on me. Derrick Green senior highlights.
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I suck. Maybe next time. Here's the youtube link.
Youtube is blocked on my work internet, so we'll see if this works.
Both of those are junior season highlights. His senior highlights were posted later in this thread.
I was just trying to help out Gobgoblue with his embed fail.
I got that, I was just saying.....
Thank you both very much!
You almost had it, you just needed to click switch to plain text editor
Darn it. Thanks for the info. Maybe next time!
I had to explain Prison Abs to my gf. She was convinced that I made them up...
Who was the original prison abs? Was it Marvin Robinson?
Are you trying to make this about his physical appearance, flysociety3?
I'm highly offended by this and demand an apology. How cruel and insensitive to all the viewers of MGoBlog out there.
Yes haha... that is exactly what i'm trying to do.
Yeah, I mean, much was made of his dedication to transforming his body - I think he is on quite a respected daily regemin, allowing him to lose a ton of weight once he decided to be a RB. So yes - it's possible he may not "look" as good on film as others, but I want a guy with that kind of attitude playing for Michigan.
To be honest I agree with your post. I really hope he commits, but I don't feel like he is the absolute stud that I would expect from the nations best RB
I'm not an expert on these matters, but I'm pretty sure recruiting services don't just use highlight reels for their evaluations of players; otherwise, everybody would be a 5* (except for Ryan Potter... he'd be a 6*).
A) You HAVE a DG question. You don't "got" a DG question.
B) You watched a youtube video a high schooler made. Those who are paid to evaluate high school players have seen DG in person and evaluated him as a high level, blue chip player. He has scholorship offers to play football at nearly everywher ein the country. Your opinion genuinely means absolutely nothing at all.
I like how you corrected my english but couldn't comprehend english. It's obviously just a 10 minute highlight tape and I said clearly I'm not saying he won't be good. I'm just asking if other were unimpressed by the actual tape.
Are you watching his senior tape? If not watch the junior tape then watch the senior tape and you will see a difference.
you don't see 3 consecutiv posts from accounts created in 2008 very often
you don't see a comment about it very often, either.
Are your doubts football-related or cinematography-related? Cause if you're saying the video itself is unimpressive, like with angles and lighting and stuff, then this is a terrible thread.
On the other hand, if your concerns are that the film is representative of a kid who is not worthy of his ranking, then I'll trust basically every paid professional who has evaluated the kid in person, and the coach of every school with a mascot and/or a vowel in its name, all of whom offered him a scholarship.
How can you not be impressed by his tape?
So you watched the youtube film and thought to yourself "Man this is bad. I am going to start a thread on MGoBlog to see if other people think this is bad too. I don't quite believe my own opinion on this and must get some other opinions to find out if I am a completely stupid about this tape." ??
If so, great post man. Sweet thoughts and things.
Did someone piss directly in your cornflakes, or just spatter some on the side? I know the internet helps some people feel tough, and helps other people ask dumb questions, but sheeesh..... go easy. We're all Wolverines here... well mostly.
''I'm not questioning the scouting of him,''
Clearly you are.
Glad you're still here to neg all my posts Gordie. I'm not questioning the scouting of him. I'm questioning my viewing and trying to figure out what I'm missing or if others agree. Highlight tapes are not good scouting tools. Especially for someone not that flashy.
His tape isn't a magic eye poster. There aren't hidden touchdowns or rocket ships or anything. Scouting is an inexact science, so if you aren't good at breaking down film, then you're probably stuck relying on other peoples' evaluations. And the vast majority of people who have analyzed this kid say, "very much good."
You are a funny guy Ziffy. I have reminders set 3 times a day to see if you've posted, just so I can get my neg gun out.
you might need "green" glasses
I have no problem with you saying this, just because I think there is way to much put into all high school player rankings. I dare someone to bring up their post from 4 years ago where they say Will Cambel would only manage to crack the starting line up and be mediocre by his Sr. year. How about those people who were more upset at losing Shavoderick Beaver than gaining Denard?
Sure, overall its more likely a higher rated player will do good, but these are 18 year olds playing high school. Some kids work harder, some have growth spurts, some were just over rated. Can't ever tell for sure.
Except there has been high praise of Green's work ethic as well.
You're totally missing the point man.
There can be unlimited amounts of praise about high school kids. At the end of the day, that doesn't mean anything (well, something, just not as much as people like to put into it).
Here's an activity: Go to rivals, or your other favorite rating site. Go back like 6 years. Look at the top recruits either in the country, or at Michigan. I guarantee you will see names of kids who were rated in the top 5/10/20/50 in the country, played at every high school all star game, people claimed was the next [insert NFL'er at his position who played at school he committed] and yet today you couldn't tell me if they played 1 snap in college. Why? Just start googling the names. Some maybe got injured, some might have got into off the field touble, but a lot also ended up transfering to a smaller school, or ended having a very marginal career and are lucky to be drafted late or make it as a free agent.
The opposite is even interesting. Look up guys in the NFL now. You'll see 3 star recruits that you assumed would be a bench warmer who might get in his redshirt sr. year.
I have no real opinion on if D. Green will be good or not, but since you hit my wheel house I had to respond. After watching the Army game I posted I thought W. Campbell would be a disappointment, I got crushed for it, I responded back, it got ugly, I think I mentioned Nazi Germany in one response and the whole thing melted down and got taken off the board. I wasn't proud of that whole thing, but in the end I was right on that.
"because I think there is way to[o] much put into all high school player rankings."
That is part of the reason why I do not follow recruiting at all. I try to trust that our coaches know what they are doing, and can turn their recruits into winners.
The other reason I don't follow recruiting is that a lot of it is just downright creepy. People are on here (and everywhere) posting every tweet, facebook post, or other statement by some high school kid.
Yet you still opened and commented on a thread that was...wait for it.....about recruiting....smh
All I saw was a few on Will Campbell
...the same thoughts. I find Deveon Smith's tape far more impressive but I am willing to defer to the experts on this and if they say Green is the top RB in the land, I want him in the class.
Green plays harder competition than Smith.
Highlight mixtapes are the most reliable way to analyze a player's abilities. That's why I'm hoping Michigan takes a good look at this kid:
Oh the hype on this kid was amazing....big time flop!
... while he didn't live up to the hype, he's turned in a respectable career as a WR at Rice. Also, I think calling someone a flop because he suffered 1 or 2 concussions in his one season at Michigan is harsh.
Sorry, by that I meant we had such high hopes for him but he never had an impact at Michigan. Disappointment would have been a better choice of words.
McGuffie wasn't a flop. He was just Exhibit A for the proposition that "wow, that guy does amazing things in that highlight reel" and "that guy is exactly what we need" are two very different propositions.
because of family issues?
became the first player to ever have 1000+ yds both rushing and receiving in Rice history, which is a pretty damn long history. Kid has done well for himself.
Used too early: should have redshirted to get stronger & to get used to michigan/college life.
always home sick.
Used incorrectly: horrible o-line meant he was repeatedly tasked with running out of form, breaking takles early, into piles, short yardage etc.
He would have worked out much better as a year 3 or 4 RR recruit, or even a specialized Hoke recruit with the rght packages after a red shirt year and lot's o love.
Run free Samwise!
I included examples of Rawls and Hopkins to illustrate the fact I'm not saying the tape proves he will be good or not. I realize a mixtape does not prove much. I was wondering if others were sitting at the computers and thinking the same thing I was. Based on the responses it appears I was not alone.
Damn good tape.
What gets me excited about him is the improvements he has made. I think they said sophomore year he was a 5'8" 260 lb offensive lineman. Junior year, he turns into a chizzled running back with decent highlights. Senior year, he turns into an even chizzled-er running back with a much more impressive tape. Now imagine that work ethic with our coaching staff and the o-line we are building.
Seemed to get a lot of love due to his recent UA practice and game performance, so there's another nugget of positive info against good competition. I personally liked hearing that he is a monster workout madman and overall hard worker. But every recruit is an enigma wrapped in a mystery until they get on campus, practice, and perform.
Green played in the Army game not the UA game.
This kid was the #1 one back on a team full of great backs on the East squad of the AA game. He is an absolute beast and plays against the highest level of competition there is. His work ethic will only make him better. Don't fool yourself into thinking that this kid is "not that great" for the chance we do not land him.
This. I was skeptical too, but the AAA week is what changed my tune. When compared to the top talent in the country, he was still the guy who stood out.
Green started the game, but the other guy on his team (Derrick Henry) had a better game.
Which means absolutely nothing based on the limited amount of plays between the two of them.
Fine. It's a limited number of plays.
Let's go ahead and forget everything we saw in the Army Bowl, then.
Please don't turn around and tell me that Dymonte Thomas or Jaylon Smith or James Quick looked good in the game, because it was a small sample size.
Did he though? Henry had 53 yards on 10 carries. I'm probably inflating Green's numbers because I like the kid, but I counted around 53 on 9 carries. Even if I pumped him up by a few yards and he had 50 on 9 carries, he still had a better YPC average than Henry and broke off some better (longer) runs (IMO).
I believe it was 49 on 8 carries
Green: 8 carries, 49 yards, long of 23
Henry: 10 carries, 53 yards, 1 touchdown, 1 two-point conversion, long of 11
Yes, I think Henry had a better game. Points matter, and both of them had pretty good yards per carry.
Must have been a flag on one of his runs then, because he definately had 9 carries on the cut up over at MGovideo.
I get what you're saying but it's hard to say a guy had a better game because he happened to get a couple goalline carries that the other guy didn't.
Okay, but why was Henry in the game instead of Green? Maybe the coaches trusted Henry more to get the ball in the end zone. And maybe Green started, but Henry got more carries.
And if your main argument is about yards per carry, then Henry's yards per carry would be higher if he DIDN'T get goal line carries. So in your estimation, you're downgrading Henry for only being able to get 1 or 2 yards on that touchdown run.
Maybe because Henry is 6'3'' and 240 lbs
I'm not downgrading anyone. I'm simply saying I don't think it's cut and dried that Henry had the better game. You made it out like Henry definately had a better game, I don't think it's that easy.
And if you're going to use speculation about what coaches may have thought, I'm not sure how to even have a discussion. Maybe Green tweaked his ankle a bit on his second run and the coaches didn't think he was 100%. Maybe a shadowy Illuminati figure tapped them on the shoulder and said one word, "no," in a terrifying whisper as the coaches motioned for Green to go in. Maybe he travelled back in time to fist fight Andrew Jackson.
And I'd still like to know where that extra carry went.
On a side note, does anyone else read a good percentage of Magnus' posts in a surly, angry voice? I don't know why, but I swear 90% of your posts come across like you're sneering at your monitor as you write them.
It's clearly just my opinion that Henry had a better game.
And there are plenty of people on here who are angrier than me.
On a side note, does anyone else read a good percentage of Magnus' posts in a surly, angry voice? I don't know why, but I swear 90% of your posts come across like you're sneering at your monitor as you write them.
It's just Magnus being Magnus. If Robert Nkemdiche and Da'shawn Hand committed to Michigan, Magnus would shrug and say "Eh, I like Clowney more." Just part of Magnus' charm.
Seriously. I mean, who wants to pronounce "Nkemdiche" for the next three to five years? Not me. "Clowney" is so much easier.
If you were as fat as Magnus you'd be surly too.
Gotta love the personal insults on message boards from complete strangers.
I have been similarly not blown away by the highlights. He's not Dillon Baxter (who, flameout or not, was a damn exciting h.s. player). However, a friend of mine watched a whole game of Green's and said that he's the type of back who wears you down over the course of a game, so I don't think his highlights do him justice.
That's a solid comment. Anyone looking at strickly a highlight reel is an amateur.
So... like... Magnus?
So... like... pretty much everyone who isn't paid to scout players?
So... like... Magnus?
a bigger version of Monte Ball.
Faster too...and better at reading blocks
Derrick Green flashes acceleration and speed in his video but it is hard to see. For example, when denard runs the ball, 50% of the time he is not going full speed since he is waiting for his blocks to develope. That is why you don't see much in Green's highlight video. Also, his competition is better than Smith's, as much as I like watching Smith's tape.
EDIT: his senior tape is a lot better than his junior
I watched a few of his games this year, seeing that I live in Richmond, VA. Many of the guys who have been around the city their entire lives aren't that impressed with him, but some of that may just be coming from all of the hype that he's been getting. They have a very stacked high school team considering the area, yet he was really the only option they had. Their coaches aren't very good at playcalling (think Mike DeBord) so their offense consists of 1st down: Green right. 2nd down: Green left. He has an offensive line that is dominant in the league as well which always helps the run game. IIRC he had one terrible game and it was the only team that keyed on him the entire game successfully, and had the talent to do so. He ran for something like 70 yards. The people in the area who follow (ie the grown men who go to all of their alma maters HS games) say he isn't very fast and doesn't have a lot of wiggle, but is a tough runner between the tackles. TBH that's what I've seen while watching his tape, so I am a little more excited about Smith.
As long as you can get us a De'Shawn Hand Commit then I will respect your opinion!
Isn't very fast and doesn't have a lot of wiggle. Isn't that the exact same criticism of smith? That's probably the most interesting part about DG recruitment for me; he seems like a very similar player to smith but is more physically developed. Regardless, having both gives us a chance at having a better shot of developing an elite back.
His senior video shows much improvement from his junior film:
Might as well post it since everyone is referring to it, right?
Maybe the confusion is in him not looking like a home run threat from burning speed. What I like about what I see is him breaking (good-form) tackles, churning his legs to move piles, hitting holes and getting something rather than waiting for the seas to part, and making people miss in the backfield.
Honestly, I'd prefer a guy who hits singles and doubles over a guy who's swinging for the fences every time he gets the ball. Just get the 1-3 yards that the line gives you plus whatever you can make after contact instead of searching for a way to get Denard-level yardage. He seems like a smart player, which is something I would always prefer over raw talent.
For those looking for a more highlighty highlight reel, watch this video, but only watch at 2:15, 2:25, 3:30, 3:50, 4:35, 5:10, 5:45, 5:55, 6:30, 7:35, 7:50, 9:45, and 11:10.
Just because a video contains a few turns-two-yards-into-seven carries doesn't mean the kid is overrated. For a coach evaluating film, a clip showing that a guy knows when to cut it up inside and when to bounce it outside is probably more valuable than a "by how much did he outrun the 5'8" high school safety?" clip.
Throw some giant shoulder pads on the kid and he's very similar.
Short, measured, balanced stride with good vision, power, speed. Breaks tackles. Me Likey.
Funny but I thought the same thing about both Dunn and Green. This leads me to realize I'm expecting to see a Barry Sanders-like elusiveness in highlights. If you watch Jeremy Gallon's high school highlights, they'll be far more to your liking/expectation.
Have faith in the analsyses by the coaches, as they see the players up close.
Obvious Fred Jackson inflated comparison aside, I think his running style is similar to Matt Forte or Frank Gore. He has power, good feet, and can catch out of the backfield. Perfect for our offense.
He's not going to stop and start wow you like Reggie Bush, but it seems like a 220-lb back that's all shoulders and thighs that can hit the hole with speed is exactly what we need.
Thomas Rawls has already kind of shown us what a heavy back will do when you start getting fancy at the line of scrimmage.
Scout and TTB both list his ability to catch out of the backfield as an area needing improvement. (ESPN was more positive, calling it "more than adequate")
Also, I'm not sure what you are trying to say about Thomas Rawls.
Rawls is a power back. He shouldn't be doing the "bounce, bounce , bounce to the outside" of a speed back like he did often this year. Part of this is understanding (subconsciously?) that you are no longer the fastest dude on the field in college.
Thanks, that makes sense. I didn't read it that way the first time.
I've said this before, but I think Green is only going to turn out to be the #1 back to come out of this class if he goes to a place where the offensive line can blow holes open for him - like an Alabama, a Wisconsin, or (I hope) a Michigan. He's not the type of back who can create yards for himself if there aren't any holes.
If Michigan puts together an offensive line like Wisconsin's recent vintage, Green might be a Montee Ball type of performer.
If Michigan's offensive line continues to perform like the 2012 version, then he will just be a slightly better version of Thomas Rawls.
Magnus I looked to your site to see your eval before I posted this thread, but it appears you only give your numbers to commits. You have a number in mind for Green?
I understand your comments on Green, but the #1 back doesn't need a line. I'm a big believer in the thought that stacked boxes and offensive lines mean much more to RB production than talent, but the #1 guy in any class should shine regardless of system and talent around him. His production could vary greatly but his greatness should stand out regardless of line.
I only give numbers to guys who commit.
I agree, which is why I've said numerous times that I don't think Green is the most talented back in the country.
Soooo, he's the next Monte Ball, but bigger???? I'll take it.
Everybody's highlight tapes look good. I'm pretty sure that's why they are called "highlight tapes."
Except for a few of those on the board who see things through a coach's eye, we have no idea how good someone really is, or how they "predict" at the college level, until they actually get there. It's fun to specuate, though.
In the AA game he had like 53 yards on 9 carries for a nice little 5.9 YPC average against the best competition he's likely faced to date. Showed good burst through the whole, ran with some power, broke off a few long runs. He's not a guy that's going to wow you with great moves. He's a one cut and go downhill runner. I have no idea if he's he's going to be any good or not, but I'll trust this coaching staff, all the other coaching staffs, and the evaluators.
The guy he reminds me of is Jamal Lewis. He's got those same short choppy steps that are good for wading through the trash at the line.
Thread jack, because I need to vent. I like listening to 97.1 most of the time, but today's topic with Voldemort is really pissing me off.
Agreed. He's not nearly as impressive as the RB in the AT&T commercial doing the backflip. Too bad Stoops beat us to him.
When you watch running back film, you all expect to see jukes, cuts on a dime and things of that nature. This is a north south runner with great feet who isn't going to be brought down by the first tackler. I see a kid who follows his blocks well, and gets up field quickly. The explosion he showed at the AA game against top flight kids was enough for me.
I looked over Green's tape. What people have to realize is the comptition he's playing against. The teams he is playing against are bigger and more athletic than other recruit's tape. For instance go look at 2015 target Damien Harris' tape. Dude looks like a man playing against boys. Not taking anything away from his abilities (he's a stud) but he should stand out playing against that level of competition. IMO, Green is a quality run between the tackles back.
The competition is better than SOME other running backs, but not necessarily all of them. Richmond puts out some decent football talent, but it's not Florida or Texas or California.
Virginia puts out some decent guys, but a lot of it comes from the Tidewater area around Newport News, Chesapeake, Virginia Beach, etc. Richmond isn't the top talent-producing area in the state, although a few quality guys have come from there in recent years (Tim Harris, Brandon Minor, Curtis Grant, etc.).
What is the topic on 97.1 you speak of? What is Mikey spewing today?
Hating on Lewan.
Without turing it on it's probably going something like this, " Michigan basketball hasn't played anybody, I mean come on Pitt...(fart noise), West Virginia (fart noise) and NCSU (burp)." Then Terry will come in and say, "Come on now bud why aren't we talking about the problems in Detroit on a sports radio statio, this is preposterous." Then Dery will attempt to calm them down with soothing talks of the Cleveland Indians......the end. Sports radio in metro Detroit is just the worst.
You can always play the Matt Dery drinking game. Take a shot every time he says "you're right, Mike" or "you're absolutely right, Mike".
What's your Derrick Green question?
Don't ask. I had too much time and tried this just for fun. Here is my breakdown of Derrick Green. I also did an amateur breakdown on DeVeon Smith, Ty Isaac, Thomas Rawls, and Kevin Grady. If anybody, for some reason, wants more, I might post it.
- Number one is he has bad balance and therefore lacks any kind of lateral agility
- That can be partially explained by his high pad level.
- Another separate weakness is his lack of vision
- Runs with authority
- Hits the hole hard and fast
- Has good straight line burst
- Does have a good power base, not entirely sure if he will put it to good use every time
Verdict: Hugely dependent upon a great O-line, he fits well with Michigan's philosophy of overpowering Ds
Metaphor: Wrecking ball. Or punch in the mouth. Mainly concerned with hitting you with power.
The ESPN scouting report(insider) also mentions that he just has to keep his pad level low and he'd be fine. And I also saw he was better in that aspect in his senior film. To me, he's not even a one-cut-and-go runner. Ty Isaac is. Derrick Green is more like a no-cut-and-go runner.
I agree, for the little it's worth.
My theory is that Green's raw size/speed numbers and his impressive burst are making everyone excited about him, even though he's got a ways to go as a runner.. Most of all, his balance, as you note, is a weakness. Looks like something he improved in his senior film, but it's a downright liability in the junior year stuff. He hits people hard, but doesn't seem to bounce off them or push a pile very well - something that is borne out in the AA game. Just kind of rams into people and falls, though usually falls forward, I guess. He can outrun people in the open field, and he's a big boy, but I think people expecting him to come in and look like an All-B1G type back from day one are going to be disappointed. Maybe with some time. I honestly think Smith might be a better back, especially early on in their careers.
Also, as for the A-Train comparisons elsewhere: he always had trouble when people went at his legs, too, but I think he broke arm tackles better than Green appears to.
I kind of agree that nothing really jumps out about him, but there must be something there for multiple services to have him highly rated. What is a little weird to me is that for the #1 RB there isn't alot of hype surrounding him like there is most #1 position players. However I think the combo of him and D. Smith could be deadly.
I know. I was expecting someone to say "HELLO!" as he flipped over a DB. And then for Bob Stoops to come walking up like a dope and say hello in a rapey voice.
His highlight tape is pretty filthy. I'm guessing that you're not that impressed because you're used to seeing Rawls and Hopkins run all over pathetic competition. Don't get me wrong--I think Rawls' tape is very impressive, and I still believe he could be our starting RB next year...
...but Green breaks loads of tackles in the reel, and breaks off some long runs where he outruns safeties and corners. And he's not playing low level talent--those kids are big, strong, fast kids he's up against. Not every run is a TD, but when I compare his tape to Rawls, Green is better, and I'll give you some comparisons:
- Green does a great job of FINDING the hole and getting upfield through the path of least resistance. Rawls runs where the play tells him to go, breaks the tackle of a tiny LB, and then outruns a pathetic defense. Green's vision seems far superior to Rawls, who spends most of his tape just running straight ahead. Look at how often Green moves laterally, how we waits for his blocks, and how he finds seams in the defense. Rawls just steams forward.
- Green does have very good speed. Look at the play that's snapped at 1:11. While it's not a TD, he takes a pitch and beats the defense to the outside. Notice the safety that attacks down and ends-up behind Green...that was a bad angle, but that's a fast safety who is used to making plays with that speed. Rawls is the fastest guy on the field every play...which, if you've seen him play in the NCAA, should raise red flags about his competition in his reel.
- Green's tackle-breaking is more subtle than Rawls. Rather than pinballing (running into players and bouncing off or knocking them over) Green frequently makes subtle lateral movements so that tacklers are sliding off of him or missing arm tackles. Again, Rawls pounded his HS competition, but that won't happen often in D1 football (unless you're playing Purdue).
- Green is MUCH bigger than Rawls. Rawls is 5-10, Green is 6-2. They have a similar build, but Green is more toned and more powerful. And I think he's just as fast, if not faster. Watch the snap at 2:00--again, Green outruns the entire defense to the sideline.
- Rawls tends to run towards the open space; Green is comfortable staying in tighter spaces. This has proven true in Rawls' career at Michigan--he bounces outside too early because he sees green. In HS, that equalled in TDs. In the B1G, that equals 2 yard gains that should have been 4 yard gains. Look at the snap at 2:58 on Green's tape. That run is more impressive than many of his TD runs. The blocking is okay but the safety fills the running lane well; Green cuts behind a block and turns it into a gain.
I could go on, but the point is that Green spent his HS career doing the things that college backs need to be able to do, and Rawls spent his HS career running and over and around lesser competition. As a result, Rawls is having to learn to play the game a different way; Green will be able to play the same way and be successful. Both have impressive physical tools. Green is a more polished back that's played tougher competition. Also, I wouldn't discount the intangibles--clearly Green is known as a hard-worker and leader (he was picked as Captain of his Army AA team) and I think that gets packed into his evaluation.
All that said, I think Green will need some good blocking to be a star, and he should get it at Michigan. Ty Isaac, IMO, can create more yards without help, but isn't going to move the pile.
Fantastic breakdown. Thanks. Kevin Grady, being the last top 25, solidly built running back that michigan signed is the name that keeps popping into my head when i read about Green. This makes me feel better.
Rawls's highlight tape was impressive because of all the big runs, but I still had questions about his ability.
I was not impressed by Stephen Hopkins's high school film. It was pretty boring.
3:30 into his senior film says it all http://michigan.247sports.com/Article/New-senior-highlights-of-2013-Mich...
Ziff, will you ever learn?
And Derrick Green plays in a garbage district / division. They they play Godwin, John Marshall, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Freeman etc. These are historically sorry teams. These are teams that good teams schedule for their homecoming games. I went to Varina class of 05 went to school with B Minor class of 06. When Hermitage played Varina he simply only got the yards that his OL gave him. He carried te ball 33 times for 114 yrds. There were plenty of times when he was one on one with the safety and he went down. The safety for Varina is 5'9 165.
My suggestion to you if you seriously think Rawls and Hopkins have better tapes is to never start a recruiting evaluation site cause neither of them is even in the same league as Derrick Green. Rawls is the most overhyped back I have ever seen at Michigan on message boards and Hopkins had what 10 career carries?
Who has a better tape. I'm jus debunking the theory that Green plays against good competition. Look at the records of the teams hermitage played against. And a lot of ppl don't even think he's the best RB in VA. That boy from LC Bird balled out this year and his team beat Hermitage in the playoffs
Nobody's saying that the teams he's playing against are #1 in the country. It has to do with the kids he's playing against. The linemen and linebackers aren't 5'8", 160 lb. hicks from the middle of nowhere in northern Michigan. And you say Hermitage doesn't play good teams, but they did play Varina (which went 10-3)...and Hermitage won.
Doesn't validate your schedule. The colonial district is trash. The capital district which Varina is in had 6 teams with a stronger SOS than hermitage. Herm won in OT against Varina in which Derrick Green didn't look like the num 1 back in the nation. Check the highlights of that game. U might see 3 good runs from Green. And in OT the ball starts out on the 10 yard line... When Herm got the ball in OT they ran the ball 3 times and green didn't carry the ball once.
From the colonial district